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Old Posted Jul 5, 2012, 4:59 PM
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Columbus in March - Downtown, neighborhoods, transit

In March I made a quick trip to Columbus. Here are the pictures.




Columbus is my personal mental tipping point for a "good city". It has a sort of OK but not great downtown, and a collection of pretty good central city neighborhoods. It's far from the best, but just as far from the worst. Other cities that are as good or better than Columbus, I think of as good cities. Other cities that are not as good as Columbus, I think of as bad / overly suburban ones.

Anyway, we started Downtown, in a parking garage that gave us this view of Columbus' new(ish?) park, Columbus Commons.

I appreciate the idea. I think it may take a few more years for the Commons to reach its potential.




Ohio's weird, dome-less state capitol. With, I think, some Occupy tents. Oh, and isn't that skyscraper the city's tallest?




Nice details on this building. And you have to like blue glass.




Columbus' main north-south road is High Street, and its main east-west road is Broad Street. They meet at this intersection.




I was there on a weekend and I'm sure the pedestrian traffic is a lot heavier during the week. Nonetheless I thought the Times Square treatment was a little overboard for the location. The scale of the buildings isn't right for this, IMO.




Not sure what building this is from, but it's pretty.




My family lived in the suburbs of Columbus when I was between 2 and 8 years old. We used to go to a great children's museum called COSI that was located in this building. The museum has since relocated, and now the county government owns the building.




That children's museum was right across the street from the original Wendy's restaurant. When I was a kid, we would go to the museum and than have dinner at the original Wendy's. At some point between then and now, the building was torn down and replaced by a god-damned parking lot. I believe my reaction upon seeing this was "are you fucking kidding me?!"




The parking lot appears to be owned by the Catholic church's cathedral for Columbus, which is across the street a half block over. Normally I am a big fan of cathedrals, but screw these guys.




This is Broad Street, near the Wendy's/old COSI/cathedral, looking back towards the center of downtown.




Love this building, so much.






But of course, Columbus' best building is its famous deco skyscraper, Leveque Tower. Definitely one of the best skyscrapers anywhere.






The Scioto River (pronounced sigh-oh-tuh) runs through downtown. It's a nice river, wide enough to be pretty and have some shipping, but narrow enough to bridge and cross easily. Good place for a city.

There are a series of parks and such along the waterfront.




Is that... yes it is. Santa Maria reproduction. Why not.




More waterfront. This part is nice, except it had dumb piped-in music. I hate that. It is never a good addition outdoors.




The large white building in the previous picture is Ohio's Supreme Court. I *think* this picture is also from that building, but there's a chance it's from Leveque Tower.




Looking across the river. Google Maps tells me that's a high school.




Columbus' central library. It's a Carnegie library, and looks almost identical to DC's old central library (also a Carnegie).




When DC outgrew our old Carnegie central library, we abandoned it (it's now a local city history museum). Columbus smartly expanded theirs. In this picture you can see the expansion, which blends pretty well for a mid-20th Century building.




OK. Let's leave downtown and hit the neighborhoods. We spent most of our time in the Short North, which is along High Street between downtown and Ohio State University.




I like the overhead things.












There's a really cool urban design feature on High Street. I-670 runs depressed in a trench perpendicular to High Street, between Short North and downtown. High Street crosses over I-670. To avoid making pedestrians cross a loud and uncomfortable highway overpass, and to stitch together the neighborhoods north and south of the highway, they built a "cap" above the highway, and lined each side of High Street with shops. Thus, as a pedestrian you never know you're crossing a highway.

This is what it looks like from the sidewalk.




But walk behind the building and you can see the highway passing underneath.




The building is pretty detailed, which is nice. The material is not quite right, unfortunately. Still, overall a great addition to the neighborhood.




I am not sure, but based on its location I suspect that this pleasant little square used to be a highway exit from I-670 on to High Street.




We also went to German Village.




But we didn't stay there long.


It's my custom to include a lot of Transit/Transportation pictures when I visit cities. Columbus has very limited transit, but there were still some interesting things.

