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Old Posted Jun 1, 2023, 4:43 PM
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360 Laurier Ave W [Office conversion] | 44m | 12f | U/C

CLV Group Development Inc. is proposing the adaptive reuse of an existing 11-storey commercial/office building located at 360 Laurier Avenue West. The 11-storey building (not including 1 storey mechanical penthouse) will remain on site and undergo a renovation to convert it into a residential building. The mechanical penthouse area is proposed to be enlarged for rooftop amenities bringing the height to 12 storeys. A new mechanical penthouse, improvements to the façade, streetscape and interior of the building are also proposed.

The conversion will consist of 139 residential units, 133 square metres (1,451 square feet) of commercial space in the form of a rental leasing office and a general retail space (. The unit mix will include studios, one (1) bedroom, one plus den (1.5), two (2) bedroom and two (2) plus den units. The objective for this proposal is to utilize as much of the existing building to make the project as sustainable as possible by reducing waste. The majority of the existing precast concrete panels will be maintained, lessening the architectural intervention while still adding subtle touches to add visual interest. As noted above, an additional level will be added which will strictly be used for amenity purposes. No residential units will be located on level 12. Amenities will be provided on the ground floor and rooftop level in the form of interior and exterior spaces.

The proposal will utilize the existing underground parking structure containing 59 vehicular parking spaces of which 13 will be used for visitor parking. The development will yield a total of 78 bicycle parking spaces.

Architect: Linebox Studio


Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...3-0055/details

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Old Posted Jun 1, 2023, 5:55 PM
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So it begins.
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Bring it on! More of this please
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2023, 11:53 AM
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In the planning rationale and Urban Design Brief document its says the following regarding the windows:

"Providing access to fresh air was an important feature for this project. The previous non-operable windows will be replaced with new energy efficient, operable windows. Additional openings will be created by punching out the precast panels where possible and infilling them with operable windows. Each window will require a guard. To avoid any obstructing visuals, the required guards will be made out of glass with minimal metal details."

Since when do you need a guard in front of a window? its not like these are balcony! Whats the purpose of this?
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In the planning rationale and Urban Design Brief document its says the following regarding the windows:

"Providing access to fresh air was an important feature for this project. The previous non-operable windows will be replaced with new energy efficient, operable windows. Additional openings will be created by punching out the precast panels where possible and infilling them with operable windows. Each window will require a guard. To avoid any obstructing visuals, the required guards will be made out of glass with minimal metal details."

Since when do you need a guard in front of a window? its not like these are balcony! Whats the purpose of this?
Uncertain. Some buildings such as student residences are legally obligated to provide restriction devices to prevent falls.
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If the window can open more than 100mm, it becomes an 'opening' that requires a guard, especially if it has a sill that is significantly less than typical guard height.

I picture this being like that scene in Sex in the City where the brash woman is smoking near the fully opened large window and accidentally falls out.

This would certainly be a unique configuration for Ottawa, and a potential unfortunate garbage/bug catcher.

On the other hand, if a window is floor-to-ceiling, it is required to be rated for load at a particular height so you don't actually run at the window and go right thru, which also happens. Usually its just a mid-height mullion, with tempered glass on the bottom section.

https://youtu.be/G-NZPXMoWqc

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In the planning rationale and Urban Design Brief document its says the following regarding the windows:

"Providing access to fresh air was an important feature for this project. The previous non-operable windows will be replaced with new energy efficient, operable windows. Additional openings will be created by punching out the precast panels where possible and infilling them with operable windows. Each window will require a guard. To avoid any obstructing visuals, the required guards will be made out of glass with minimal metal details."

Since when do you need a guard in front of a window? its not like these are balcony! Whats the purpose of this?
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If the window can open more than 100mm, it becomes an 'opening' that requires a guard, especially if it has a sill that is significantly less than typical guard height.

I picture this being like that scene in Sex in the City where the brash woman is smoking near the fully opened large window and accidentally falls out.

This would certainly be a unique configuration for Ottawa, and a potential unfortunate garbage/bug catcher.

