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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 2:27 AM
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222 Baseline Rd | 14m | 4f | Proposed

HP Urban Inc. is proposing a development at 222 Baseline Road consisting of a low-rise (4-storey), multi-unit, residential building with a total of 18 units, including a mix of one (1) and two (2) bedroom units. The building proposes an elevator, and an at-grade entrance for universal access. It will replace the existing detached dwelling on the subject property.

The proposed redevelopment of the lands includes no vehicular parking spaces. Eight (8) indoor bicycle parking spaces for tenants will be provided on the ground floor and an additional nine (9) spaces will be provided in the basement of the proposed development. The garbage and recycling facilities are provided on the ground floor with access to the street and through the interior of the building.

Architect: Varia Architecture


Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applications/D02-02-22-0111/details

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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 3:39 AM
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I have problems with no vehicle parking.

In these sort of developments I feel there should be 3 places, preferable one reserved for Communauto and the others for visitors and/or loading. There's no handy place for an Uber to wait for a pickup.

I sit in my building lobby (granted much larger) and watch a steady stream of deliveries. Where will repair people park? Where will home-care providers park? If the stated goal is age-in-place we need a spot for those making that happen to park. The fact there is an elevator in the building instead of a walkup makes me think the demographic is actually older people, and not young adults.

The views for some of the residents will be lovely but it will be a wasteland to live in. This is not a 15 minute walkable neighbourhood. Everything will be by bus or bike. It is over 2km to the Loblaws/Walmart for groceries, along wind-swept, shade-free Baseline. Much further to a library. No nearby entertainment and only a couple of restaurants. (Medical care, given the difficulty in getting a family doctor can no longer be considered part of a walkable neighbourhood, mine is 35km away and not on transit.)

BTW: I'm not impressed with the attention to detail on the drawings, either.

This development will be at Baseline ROAD and Lexington STREET.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 4:59 AM
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I have problems with no vehicle parking.

In these sort of developments I feel there should be 3 places, preferable one reserved for Communauto and the others for visitors and/or loading. There's no handy place for an Uber to wait for a pickup.

I sit in my building lobby (granted much larger) and watch a steady stream of deliveries. Where will repair people park? Where will home-care providers park? If the stated goal is age-in-place we need a spot for those making that happen to park. The fact there is an elevator in the building instead of a walkup makes me think the demographic is actually older people, and not young adults.

The views for some of the residents will be lovely but it will be a wasteland to live in. This is not a 15 minute walkable neighbourhood. Everything will be by bus or bike. It is over 2km to the Loblaws/Walmart for groceries, along wind-swept, shade-free Baseline. Much further to a library. No nearby entertainment and only a couple of restaurants. (Medical care, given the difficulty in getting a family doctor can no longer be considered part of a walkable neighbourhood, mine is 35km away and not on transit.)

BTW: I'm not impressed with the attention to detail on the drawings, either.

This development will be at Baseline ROAD and Lexington STREET.
The development includes a pickup/loading spot and there is available street parking in the neighbourhood behind if its really required.

The farm that creates the views also creates the windswept nature of baseline. As for shade eventually the buildings will provide that.

This is as close as ones going to get to a 15 minute neighbourhood without massive intensification of the area, and thats only going to happen if the city actually allows housing to be built. So how about a little less "no because" and a little more "yes &"....

Also, as for what kind of 15 min neighbourhood it really isn't that bad aslong as your not expecting Box store size retail in a community....

1. Housing of all types- Has minimal amounts, mostly low density, to which this and other projects will change slowly

2. Retail, Commercial, & health services - Farmer pick for a grocery store, Multiple plazas within walking distance. Mostly just missing a doctors office but thats not going to change anytime soon for any neighbourhood.

3. Public services - Tomlinson family foundation clubhouse, but really area not dense enough for much more as those services exist already just outside of that 15 minute circle

4. Schools - Multiple elementary schools nearby & a highschool, daycare just outside of 15 minutes

5. Parks and greenspace - the farm, fletcher wildlife garden, lexington park

6. sustainable mobility - BRT upgrade comes with bikelanes and POW has them already

As for the development, looks good to me, wish this would have been carbon copied up and down baseline instead of duplexes that have been built recently.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 2:38 PM
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never heard of this firm and there are some building code issues with the floor planning (no fire separation around the stairs, dead-end corridors longer than 6m) so i did a quick google and found this full explanation of the design process

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mid-rise-...?trackingId=sSYH8OCXGFEDSoMYvTRddA%3D%3D
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Seems like an excellent development for the area. Adds density without overwhelming the neighborhood. On the north side too, so little to no shadows.

This should be as of right for secondary corridors like Baseline and Blair.

Looks like there's a petition in favour of this one:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfD1A2-euPol1riHKlvkfSvIKvP7jW3F9w9JllT_FOLPZ7UuQ/viewform
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never heard of this firm and there are some building code issues with the floor planning (no fire separation around the stairs, dead-end corridors longer than 6m) so i did a quick google and found this full explanation of the design process

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mid-rise-...?trackingId=sSYH8OCXGFEDSoMYvTRddA%3D%3D
HP Urban? It's Peter Hume, former regional and city Councillor, and Planning Committee chair. He knows the ropes.
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HP Urban? It's Peter Hume, former regional and city Councillor, and Planning Committee chair. He knows the ropes.
i was talking about the architecture firm.

though these building code issues are something both architect and developer should know...
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Seems like an excellent development for the area.
Agreed. This looks great for where and what it is.
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i was talking about the architecture firm.

though these building code issues are something both architect and developer should know...
Ah ok. Ya, Varia Architecture... that's Cory Dubeau, apparently.

This isn't his first project, but almost, and probably the largest for this new company so far.
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Going to Planning next week. This one should pass pretty easily.
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