Columbus doesn't have any rail. It doesn't even have Amtrak. Absolutely zilch. Like any city, it does have some buses.




The only concession to rapid transit I saw anywhere was a stretch of bus lane in front of the state capitol in downtown. This appears to be where most of Columbus' buses come together, and is as much of a "transit station" as seems to exist anywhere in the city.




It's lined with super-sized bus stops, but I don't see any extra amenities except that the shelter is bigger than normal.




Columbus once had at least two large train stations. Union Station was the bigger, but is no longer standing. This mural shows what Union Station looked like (the High Street cap of I-670 was designed to look similar).




The other station was Toledo & Ohio Central Station, which is still standing but isn't used as a train station anymore. Here it is.




Here's some background.




Despite the lack of good transit, Columbus does have some other interesting things going on regarding transportation.

Their street design is pretty progressive, including use of sidewalk bioswales to improve water runoff. Basically, stormwater flows from the street into this little basin, and is used to grow the landscaping. It never reaches the sewer.




Bicycles are treated pretty well in Columbus. There are a fair number of bike lanes, and even covered parking.




I even ran across a bike box and green-painted bike lane. Very progressive.


This picture from Considerbiking.org. All other pictures in this thread are from me.


That's about it. Goodbye.

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Bonus: Panorama of downtown and the Scioto River. For some reason my panorama stitching software failed halfway through and wouldn't restart, so I had to add in the right half of this manually (which explains why it sucks).

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Columbus is very progressive, probably the most progressive of Ohio's big three C's. Also good to see you got Short North and the German Village. Nice tour, thanks!
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Nice pics of my hometown! Downtown is quite disjointed with destinations scattered all over where buildings were left intact, but thankfully they put in kiosks with maps showing where restaurants, bars, and retail are located. The downtown stretch of High isn't there yet. The two-block stretch of Gay St is the most pedestrian-friendly street design in the city, but they're not replicating it anywhere else for some odd reason just like the 670 cap. Oh, and Wendy's was in the building with adjoining parking: it's just now being used by catholics. And this would be the Wyandotte Building, which is also a favorite of mine.



At least you were able to hit up the Short North and German Village, a couple of the best the city has to offer. If you go further up High north of Lane, Old North Columbus would round out the top three and it's much more down to earth. Transit wise, about the only nice thing I have to say about COTA is that they have bike racks on the buses.
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Just a few quick things (great photos, btw)

I appreciate the idea. I think it may take a few more years for the Commons to reach its potential.

The park is going to be surrounded by 6-7 story apartments enclosing the park. Construction starts later this year.


http://www.dispatch.com/content/graphics/2012/04/04/commons3.jpg?__scale=w:620,h:415,c:666666

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That children's museum was right across the street from the original Wendy's restaurant. When I was a kid, we would go to the museum and than have dinner at the original Wendy's. At some point between then and now, the building was torn down and replaced by a god-damned parking lot. I believe my reaction upon seeing this was "are you fucking kidding me?!"
Downtown Columbus used to have three Wendy's locations about five-ish years ago. All three closed.

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The Scioto River (pronounced sigh-oh-tuh) runs through downtown. It's a nice river, wide enough to be pretty and have some shipping, but narrow enough to bridge and cross easily. Good place for a city.
It's pronounced Sigh-yo-toh. Your pronounciation is used by Appalachian folks from the Kentucky or West Virginia (or Scioto County, Ohio). It never had shipping due to downriver rapids. It's more of a recreational river, if anything.

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More waterfront. This part is nice, except it had dumb piped-in music. I hate that. It is never a good addition outdoors.
While I agree, the piped-in music was used to deter the homeless population from using the park as a Hyatt.

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I am not sure, but based on its location I suspect that this pleasant little square used to be a highway exit from I-670 on to High Street.
Correct.

