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Old Posted May 5, 2012, 4:30 AM
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McCormick Area Redevelopment

From derelict former industrial cradle . . . to off-core London housing gem?

Empty factories once home to iconic London employers could one day be razed in favour of medium-density housing



Empire Brass contributed to two war efforts. Ruggles Motor Trucks supplied vehicles for industry, Kelvinator refrigerators kept food fresh and McCormick's candies contributed to tooth decay in the days before water fluoridation.

The four industrial manufacturers were just across the road from the Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Co. Ltd.

The corn flake firm became Kellogg's.

The other four became extinct.

Heavy industry and manufacturing are long gone from the area around the old McCormick plant in London, with many buildings now vacant and derelict.

But city hall hopes to transform the McCormick area that was an early cradle of manufacturing in the city.

Townhouses could sprout from the brownfield site that once helped to drive the city's economy.

"It needs a push economically to make this area financially viable for development," concedes city planner John Fleming.

That may mean financial incentives to help deal with site contamination and other issues.

"Heavy industrial uses that used to locate there are no longer viable," he said.

The public will be asked for its input in June, he said. "This is just one input."

An economic analysis for what's called the McCormick Area will be filed with city council's planning committee Monday.

It says the days of heavy industry will never return to the area, and a combination of medium-density housing and light industry should be encouraged there.

The market and economic analysis by Watson and Associates will be considered as part of a continuing process to change the area's designation from general industrial.

The 35-hectare (86-acre) land parcel, 3 km east of downtown, is an ideal spot for so-called infill development, or filling in the gaps from things built before.

While the downtown is the focus of some big-idea visions, including a Western University satellite campus, the gritty industrial zone could be ripe for changes, too.

"The market potential for the subject area is strongest for medium-density residential development comprised of townhouse development," the Watson report concludes.

"The redevelopment of the subject area to accommodate residential development would be supportive of the city's planning objectives, including intensification targets and would be highly compatible with surrounding land uses," the report says.

City hall could consider inducements, such as development charge exemptions, redevelopment grants or loans and waiving or refunding building permit fees, it suggested.


FORMER INDUSTRIAL TITANS

Among those who’ve called the area home:

McCormick Manufacturing Co.

Address: 1156 Dundas St.

Built: 1913, to make candies and biscuits.

Notes: Once known as the Sunshine Palace for its unusually large number of windows and white-glaze terra cotta tile, the now-vacant factory is a top priority for a heritage designation.

Empire Manufacturing Co.

Address: 1100 and 1108 Dundas St.

Built: About 1910, as a manufacturer of brass, mainly plumbing products.

Notes: Closed in 2011. Built nose cones for First World War artillery casings and brass parts for Canadian Navy in the Second World War. No historic interest. Vacant.

Ruggles Truck Manufacturing plant

Address: 1152 Dundas St.

Built: About 1922.

Notes: A subsidiary of Ruggles Motor Truck Co., of Saginaw, Mich., it became a Kelvinator refrigerator manufacturing plant in 1926 and today is a used-car showroom. A top priority for heritage designation.

Hunt Brothers Flour Mill

Address: 471 Nightingale Ave.

Built: About 1922.

Notes: Considered of cultural interest. Until 1936, it was London’s tallest structure at six storeys. A 1934 fire there killed two London firefighters when flour dust exploded. A canoe manufacturing firm occupies it today.

"The city of London has a strong tradition of utilizing financial incentives/tools to foster development in areas with marginal development potential and the city could expand its current programs to include the McCormick area lands."

Fleming said development of a plan for the area was suspended for a time after land-use issues were addressed.

"These are brownfield issues and we are going to address those in the context of municipal budgets," he said. "We need to seek out what kinds of partnerships might be available provincially or federally and come up with some creative solutions."

After public input, the city hopes to have a final plan adopted by the end of the year.

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Sounds interesting! I've always been fascinated by that taller abandoned factory building. If possible, it would be great if some of the buildings could be saved and turned into residential or commercial buildings. Pair this redevelopment with the changes happening in Old East, and the possible redevelopment happening at the former Mental Health Centre, and East London will really start to improve!
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Wow quite interested in this one, I have always thought that should be a prime piece of land just sitting collecting dust. Good to see something happening.
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I was heading to work this morning, and saw a massive cloud of smoke ahead of me, I turned my head to look down McCormicks blvd, annnnnd one of the buildings a little bit back was ablaze. LFP has already put up information regarding the fire. I've personally never seen smoke like that before and the flames were a few dozen feet high, turns out officials are considering evacuating the area.
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Heard something quickly on the radio about this, apparently it's going to be a seniors apartment type complex with some commercial as well....certainly a step up compared to what is there now.
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Info?? I can see this place from my pad... and I NEED it to be done right!
This is the most I can find at the moment
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The sour taste left by an abandoned factory in east London is turning sweet again.

