NEW YORK | 495 11th Avenue | 680 + 653 FT | 56 + 55 FLOORS

Hypothalamus · #1 Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 9:09 PM**

City Agrees to Turn NYPD Parking Lot Into 100 Percent Affordable Housing

July 10, 2015
Rosa Goldensohn

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HELL’S KITCHEN — A city-owned parking lot at Eleventh Avenue and West 39th Street is on track to become a fully affordable apartment building, the city's Economic Development Corporation confirmed Friday.

The city will put out a request for proposals this summer with its goals for the space, which has been used as an NYPD parking lot for decades. The city's RFP for the space would include commercial and community space in addition to the maximum number of affordable units, according to spokeswoman Kelly Magee.

The local community board had pressed for the permanently affordable building in a May resolution.

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The board also asked for a roof garden, as well as family-sized units and that the building's design "include façade articulation and avoid looking like a dystopian glass box."

Committee Calls for All Affordable Housing at 39th Street Site

March 12, 2015
Evan Bindelglass

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Community Board 4's Land Use Committee will soon issue a Request for Proposals (RFP) for a 25,000-square-foot site at 493 Eleventh Avenue, a city-owned parking lot currently used by the NYPD (and formerly the site of a slaughterhouse).

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As for the size of the building, the committee proposed the building be 450-feet-tall or about 45 stories, which it estimates would hold about 300 units. However, if the retail envisioned for the first and second floors was exempted from FAR (floor area ratio) regulations, the building could potentially be a couple stories taller. Members suggested some level of "façade articulation" so that the building isn't a boring box, as well as a green building with rooftop space open to all residents, a children's playroom, and possibly a computer room.

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JR Ewing · #2 Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 9:39 PM**

That's ridiculous. These sites could have generated enormous revenue that NYC needs. Housing for the poor should be built in less prime areas.

Why do these schlongs think that they have a right to live in Manhattan?

chris08876 · #3 Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 9:59 PM**

Superbly underwhelming. Almost a waste of a site.

yankeesfan1000 · #4 Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 10:28 PM**

Wouldn't it make more sense to up zone city owned sites in the area, sell the lots, and use the proceeds to help fund the 10th Ave 7 Train Stop?

Hypothalamus · #5 Posted **Jul 13, 2015, 1:10 AM**

Agreed on all points -- the biggest joke is the site only has 125,000 square feet of development rights; it should be triple or quadruple that.

Crawford · #6 Posted **Jul 13, 2015, 1:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by yankeesfan1000

Wouldn't it make more sense to up zone city owned sites in the area, sell the lots, and use the proceeds to help fund the 10th Ave 7 Train Stop?

Of course that would make sense. But this is a NIMBY, anti-everything community board. Why would they support something sensible?

chris08876 · #7 Posted **Jul 13, 2015, 10:32 AM**

Whoever lives here will be some lucky folks. Most likely a bargain given the location. Assuming they even get a unit once they go through the lottery for one.

That's the thing with affordable housing. Its a great way to live in Manhattan cheaply, but the odds of getting a unit are terrible.

Hypothalamus · #8 Posted **Jul 13, 2015, 3:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

Whoever lives here will be some lucky folks. Most likely a bargain given the location. Assuming they even get a unit once they go through the lottery for one.

That's the thing with affordable housing. Its a great way to live in Manhattan cheaply, but the odds of getting a unit are terrible.

There's probably better odds to win $1 million in the lotto and drop it on a condo than apply for some unit in an 80/20.

NYguy · #9 Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 2:49 AM**

Something else nearby to keep an eye on...

http://www.barbieli.com/property/prime-hudson-yards-development-site/

tdawg · #10 Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 12:52 PM**

^^^ That's a cool rendering!

Crawford · #11 Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 1:26 PM**

That rendering is for an adjacent site, BTW. It isn't 493 11th Ave.

patriotizzy · #12 Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 6:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

That rendering is for an adjacent site, BTW. It isn't 493 11th Ave.

Yeah, NYGuy made that very clear. Still, a badass looking skinny building.

timpdx · #13 Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 8:24 PM**

Yawn, another day, another 7-800 footer

Cynicism · #14 Posted **Jul 17, 2015, 8:23 PM**

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chris08876 · #15 Posted **Aug 31, 2015, 10:59 PM**

Hopefully we will get a nice tower. Good location for a filler.

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City wants affordable housing at site of former slaughterhouse

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The Manhattan site of an early 20th century slaughterhouse turned warehouse turned NYPD parking lot would become home to an affordable housing complex with other amenities under a proposal Mayor Bill de Blasio's administration issued Monday morning.

The city's Economic Development Corporation is seeking bidders to build a mixed-use facility on the 24,687-square-foot, city-owned site at 495 11th Ave.

The administration is hoping the property's proximity to the expansive Hudson Yards project, coupled with the upcoming extension of the 7 train, will attract developers.

