[Burnaby] McCarthy Plaza | 258.4m | 72fl| Proposed

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

McCARTHY PLAZA - 5000 KINGSWAY, Burnaby

Metrotown Downtown Plan
Daily Hive Article
Storeys Article
Vancouver Market Article

Project Stats

• 3 Phase Plan
• 3.83 Acres of land
• 3 Towers
• - Phase 1 tower; tallest west of Toronto (847.80ft)
• rooftop observation deck
• 469 Residential Units
• - 169 Strata
• - 170 Market rental
• - 130 Non-market rental
• 938 parking spaces
• 1,264 bicycle parking spaces
• 12 floors of commercial podium

Source: City of Burnaby Document (McCarthy Properties)

Density Summary


Site Plan


Phasing Plan


Renderings

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

some conversations from the Burnaby Updates thread. i tried to capture most of the conversation that happened there.

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Inside Metrotown's Tallest Proposed Tower: The 72-Storey McCarthy Plaza

Dialog is the architect.







https://storeys.com/mccarthy-plaza-kingsway-metrotown-burnaby/

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

It's nuts how it's towering (..excuse the pun) over Concord's Grand Tower across the street in that image, when that Concord's by itself is going to dwarf everything else for miles when its complete, given its elevated location in Metrotown.

It's just a pity it's Dialog that's handling the design.

It always seems to be the "safe" architects that get selected to do these landmark tower projects.

By the end of the next decade we could have as many as four to five 65-75 storey tall towers along that stretch of Kingsway between this tower, Concord's Grand Tower, Anthem's Citizen down the road, and Keltic's proposed 70 storey tower at the Esso station on Kingsway and Wilingdon.

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

A few more images from the proposed (soon-to-be) western Canada's tallest tower at 5000 Kingsway in Metrotown.

These ones highlight the public amenity features such as the observation deck at the tower rooftop - insipired by the likes of the Rock Observatory at 30 Rockefeller Plaza tower in New York City, and the Edge observation deck at Hudsons Yard in New York City (both also shown below), along with a podium level indoor basketball court they hope will be usable bythe public like their art collection gallery.


I didn't realize before that this tower's geodetic height 1,279 ft, thanks to it's Metrotown location will actually be higher than Burnaby mountain (1,214-ft-tall), meaning it's rooftop observation deck will practically be at eye-level with SFU's Burnaby Mountain campus buildings.

That's just nuts!









The Rock Observatory at 30 Rockefeller Plaza tower in New York City.


the Edge observation deck at Hudsons Yard in New York City






Source :

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/mcarthy-...n-5000-kingsway-burnaby-observation-deck

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Rezoning application:

https://burnaby.widen.net/s/8vrlwzrk88/development-plan-rez-24-16

More ground level renderings too.

6 elevators, only 3 go to the very top. Surprised they don't have more penthouses.

Originally Posted by a13

this design is awesome. wonder what will become of 4980 Kingsway though given this building wraps around half of it

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

The overall masterplan concept submitted earlier suggests that it will be redeveloped into a highrise tower in a proposed phase 3.

But as you can see from the timelines proposed, that's waaaaaaaaaay down the road (75 years).

If they do stick to that timeline then in all likelihood no one reading this right now will be alive to see that happen

(....or phase 2 either)

Originally Posted by mcj

I can kind of believe the timelines considering it's a family controlled business, I'm sure though those extremely long timelines are probably just to soften potential opposition to a larger development and warm the city up to the first phase. No reason the timelines can't be brought forward when the right market conditions come along, which will need to happen if they intend to build that much office space over the next phases. (and of course they'll likely pivot on the office component if that market doesn't ever recover)

Originally Posted by officedweller

That's not very many, unless the offices at the base have different elevators.

Originally Posted by SpongeG

100 years for the 4th phase? yikes.

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Well we are lucky then that the first phase is the best one.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

its a shame they couldnt hit the 300m (super-tall) mark. it would have been really cool to get a super-tall skyscraper in Burnaby.

looking at the density chart, they could have done it as they aren't even close to maxing out the site potential. and they appear to have no height limit either.

but i love this tower, i love the art deco-esque of it. brings that manhattan feel, similar to how i like the 1444 Alberni development.

overall, big fan. only thing that is sad is the non-super-tall status when it might have been possible.

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

its a shame they couldnt hit the 300m (super-tall) mark. it would have been really cool to get a super-tall skyscraper in Burnaby.

looking at the density chart, they could have done it as they aren't even close to maxing out the site potential. and they appear to have no height limit either.

but i love this tower, i love the art deco-esque of it. brings that manhattan feel, similar to how i like the 1444 Alberni development.

overall, big fan. only thing that is sad is the non-super-tall status when it might have been possible.

