The Pullman (517 Gladstone) | 3fl | Completed

waterloowarrior · #1 Posted **Aug 9, 2017, 2:45 PM**

Charlesfort is back!

http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/...appId=__APHMO7

McC · #2 Posted **Aug 9, 2017, 3:02 PM**

speaking of gap filling (picking up from the Cycling thread); streetview: https://goo.gl/maps/3YWLn7EGR7H2

cr872190 · #3 Posted **Aug 9, 2017, 3:22 PM**

Well that's disappointing. Was looking forward to seeing what Charlesfort was up to next.

McC · #4 Posted **Aug 9, 2017, 3:26 PM**

A handsome building for a vacant lot on a downtown street that badly needs some love, at a scale that is likely to be built sooner rather than later. I don't see anything to be disappointed about.

FutureWickedCity · #5 Posted **Aug 9, 2017, 3:43 PM**

Finally!!!! I think this lot has been deserted for my entire 39-year old life. Nothing runs down a block like a big, empty void. Doesn't help when the building next door is candidate for fugliest building in the city (anyone remember "Sweater ConTEMPOrararies"? lol). Nice to see the revitalization of Gladstone ongoing.

cr872190 · #6 Posted **Aug 9, 2017, 5:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by McC

A handsome building for a vacant lot on a downtown street that badly needs some love, at a scale that is likely to be built sooner rather than later. I don't see anything to be disappointed about.

As someone who is in the market for a condominium purchase in the next 2-4 years, I was not hoping for some narrow, awkwardly designed 'stacked townhomes'. The units only access is three open air staircases on the back of the building, and each come with a rather small balcony. Charlesfort's other buildings have had some beautifully and well thought out layouts.

And as an avid fan of development, I would selfishly like Charlesfort's designs to dominate our skyline.

McC · #7 Posted **Aug 9, 2017, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by cr872190

The units only access is three open air staircases on the back of the building.

I beg your pardon?

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The façade of the development is divided into four (4) sections punctuated by three (3) enclosed stairways that provide access to each unit.

cr872190 · #8 Posted **Aug 9, 2017, 5:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by McC

I beg your pardon?

You are forgiven.

TransitZilla · #9 Posted **Aug 9, 2017, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by cr872190

You are forgiven.

It looks like there is an error in that image. The rendering clearly shows, and the planning rationale specifically states, that the front staircases are enclosed. Only the secondary rear staircases are exterior.

Norman Bates · #10 Posted **Aug 10, 2017, 12:23 AM**

No elevator means I'm out.

Urbanarchit · #11 Posted **Aug 10, 2017, 3:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by Norman Bates

No elevator means I'm out.

It would be better to have one for accessibility and moving furniture, but considering the height and size, this is likely a Part 9 building in the OBC, meaning that standards for accessibility and fire safety are not going to be as strict as Part 3 buildings. The cost of the elevator and it's maintenance split across 18 units might be a bit too high... Walking up to the second or third floor isn't too strenuous though. It's like walking up to the second floor of a house.

I'm disappointed there won't be retail on the street. Isn't Gladstone zoned to allow for retail? There are some spots nearby with stores - why couldn't this one include it? Obviously, the floorplan and accessing the units would be completely different, but this looks... cheap?

waterloowarrior · #12 Posted **Aug 10, 2017, 7:56 PM**

I think it's a Building/Fire Code reference related to sprinkler requirements. Opening can also mean windows and doors.

unfinite · #13 Posted **Aug 11, 2017, 4:05 PM**

It would be much better with some ground floor retail, but I'm happy with any work getting done in the neighbourhood. I don't know who would want a long skinny ground floor condo anyway. Should be retail.

Looks like a modern version of this monstrosity just three streets over on Arlington:

Which is actually being torn down at the moment to construct this much better building:

Urbanarchit · #14 Posted **Aug 11, 2017, 7:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by unfinite

It would be much better with some ground floor retail, but I'm happy with any work getting done in the neighbourhood. I don't know who would want a long skinny ground floor condo anyway. Should be retail.

Looks like a modern version of this monstrosity just three streets over on Arlington:

Which is actually being torn down at the moment to construct this much better building:

I saw this happening and was really sad. The proposed building is really bleak/ uninteresting, while the original one as actually quite beautiful if you were to remove the giant boxes and revealed the original building behind.