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The only concession to rapid transit I saw anywhere was a stretch of bus lane in front of the state capitol in downtown. This appears to be where most of Columbus' buses come together, and is as much of a "transit station" as seems to exist anywhere in the city.
Columbus has two actual downtown "transit" stations but neither are lookers. One is in on the northside of downtown at Wall & Spring. The other is just south of Columbus Commons park at High & Rich. Again, neither are pretty by anymeans and I'd argue the Statehouse "bus stop" (basically High Street, between State & Broad) needs to be upgraded.
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Columbus has two actual downtown "transit" stations but neither are lookers. One is in on the northside of downtown at Wall & Spring. The other is just south of Columbus Commons park at High & Rich. Again, neither are pretty by anymeans and I'd argue the Statehouse "bus stop" (basically High Street, between State & Broad) needs to be upgraded.
High and Rich is the parking garage we parked at. I noticed the COTA sign on the side, but couldn't find anything that looked like a bus station, except for the "bigger than normal" bus stop shelter that's pictured here. Is there something else?

Here's Wall & Spring bus depot via Street View, which is marginally more than a regular bus stop, but barely.
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Underwhelming.
In all fairness to Columbus, the downtown is definitely not it's greatest strength. The neighborhoods that surround downtown are fantastic. If you were to take a walk around Victorian, Italian, or German Village, you'd get a better impression. The sad thing is that downtown Columbus is much improved over how it was a decade or more ago.
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Thanks for sharing, love quicky tours, wish there was more of German Village.
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High and Rich is the parking garage we parked at. I noticed the COTA sign on the side, but couldn't find anything that looked like a bus station, except for the "bigger than normal" bus stop shelter that's pictured here. Is there something else?

Here's Wall & Spring bus depot via Street View, which is marginally more than a regular bus stop, but barely.
The former, hilariously, is on the backside of the garage. I told you both are not worth mentioning.

And I forgot to mention that parking lot has always been there, even when it was the old Wendy's. That Catholic building took the same layout of the original Wendy's. So technically, Wendy's was not torn down for a parking lot, it was torn down for a Catholic piece of crap.


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That is strange that they would tear down the original Wendys. What's even stranger is that in the home of Wendys has not a single location within the inner freeway loop (which I assume covers all of "downtown"):

http://wendys.com/store-locator/index.jsp?postalCode=columbus%2C+ohio&x=0&y=0
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technically, Wendy's was not torn down for a parking lot
That makes me feel slightly better.
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The parking lot appears to be owned by the Catholic church's cathedral for Columbus, which is across the street a half block over. Normally I am a big fan of cathedrals, but screw these guys.

But of course, Columbus' best building is its famous deco skyscraper, Leveque Tower. Definitely one of the best skyscrapers anywhere.

Columbus' central library. It's a Carnegie library, and looks almost identical to DC's old central library (also a Carnegie).

When DC outgrew our old Carnegie central library, we abandoned it (it's now a local city history museum). Columbus smartly expanded theirs. In this picture you can see the expansion, which blends pretty well for a mid-20th Century building.
Churches are some of the worst offenders when it comes to tearing down things in favor of parking lots.

Columbus' art deco gem has always been one of my favorites. The major Ohio cities really did it right back in the 1910s-30s when it came to powerful art deco/beaux arts/neoclassical skyscrapers -- Cleveland with Terminal Tower, Cincinnati with Central Trust and Carew, and Columbus with LeVeque.

I didn't realize that building in DC was formerly the central library. The "new" one majorly sucks -- probably the worst big city library I've ever been to.
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thanks so much! I lived in Columbus in the 70's and had friends at Columbus College of Art and Design--next to the art museum; and remember "dining" at the original Wendy's. It think at that point it was still only a Columbus institution but had branched out to other parts of town and the suburbs.
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Columbus has some breathtaking buildings, and then it has the usual culprits from the 1960s forward. I'm fascinated that you consider Columbus to be a break point for whether cities can be judged either good or bad. These few pictures tell me the city is definitely above average in most respects. But I know what you mean! It's not quite good enough to be considered first-rate.
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Nice pics and thanks for the commentary, I always like reading your thoughts on the places you visit.

Is Columbus still considered the model testing market for new FMCGs in America? Whenever P&G or Unilever or others were planning on a new product or line launch, they used to do limited Columbus-area releases 6 months ahead of the national launch to test marketing strategies.
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