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Old Posted Jan 10, 2014, 4:11 PM
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MONTREAL | Tour des Canadiens 2 | 166 M / 545 FT | 53 FLOORS

MONTREAL | Tour des Canadiens (Phase II) | 120 M / 394 FT | 38 FLOORS
Architects: IBI / CHBA, IBI / Page + Steele



































File submitted to OCPM: http://ocpm.qc.ca/sites/ocpm.qc.ca/files/pdf/P72/3a.pdf
OCPM Reference: http://ocpm.qc.ca/node/4080
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Old Posted Jan 10, 2014, 5:01 PM
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Wonderful post MTLskyline, a real treat to read through.


As for the look of the new phases, I dig it. It will fix that side of St-Antoine and add much needed life to the sector, which is very downtrodden. And though I wish they had integrated the dilapidated tenements on the south side of the street, I accept that their disappearance if it means we can have these towers, which will be more to scale in relation to the area, and will be great contributors to expanding the downtown south.

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Old Posted Jan 11, 2014, 4:26 PM
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And though I wish they had integrated the dilapidated tenements on the south side of the street, I accept that their disappearance if it means we can have these towers, which will be more to scale in relation to the area, and will be great contributors to expanding the downtown south.
Look at this Rico for the phase III:

     
     
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2014, 4:55 AM
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2014, 5:00 AM
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Noticed my separate thread for Phase III was deleted, so here are the preliminary phase III renders:

MONTREAL | Tour des Canadiens (Phase III) | 120 M / 394 FT | 37 FLOORS
Architects: IBI / CHBA, IBI / Page + Steele









File submitted to OCPM: http://ocpm.qc.ca/sites/ocpm.qc.ca/files/pdf/P72/3a.pdf
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 3:04 PM
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Do we know what happened?
Apparently, most seemed in favor of the development itself, but neutral about the connection with the Bell Centre.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 3:13 PM
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This session was only for the developer to present his project - the real consultation, when parties give their opinions/objections to the project will be on February 25th.

Edit: people have until February 20th to register to be able to present an opinion at the February 25th meeting...
http://ocpm.qc.ca/sites/ocpm.qc.ca/files/pdf/P72/2b.pdf
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 3:21 PM
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Edit: SkahHigh and Franktko beat me to it.

This was the first OCPM meeting concerning this project. The developer, Cadillac Fairview and architect Aurèle Cardinal of IBI / CHBA presented the project to the 100 or so citizens in attendance. Citizens can make their opinions known at a meeting on February 25 (they must register by February 20 to be eligible).

An OCPM representative conceded that issues regarding height are controversial and Dinu Bumbaru of Heritage Montreal seemed concerned about the loss of the abandoned buildings currently on site (they were home to the black community's club scene in the 1910s and 20s).

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Plus d'une centaine de personnes participent à la consultation publique de l'OCPM sur le projet de construction de deux tours dans le secteur du Centre Bell

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Le projet prévoit la démolition de quatre bâtiments non résidentiels et l'intégration partielle d'un cinquième. Le conseil municipal a mandaté l'OCPM sur le projet de règlement modifiant le Plan d'urbanisme qui rendrait le projet réalisable.

La séance d'information d'hier soir a permis aux citoyens de prendre connaissance du projet et de poser toutes les questions qu'ils jugeaient utiles sur différents aspects de ce développement. À compter du mardi 25 février, les citoyens pourront exprimer une opinion et faire des recommandations sur ce projet. Pour ce faire, les citoyens et organismes devront signifier à l'OCPM leur intention de présenter une opinion en communiquant, avant le 20 février, avec M. Gilles Vézina au 514-872-8510.
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http://www.newswire.ca/fr/story/1296...cteur-du-centr
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 3:39 PM
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This is so pointless... Old or not, they're ABANDONED, and they have been for years.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 3:48 PM
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The project will be approved. Citizens asked stupid questions. They cannot do anything to stop this from happening. The ''abandoned buildings''


I think they would be proud.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 11:01 PM
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An OCPM representative conceded that issues regarding height are controversial and Dinu Bumbaru of Heritage Montreal seemed concerned about the loss of the abandoned buildings currently on site (they were home to the black community's club scene in the 1910s and 20s).
Thanks for the info. I had no idea about these black clubs, fascinating. THat being said, it was 100 years ago, and these buildings' function 100 years ago doesn't give them any special Privilege. Are we going to special heritage status to every single building that houses parties for ethnic minorities?
     
     
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Wow, those are some quite beautiful towers! I wish we could get something like that in Ottawa (visiting from SSP Ottawa, although some of my photos of Montreal have been shared here).

I don't really like that surface parking lot. If they want to offer parking, underground is a better option, but surface parking lots aren't very attractive or safe feeling, and contribute to the Urban Heat Island effect due to all the asphalt. It could be used for greenspace or something else, I think.
     
     
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As far as I can tell, this project includes no such exterior parking lot.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2014, 2:14 PM
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As far as I can tell, this project includes no such exterior parking lot.
I believe he is talking about Jack's Parking, which isn't part of the project but will stand between the two towers.
     
     
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I believe he is talking about Jack's Parking, which isn't part of the project but will stand between the two towers.
Ah, I didn't see the name Jack's on that parking lot. Does it belong to a business?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2014, 8:30 PM
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Ah, I didn't see the name Jack's on that parking lot. Does it belong to a business?
Yes, the owner of that parking lot didn't want to sell his land.
     
     
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Yes, the owner of that parking lot didn't want to sell his land.
That's unfortunate...
     
     
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Is there any update on this project?
     
     
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http://www.newswire.ca/fr/story/1326...le-de-montreal

It's now part of a bigger project, Quad Windsor.
     
     
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