"The Slaughterhouse Site Request For Proposals takes advantage of the real momentum happening on the far west side of Manhattan to enhance the existing neighborhood through the creation of much-needed affordable housing," Department of Housing and Preservation Development commissioner Vicki Been said in a prepared statement.

The project sets the bar high for affordable housing by encouraging respondents to build a completely affordable residential project, preferably without any city subsidies.

But the language in the RFP is careful to state that that is just a goal and leaves open the possibility of public subsidies for the project.

The city "will evaluate proposals based on the feasibility of the applicant's plan to maintain long-term affordability of residential units through cross-subsidy from the commercial and/or community facility uses, without ongoing public subsidy," according to the RFP.

In other words, the administration is hoping private revenue will fund affordable housing, helping the mayor reach his goal of building 80,000 units and preserving another 120,000 by 2024.

"We have a unique opportunity through this project to activate a prime location in a growing neighborhood for new affordable housing development," EDC president Maria Torres-Springer said in a prepared statement. "We look forward to advancing the mayor's Housing New York goals through this project and providing new opportunities and amenities for longtime residents and local businesses in Hell's Kitchen."

The 59-page RFP does not define specific targets for affordable housing, but sets the ceiling at 165 percent of the area median income — $128,184 for a family of three, according to federal standards.

The solicitation does encourage respondents to come up with a range of affordability levels. "Proposals that have a maximum of 15 percent studio units and a minimum of 15 percent three-bedroom units are strongly preferred," it adds.

EDC anticipates that commercial and community space on the site could exceed 100,000 square feet, an agency spokeswoman said.

The agency is looking for proposals that include recommendations from the local community board, including a supermarket, "affordable rehearsal space" and a height restriction on buildings of 450 feet.

The RFP also notes that the local community board has expressed concerns about hotels, and as such, "hotel uses are strongly discouraged."

Councilman Corey Johnson, who represents the slaughterhouse site, said in an email that the city "must use every tool at our disposal to keep the west side affordable to working- and middle-class New Yorkers and projects like this are key to helping us meet that challenge."

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http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/ci...ite-former-slaughterhouse?top-featured-1

Hypothalamus · #16 Posted **Sep 1, 2015, 12:13 AM**

Thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=217881

HK4Life · #17 Posted **Oct 7, 2015, 12:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by JR Ewing

That's ridiculous. These sites could have generated enormous revenue that NYC needs. Housing for the poor should be built in less prime areas.

Why do these schlongs think that they have a right to live in Manhattan?

Many of these "poor people" have lived in HK for generations. If HK suddenly becomes a prime area they should be kicked out? No way! If it wasn't so "trendy" to live here we wouldn't be having this problem in the first place.

Crawford · #18 Posted **Oct 7, 2015, 1:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by HK4Life

Many of these "poor people" have lived in HK for generations. If HK suddenly becomes a prime area they should be kicked out? No way! If it wasn't so "trendy" to live here we wouldn't be having this problem in the first place.

Complete nonsense. The poor people in HK all live in rent-regulated housing. The gentrification on the West Side isn't going to be forcing out one person in rent-regulated housing.

The tenants in this new building will almost all be non-poor and not from the neighborhood. You don't have poor people living in $4,000 a month one bedrooms (standard rents for the neighborhood).

HK4Life · #19 Posted **Oct 8, 2015, 10:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

Complete nonsense. The poor people in HK all live in rent-regulated housing. The gentrification on the West Side isn't going to be forcing out one person in rent-regulated housing.

The tenants in this new building will almost all be non-poor and not from the neighborhood. You don't have poor people living in $4,000 a month one bedrooms (standard rents for the neighborhood).

Complete nonsense! First of all if you all didn't want to live here the standard rent would not be $4000 a month. That is ludicrous! Lol! I have a bridge to sell anyone who wants to live in a slum and pay 4000 bucks a month. Fools! Second of all, Yes many of the poor have been in rent stabilized apartments because of the amount of years they have lived in the building BUT where are their children supposed to move to when they come of age? 3 generations should stay in a one bedroom apartment? As far as poor losing housing for the benefit of the rich, you should do your homework. Ever hear of San Juan Hill? Maybe not because Lincoln Center replaced it forcing thousands of families out of their homes. You don't think many now are being harassed out of their buildings? Wake up! On top of THAT... You all want to destroy our culture, history and character of our neighborhood with huge glass boxes. Whitewash a neighborhood that was a melting pot for generations. You want to steamroll our factories and buildings of character, you better believe we should have first crack at whatever you are all replacing it with. "La Di Da I live in Hell's Kitchen". That's what the transplants love to brag. Heh! This isn't Hell's Kitchen anymore. Not since the rich yups started moving in. May as well call it Clinton. No way in heck any of the transplants here now would EVER have survived Hell's Kitchen. No way!

pico44 · #20 Posted **Oct 8, 2015, 10:51 AM**

Perhaps I am the only one, but a neighborhood that endangers "Yups" or anyone else is something whose character I'm not interested in preserving.

And just to be sure I've got this right, you're saying living in Manhattan is a birthright?