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PHILADELPHIA | 2301 JFK Boulevard | 303 FT | 22 FLOORS

RIP the Chinese Wall

Title: 2301 JFK Boulevard
Project: Residential & Office
Architect: Gensler
Developer: PMC Property Group
Location: 2300 Block of JFK Boulevard, Philadelphia, PA
Neighborhood: Center City West
District: Center City
Floors: 22 floors
Height: 303 ft





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Now that I look at the renderings again, they are accurate. Seeing the train tracks in front of the building is what caused the confusion. It’s great to see the possibility of even such odd lots filling in.
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Now that I look at the renderings again, they are accurate. Seeing the train tracks in front of the building is what caused the confusion. It’s great to see the possibility of even such odd lots filling in.
Agreed. The design might be boring or underwhelming on a more prime lot but I think this truthfully exceeds anything we could have hoped to expected to happen at this lot this cycle (or even next cycle, or the one after that).
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Great project. Build it!
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I never thought this parcel was big enough to support a tower. Guess I was wrong in the best of ways.
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I never thought this parcel was big enough to support a tower. Guess I was wrong in the best of ways.
Yep! Towers can be built above the train tracks too along the 2000, 2100 and 2200 blocks of JFK... it's just more costly, so these will be the last 3 parcels developed in the area for sure.
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not a great design, but more concerning is that the more office buildings they build on the east side of the river, the less likely that Schuylkill Yards will be built in its anticipated form, at least in a reasonable time frame. And less likely still would be the 30th Street District. If there is this anticipated need for office space, why not put it in SY? then when that's built, let the overflow demand spill across the river.
Unless the demand for office space is so great that the market could absorb both, which I wish were true but I don't think it is.
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So we're looking at a spec office building here? That's surprising in two ways: (1) we know that the Center City office market sits on the lower end of viability for spec construction (when was the last time a spec office building got built in Center City, anyway?) and (2) PMC is better known as an apartment developer than an office one. I guess that, with respect to the second point, PMC's Aramark project was so successful they want to get more broadly into the office game?
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That better not be another blank wall
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At least if it is a blank wall, River Walk II will (mostly) cover it. Then again, the Ritz 'mostly' covers the W.

However, this parcel is incredibly small. I wouldn't be surprised if a blank wall is a necessity simply from a design standpoint.

Love the height, hate the design. I would love it if this got refined in CDR, a la 523 N Broad.

Also, has anyone else noticed that this building will replace the last remnant of the 'Chinese Wall?' That's Philly history right there!
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Could a mod tag this as Philadelphia?
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At least if it is a blank wall, River Walk II will (mostly) cover it. Then again, the Ritz 'mostly' covers the W.

However, this parcel is incredibly small. I wouldn't be surprised if a blank wall is a necessity simply from a design standpoint.

Love the height, hate the design. I would love it if this got refined in CDR, a la 523 N Broad.

Also, has anyone else noticed that this building will replace the last remnant of the 'Chinese Wall?' That's Philly history right there!
On the floorplan, the blank wall is facing PECO. And yes, I see that the wall is a necessity due to small size.The design for me is meh, but I like the shape. When viewed from Commerce Square this'll look kind of like a modern Flatiron Building
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Sharp building and an efficient use of a smaller parcel of property. Walking towards 30th St is going to be visually much more exciting with this and Riverwalk buildings.
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This, along with Riverwalk will be a regular Glass Menagerie along the river.

CC 1-6-20 c2

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River City 2.0?

I'm having flashbacks to 2006.




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This, along with Riverwalk will be a regular Glass Menagerie along the river.

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That building in the middle isn’t going to have much of a view.
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I like it. Simple, good infill especially considering the location.

The design is pleasing-enough...and I doubt there is a blank wall on the south side.
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