On the other hand, if a window is floor-to-ceiling, it is required to be rated for load at a particular height so you don't actually run at the window and go right thru, which also happens. Usually its just a mid-height mullion, with tempered glass on the bottom section.

https://youtu.be/G-NZPXMoWqc
Also - the face of building is just right up against the edge of the sidewalk. So anything that did fall out would land directly on it, and could hit someone. Google streetview
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Also - the face of building is just right up against the edge of the sidewalk. So anything that did fall out would land directly on it, and could hit someone. Google streetview
I'm not sure that's a consideration that anyone really pays attention to.
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couple of things on this one

1. The building has a name - the Narono Building. It was designed by Ottawa's prolific brutalist architect George E Bemi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_E._Bemi)
Urbsite called this Bemi's first fully formed brutalist office building (http://urbsite.blogspot.com/2014/07/...ary-is-it.html)

2. This building has asbestos: https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/biens-...tosinv-eng.pdf

3. Linebox also did the TREBLA -> SLAYTE conversion, for Interrent (which is partially owned and managed by CLV). Expect this project to be very similar to that project. Link here: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=241475

4. This building sold for 24.5 in 2019: https://renx.ca/true-north-buys-anot...ffice-building
And then it was resold for 17.5 this May: https://obj.ca/true-north-reit-selling-narono/

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Has anything been posted about this office building conversion at 360 Laurier:




https://obj.ca/clv-group-to-convert-...-issue-emerges
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^^^^^^^
Yes-there is a thread on it.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=254907
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Skyline: What’s old is new in two recent developments

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August 10, 2023


--SNIP--



To sturdy precast concrete…

After completing the Slayte on Albert Street, the CLV Group has filed plans for an even more ambitious office-to-residential conversion in an uncompromisingly Brutalist block at 360 Laurier Avenue West near Kent.

The 12-storey building was designed in 1968 by G.E. Bemi and Associates, architects for Norano Holdings, and is among that architect’s most hard edged and best preserved concrete-clad office towers.

The conversion details? In its relatively compact footprint there would be 143 residential units, with a small amount of retail at grade. Amenity space is to be provided indoors on the ground floor plus rear yard, and on a newly built rooftop terrace. The development is intended to have 59 car-parking spaces in the existing underground garage, 13 of them for visitors, with secure parking for 78 bicycles in storage rooms.

Developers CLV are bravely working with an architectural style that is, at the very least, not universally admired. From the urban design brief by LineBox Studio: “The building envelope will remain largely untouched…The design will retain most of the precast concrete panels.” They are rather impressive, deeply coffered, subtly incised with grooves, certainly the Norano Building’s chief feature. “…And they will be cleaned or repaired where necessary.”

For fresh air the fixed windows are to be replaced with operating windows.

One change will see enhanced glazing on the ground floor to make the public areas in this yet-to-be-renamed apartment building more transparent and inviting from street level. This is a welcome alteration. Brutalism has its fans but inviting it is not.

https://centretownbuzz.com/2023/08/s...-developments/
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Update from InterRent's Q3 report. It refers to "full demolition"...? [Edit: I guess that just means demolishing whatever they need to in order to proceed with the conversion]

360 LAURIER
360 Laurier Ave W is an office conversion project located in downtown Ottawa, with 139 residential units and 1,736 sq ft of retail space across 11 storeys. The adaptive reuse project is currently in the site plan control process with minor variances approved by the City of Ottawa in October 2023. Full site plan approval is expected in Q4 2023, with preliminary investigative demolition currently underway. Full demolition is expected in Q1 2024 with reconstruction starting in Q2. The design team is nearing completion of design development and is working through construction drawings for tendering.
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Update from InterRent's Q3 report. It refers to "full demolition"...? [Edit: I guess that just means demolishing whatever they need to in order to proceed with the conversion]

360 LAURIER
360 Laurier Ave W is an office conversion project located in downtown Ottawa, with 139 residential units and 1,736 sq ft of retail space across 11 storeys. The adaptive reuse project is currently in the site plan control process with minor variances approved by the City of Ottawa in October 2023. Full site plan approval is expected in Q4 2023, with preliminary investigative demolition currently underway. Full demolition is expected in Q1 2024 with reconstruction starting in Q2. The design team is nearing completion of design development and is working through construction drawings for tendering.
Certainly they mean full demolition of what needs to be demolished, as opposed to the current exploratory demolition.
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According to CLV Group, the interior demolition of this office to residential conversion project is now 99% complete
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City and builders getting better at office conversions with each project, 360 Laurier architect says

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August 16, 2024 2:28 PM ET



https://obj.ca/city-builders-better-...ier-architect/
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