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Old Posted Oct 26, 2021, 8:13 PM
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Brookstreet Apartments [525 Legget Dr + 359 Terry Fox Dr] | 111m | 30f | U/C

525 Legget drive - Brookstreet Apartments - 31 Storey high rise apartment building with 256 units and a restaurant next to the existing Brookstreet Hotel in Kanata North.







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OK now this is getting silly - is everyone in this city looking to build a 30 story building anywhere and everywhere now?

Looks like a 1960s/1970s Hilton, Marriott or Westin...
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What an ugly foreground. Are there that many empty nesters who want to play golf (an activity) so much that they need to live next to the course. ?
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2021, 9:29 PM
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Wesley Cover International (Brookstreet Hotel) proposes a 30-storey apartment building with a restaurant on a new parcel to be created from 525 Legget Drive and 359 Terry Fox Drive immediately east of the existing Brookstreet Hotel and parking structure. It will be physically connected to and integrated with the Brookstreet Hotel. The new building will be primarily an apartment building but will include an extension to the existing Brookstreet Hotel ballroom on the second floor with a balcony overlooking the adjacent Marshes Golf Course and ponds, and a ground floor patio space adjacent to one of the ponds.

Primary access will be through a driveway from Terry Fox Drive over what is currently 359 Terry Fox Drive. The new parcel of land containing the apartment building and driveway will be severed via a separate application to the Committee of Adjustment. Two vehicular connections will be made from the apartment building to the existing parking structure at 525 Legget Drive. The parking structure will not be on the severed lot and will remain as part of 525 Legget Drive. The parking structure currently provides shared parking for the surrounding uses. A portion of the parking structure will be reconfigured to provide an additional 197 resident parking spaces (the total number of resident spaces is 307) and residents’ storage lockers. Access to the resident spaces will be controlled separate from the rest of the parking structure. Fifty two visitor and 36 restaurant parking spaces will be provided.

A 358m2 restaurant is proposed for the top floor of the apartment building that will be open to the public.


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OK now this is getting silly - is everyone in this city looking to build a 30 story building anywhere and everywhere now?

Looks like a 1960s/1970s Hilton, Marriott or Westin...
I quite like this proposal and see nothing wrong with a little height in a massive employment area. A+
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I quite like this proposal and see nothing wrong with a little height in a massive employment area. A+
The March rd. side of the building definitely leaves a little to be desired compared to the opposite face though. Hopefully they can come back with something a little more pleasing.
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I like it. I mostly like it because it's something different than the Commie Block Nouveau style that has taken over Ottawa. Just wait for the Kanata NIMBYS to come out against this one. 'I can see it off in the distance from deck in my backyard. I didn't move to Kanata to feel like I'm in Manhattan' 'It shades my...golf cart ..when I'm Golfing' 'Won't somebody think about the birds? This skyscraper will definitely affect migratory patterns' 'This will definitely create massive gridlock on March Road, we'll never be able to get home again'
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What an ugly foreground. Are there that many empty nesters who want to play golf (an activity) so much that they need to live next to the course. ?
The foreground is existing building (the former Newbridge Networks manufacturing building) and trees, which aren't part of the project. Below is it in Google Street View (odd how the rendering has smaller trees than what are there today).



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For fun, here is the "current" view from Legget (I had to go back to 2009 as the current view is blocked by the trees) compared to the rendering.



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Old Posted Oct 29, 2021, 5:06 PM
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Just wait for the Kanata NIMBYS to come out against this one. 'I can see it off in the distance from deck in my backyard. I didn't move to Kanata to feel like I'm in Manhattan' 'It shades my...golf cart ..when I'm Golfing' 'Won't somebody think about the birds? This skyscraper will definitely affect migratory patterns' 'This will definitely create massive gridlock on March Road, we'll never be able to get home again'
Given that the new apartments aren't much taller than the existing buildings and no one really lives nearby, I can't imagine there will be much objection, but then again, you never know.

I strongly suspect these will be primarily short term rental apartments for those working in the high-tech park.
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The March rd. side of the building definitely leaves a little to be desired compared to the opposite face though. Hopefully they can come back with something a little more pleasing.
By March Rd. view, I assume you mean the view from Legget Drive (1 block closer)? I don't really mind it, though they could add a few more windows (the new tower is in the red box).

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By March Rd. view, I assume you mean the view from Legget Drive (1 block closer)? I don't really mind it, though they could add a few more windows (the new tower is in the red box).

Yes, perhaps Leggett Dr.? Mostly referring to the two vertical blank strips. Seems odd to me but if they were to just build it now as shown I wouldn't put up a fuss.
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Yes, perhaps Leggett Dr.? Mostly referring to the two vertical blank strips. Seems odd to me but if they were to just build it now as shown I wouldn't put up a fuss.
Here is that same view as of July 2021. You would barely be able to see the new building (which is probably why they used an old image for the rendering), and the trees are only going to get bigger.