Two developers with track records of converting older buildings want to bring the McCormick’s candy and biscuit factory back to a new life.

London’s Allied Construction and Woodstock’s Sierra Construction have almost passed the first hurdle at city hall.

They’ve proved they have the ability to buy, and the experience to revitalize, the derelict but structurally sound building on Dundas St. at Ashland Ave.

Council will be asked Tuesday to back up a recommendation by staff and the corporate services committee that the two companies now be asked to submit detailed proposals for the site.

“It’s incredible news. We’re closing in on finally getting something done,” Ward 4 Coun. Stephen Orser said.

“We’re now at the stage where the proponents will come forward with their ideas. That’s the most exciting stage.”

The proposals should include the “purchase and adaptive re-use of the site,” city staff say in a report going to council.

For Sierra, that could mean creating a seniors’ residence in the building, company president Cliff Zaluski said.

There’s no definite proposal yet, but the focus would more likely be residential than commercial, he added.

“As long as the structure is good and the outside has an appealing look to it, there is potential there,” Zaluski said. “That area of town is redeveloping a bit, so I think it might work out.”

The company has experience converting buildings, and is turning a former, four-floor textile factory in Woodstock – the Harvey Woods building – into 50 affordable housing units for Homestead Christian Care.

Allied, of London has similar experience, and has received recognition from the city and the London downtown business association for its work.

Company president Tom Bird couldn’t be reached for comment, but his name in London is associated with turning downtown Dundas St. buildings into apartment lofts, and with the purchase and renovation of the Buchan House on Dundas St. for My Sisters’ Place women’s shelter.

The McCormick building was erected in 1913-14 at a cost of $1 million and became known as the “Sunshine Palace” because of its extensive use of windows and natural light. Shut down in 2008, the building has remained an eyesore and a target of vandals and firebugs.

But the factory was built to handle heavy machinery and supplies, and remains structurally sound.

Redevelopment of the site could spark revitalization elsewhere in the area, Orser said.

“It’s is going to be giganitic draw, hopefully. And I predict a chain reaction on the neighbouring properties, depending on the project that goes in.”

A multi-million dollar investment in the factory could create hundreds of construction and permanent jobs, he said.

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FORMER McCORMICK'S FACTORY

Now: Empty five-storey factory sitting on 5.2-hectare site on Dundas Street at Ashland Ave.

Before: McCormick’s candy and biscuit factory that once employed 1,000 people.

WHAT HAPPENED:

Plant closed in 2008
Complex was damaged by 2012 fire.

What it could become: Residential block, seniors’ housing
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outstanding news, should it go forward. I love rehabilitation over greenfield development
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I've heard rumblings in the neighbourhood that it is (hopefully), going to be a seniors pad. I don't know the immediate effect of the values of the house / homes around me, but I can only assume positive...

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Well anything's better than the abandoned drug den it currently is.. I hope all best, the building has a lot of potential.
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I drove by the other day and was wondering what ever happened with the last proposal.

Such a huge piece of wasted land, really hope they do something with it sooner than later. Plus it will really help the other residential in the area as it wont be attracting drug attic homeless people to the area.
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I really would like to see this go ahead. London has very, very few loft conversions compared to most cities due it's history. London was always a very white collar city and until 1950s absolutely NO industry so there are almost no lofts to convert so they should not miss this chance.
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While I took would love to see lofts, it's leaning towards a retirement type facility.

There are currently a pair of companies working towards that.

House values will rise, and I'm a happy camper because of that

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I really would like to see this go ahead. London has very, very few loft conversions compared to most cities due it's history. London was always a very white collar city and until 1950s absolutely NO industry so there are almost no lofts to convert so they should not miss this chance.
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Lofts would be outstanding, and attract just the sort of bohemian/creative type of people that the area needs to rebound in a funky-cool way.
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Anyone able to find an update on this? Was hoping to hear some more info.
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no update vs what was posted last
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no update vs what was posted last
I meant to drive by this weekend but ended up forgetting, any updates since last year?
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