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Old Posted Jan 22, 2026, 3:28 AM
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Matthew Luloff DUI court case

In case somebody isn't aware of this ongoing matter.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...-out-9.7054488

I feel like hiring Lawrence Greenspon is an automatic admission of guilt.

Guy knows how to dance though.

Luloff's lawyer Lawrence Greenspon, assisted by Jadden Howell, argued in court Wednesday that Ottawa police breached Luloff's Charter rights by:



-Entering his property without a warrant at a time when the alleged offence was not continuing.

-Telling Luloff they were investigating a traffic complaint when, as the defence contends, it was an impaired driving investigation from the start.

-Keeping him under detention by standing in his way and parking in a manner that blocked the driveway.

-Conducting a warrantless search of the fanny pack/satchel Luloff was seen placing on the ground, which contained the keys to the Jeep.

-Delaying his rights to counsel while he was being detained and after he was arrested for about three minutes.

-Forgetting to read Luloff the routine demand for a breath sample until he had already been transported to the cellblock.




As a result, they want everything Luloff told the breath technician, as well as the results she pulled, tossed out.

"In those circumstances a reasonable person, properly informed of the rights and freedoms of the individual and the administration of justice in this country ... would have no trouble, no trouble at all, if Your Honour were to exclude the evidence that we say was obtained as a result of at least some if not all of these breaches," Greenspon told court.




Now I'm not a lawyer but I don't think you need a warrant to search a person who's being placed under arrest. If I use a fanny pack instead of my pocket that absolves me of carrying a pistol?
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In case somebody isn't aware of this ongoing matter.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...-out-9.7054488

I feel like hiring Lawrence Greenspon is an automatic admission of guilt.

Guy knows how to dance though.
20-25 years ago or so, Greenspon was on an opposing soccer team to me and he was a snake of a player then.
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-Entering his property without a warrant at a time when the alleged offence was not continuing.
Did they enter his property or arrest him in the driveway?

-Telling Luloff they were investigating a traffic complaint when, as the defence contends, it was an impaired driving investigation from the start.
Police was called because of erratic driving, not for impaired driving.

-Keeping him under detention by standing in his way and parking in a manner that blocked the driveway.
I don't think anything in the Charter or Rights protects your driveway from being blocked. Almost sounds like he thinks not letting him escape was an attack on his rights.

-Conducting a warrantless search of the fanny pack/satchel Luloff was seen placing on the ground, which contained the keys to the Jeep.
If they asked and he let them, I think it's fine, but I don't have the full context.

-Delaying his rights to counsel while he was being detained and after he was arrested for about three minutes.
Three minutes? Really? Oh, the humanity!

-Forgetting to read Luloff the routine demand for a breath sample until he had already been transported to the cellblock.
Doesn't change the fact he drove drunk

Typical right wing "freedom" jackass. I hope he at least has the sense to not run again, and if he does, I hope the residents of Orleans vote him out.
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Trial Decision is this Friday, February 27, 2026 at the Ottawa Courthouse.
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City councillor Matthew Luloff found guilty of impaired driving charges
Orléans politician fined a total of $4,550, can't drive for one year

Kristy Nease · CBC News · Posted: Mar 05, 2026 10:55 AM EST | Last Updated: 3 minutes ago


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...sion-9.7114311
On the upside... maybe he'll be forced take public transit and report to council how bad it really is
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On the upside... maybe he'll be forced take public transit and report to council how bad it really is
There is also a new law.

As of 2020 ish you no longer automatically get your DL back after 1 year with no conditions. You are bound to an ignition interlock until you can goto a doctor and have them run a full patch of bloodwork on you. They are more or less testing your liver enzymes to confirm you aren't a full on heavy drinker. I cant say whether or not I agree with that on a constitutional level but that's what it is.

I hope you have a family doctor too because Appletree won't do it. At least they wouldn't do it for me. The lady said.. no we don't do that here. The phrasing on the form implies that your family doctor has known you for years and you have a history. The form is more than just bloodwork, it's like 2 pages of questions that the doctor has to write out answers about my general status and well being etc.
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This jagoff was on the radio saying he 'takes full responsibility'.

Really ahole? Why you in court then trying to skirt your responsibility.

His lawyer says they may still appeal.

Full responsibility seems to be hard for him to comprehend. Like sobriety.
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This jagoff was on the radio saying he 'takes full responsibility'.

Really ahole? Why you in court then trying to skirt your responsibility.

His lawyer says they may still appeal.

Full responsibility seems to be hard for him to comprehend. Like sobriety.
Yeah, not impressed. If he didn't plead guilty from the get-go, he never took responsibility.

An appeal would likely ruin his political career (if it isn't already). He should not run for re-election and take some time to work on himself, though I'm sure he'll run anyway.
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