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I LOVE the idea of building an apartment tower here and having it connected to the Brookstreet complex. Hopefully there are plans for more down the road.

Design-wise, it looks great looking west from the pond (though perhaps a bit bulky!?), but looking northeast or south from either March Rd or Leggett leaves something to be desired.

This is just the first iteration of the design... let's see where this leads.
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Slight revisions and better renderings (Feb 2022)

The project will contain 253 rental dwelling units, interior and exterior amenity space on the ground floor, an indoor extension to the existing Ballroom on the second floor, a common terrace on the fifth floor, a restaurant with a rooftop terrace accessible to everyone and a swimming pool on the rooftop terrace.

The project offers suite types of various sizes and a broad price range as well as many amenities offered on-site. The ‘’L’’ shape of the building maximises views towards the golf course and the ponds. Future residents will benefit from a large landscaped garden. The spacious double height lobby and foyer at the entrance will welcome visitors to the complex. All residential parking will be located on two levels of underground parking and on the enclosed first floor of the existing parking structure. The access will be from the driveway going down to P1 level directly from Terry Fox Drive. The two buildings will be interconnected on level P1. All the visitors and restaurant guests parking will be provided on the second floor of the existing parking structure. The dedicated pedestrian access is from the drop-off on the ground floor and continues onto a new entrance in the open-air parking. Based on the parking regulations, 397 vehicle parking spaces will be provided. This takes into account 304 spaces for residents, 51 spaces for visitors and 42 for the restaurant guests.















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I get Casino hotel vibes from the look of the complex as a whole. Not in a bad way.

Pretty wild to imagine a building only 3 feet shorter and of similar girth to Place de Ville Tower C in the middle of Kanata.

The balcony glass on the curved balconies looks a little worrisome, it could end up looking really chintzy like Icon.
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Pretty wild to imagine a building only 3 feet shorter and of similar girth to Place de Ville Tower C in the middle of Kanata.
While I agree that it will likely be the largest tower in Kanata, I don't feel it is as wild as you are making it out to be. If it was being built in Orleans, for sure, but Kanata has a lot of tall buildings already. The existing, neighbouring Brookstreet Hotel is approximately 20 stories and there and there are many other buildings in Kanata that are in the 10-15 story range, most of which were built over 20 years ago.

What is really needed is the removal of the vast parking lots to increase the density, making it more walkable and easier to provide effective transit. It is good to see that this building will have underground parking, but more is needed.

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Slight improvement in design, but I still don't get the flat/nearly blank walls. This isn't downtown where future buildings could be wall to wall. Ridiculous amount of parking, of course. Should be limited to one per unit max.
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While I agree that it will likely be the largest tower in Kanata, I don't feel it is as wild as you are making it out to be. If it was being built in Orleans, for sure, but Kanata has a lot of tall buildings already. The existing, neighbouring Brookstreet Hotel is approximately 20 stories and there and there are many other buildings in Kanata that are in the 10-15 story range, most of which were built over 20 years ago.

What is really needed is the removal of the vast parking lots to increase the density, making it more walkable and easier to provide effective transit. It is good to see that this building will have underground parking, but more is needed.
The Brookstreet is only 60 metres tall, barely over half what this new tower will be. This tower will absolutely dwarf the Brookstreet and all the little 8-10 story office buildings around it. I'm not sure where Kanata has 'a lot of tall buildings already' unless you consider the three 16 story apartment towers over by the centrum tall. Regardless, those are kilometers away.
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Slight improvement in design, but I still don't get the flat/nearly blank walls. This isn't downtown where future buildings could be wall to wall. Ridiculous amount of parking, of course. Should be limited to one per unit max.
For Area C on Schedule 1A, the minimum parking requirement is 1.2 per dwelling unit for residents in Mid-high Rise Apartments. Doing the math, 253 x 1.2 is 303.6, so the planned 304 spaces for residents is the minimum number permissible by code.

Given that the closest grocery store is 2 km away, and it isn't a very nice walk (either along March Rd or cut through the parking lot of the old Mitel campus), I can't imagine many tenants not having a car, so I don't see the amount of parking as a major issue in this particular location.
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For Area C on Schedule 1A , the minimum parking requirement is 1.2 per dwelling unit for residents in Mid-high Rise Apartments. Doing the math, 253 x 1.2 is 303.6, so the planned 304 spaces for residents is the minimum number permissible by code.

Given that the closest grocery store is 2 km away, and it isn't a very nice walk (either along March Rd or cut through the parking lot of the old Mitel campus), I can't imagine many tenants not having a car, so I don't see the amount of parking as a major issue in this particular location.
Point taken. It's the City that should be revising its rules.

I don't dispute that a car is needed at this location. One per unit would be acceptable. But I'm not there's a good argument for two cars. Sure, some will argue that a couple might work overlapping hours in different parts of town, but they are not necessarily the ones who will score two parking spots.
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