That would be pretty cool, but this tower is already going be incredibly prominent. Metrotown is a similar elevation to the top of Little Mountain, so an almost 900' tower there is going to really standout. You'll probably be able to see it from most parts of the region.

[griswold]

City of Vancouver should take notes. Downtown needs something like this.

[Canadian 1]

Burnaby's Intense Race to the Sky is Making Edmonton and its Stantec Tower Sweat

The Current Tallest building in Western canada will be dethroned by a Suburb of Vancouver,

Metro Vancouver has like 83 downtowns

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

its a shame they couldnt hit the 300m (super-tall) mark. it would have been really cool to get a super-tall skyscraper in Burnaby.

looking at the density chart, they could have done it as they aren't even close to maxing out the site potential. and they appear to have no height limit either.

but i love this tower, i love the art deco-esque of it. brings that manhattan feel, similar to how i like the 1444 Alberni development.

overall, big fan. only thing that is sad is the non-super-tall status when it might have been possible.

I strongly believe that we will eventually see a true supertall (300m or over) not just in our lifetime, but I'd even predict we'll see one proposed within the next 10-15 years.

Consider the fact that as recently as 10 years ago, we didn't have any towers over 200m tall - with the Shangri-La being the king of the heap (for almost 2 decades now) at just under that 200m mark.

And yet in that 10 year time period we've had proposals and permit applications put through for 12 and counting now, with one just completed (Gilmore Place 2 - dethroning Shangri-La) and another currently under construction and due to take oer the crown when it tops out next year.
And within the next 10 years as these various proposals go through the permitting processes and their construction starts, none of the current reigning "tallest" will retain that status for any longer than 3-5 years before getting dethroned by the next tallest (as noted previously the current reigning tallest Gilmore Place 2 will likely be dethroned my Concord's Grand Tower next year, and then depending on when Pinnacle's Lougheed project get's their construction start (hopefully late this year), that reign likely may not be longer than 5 years).

I wouldn't even be surprised of the GVA gets it's first supertall tower in the normally maligned (in these parts anyway) Downtown of Vancouver where there are still many places that don't fall within the Viewcone tyranny of tower height restrictions that you could build such a tower.
Even though chances are that it will most likely happen in the 'burbs.

My money is on either Surrey or Metrotown.

[giallo]

Metrotown would seem the most likely, but my money is on Surrey.

[mcj]

Originally Posted by giallo

Metrotown would seem the most likely, but my money is on Surrey.

I have a vague recollection of a supertall in the early stages of proposal development for Surrey circa 2007/2008 prior to the real estate market crash.

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by mcj

I have a vague recollection of a supertall in the early stages of proposal development for Surrey circa 2007/2008 prior to the real estate market crash.

The Barazan tower. Seems like they got distracted with their Sasquatch Mountain projects instead.

[mcj]

Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

The Barazan tower. Seems like they got distracted with their Sasquatch Mountain projects instead.

Bingo! Thanks for that, here's the thread. Seems pretty similar to this proposal, hopefully the McCarthy's don't go buy a failing ski hill and distract themselves...

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

I strongly believe that we will eventually see a true supertall (300m or over) not just in our lifetime, but I'd even predict we'll see one proposed within the next 10-15 years.

My money is on either Surrey or Metrotown.

i do think we will as well. i do wish it was this project for a few, key reasons though.

• having an observation deck, few buildings have that around here. i doubt if we get a "billionaires row" type building, itll have that.
• the architecture of the tower. most buildings in this region are boring, uninteresting or just ugly. and i like art deco/manhattan style architecture. so this building having hit super tall, would have been awesome.

[Bcasey25raptor]

This proposal in Burnaby looks like it would fit in new york city as an art deco masterpiece. 100% on board, BILD IT

[jollyburger]

Nothing new but some comments from the developer.

As for next steps on the McCarthy tower, the immediate focus is getting the site rezoned, McCarthy said. "We're working on a timeline right now to try to get through all the rezoning of the site between now and June."

Asked about the current status of the market and launching such a bold project amid economic and presale uncertainty, McCarthy said they don't have any special insights.

"We don't know anything that the market doesn't know," he said. "Right now, it's a tough market, I think, particularly for pre-sale condos.

"We've planned this project over a number of years, so we're carrying forward with our vision. It's still a long road ahead before we'll be able to deliver this project, so we plan to pick the right moment in time when the market is ready to respond to something like our project.”

https://renx.ca/homegrown-burnaby-developer-proposes-72-storey-metrotown-tower

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

with that new proposal in downtown at 315m (1033ft), this being bumped up to 320m (1050ft) would be awesome. one can always dream

[jollyburger]

Was it 258.4m to the top floor or the crown?

EDIT: Found the diagram it's 258.4 to the top of the paraphet.