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Where's Modern Architecture Headed?

Where's Modern Architecture Headed?


July 30, 2010

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There's a great article in today's NYT on post modern architecture. I grew up in Chandigarh, India's first 'planned' city, famed for its Swiss architect , 'Le Corbusier's' modern approach to urban planning. As a six year old growing up in North Africa, with its diametrically opposite approach to design and ornament, I started to see Chandigarh's modern severity with new eyes. While these are the well loved images of my childhood, I feel that the machine like, 'cold' sensibility of modern architecture is an artificiality, its future oriented thought process not spiritual, but existing purely on a mental, rationality driven plane.

- "...Alva Vanderbilt hired the most famous American architect of the day, Richard Morris Hunt, to design her a replica of the Petit Trianon as a summer house in Newport, and he did it, with relish. He was quite ready to satisfy that or any other fantasy of the Vanderbilts. "If they want a house with a chimney on the bottom," he said, "I'll give them one." But after 1945 our plutocrats, bureaucrats, board chairmen, CEO's, commissioners, and college presidents undergo an inexplicable change. They become diffident and reticent. All at once they are willing to accept that glass of ice water in the face, that bracing slap across the mouth, that reprimand for the fat on one's bourgeois soul, known as modern architecture.
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When Less Was No Longer More


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By JAYNE MERKEL

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Not long after the wrenching end of the Vietnam War, skyscrapers with pointed tops, stony-looking concrete walls and decorative marble bases — in other words, new buildings made to look like old ones — began to rise in American cities. These buildings were called “postmodern” because they constituted a reaction to the bold, modern, glass-and-steel ones that had been built after World War II, when it seemed that anything was possible and new technology would create a brave new world. That they rose so soon after the war was no coincidence: by the late 1960s, faith in progress had been tarnished by assassinations of public figures, the quagmire in Vietnam and riots in American cities. Social anxiety created a mood in which looking backwards seemed safer and more comforting than looking forward to an uncertain future.

Although the most visible signs of the new postmodern movement were in city centers, the first and most interesting ones actually came in houses designed by ground-breaking young architects. And while few of the houses built in the 1970s reflected postmodern ideas explicitly, these buildings had an enormous impact on architecture — and on how people thought about, and lived in, houses over the next few decades. In 1966 the American architect Robert Venturi, who had teasingly answered Mies van der Rohe’s dictum “less is more” by declaring “less is a bore,” published “Complexity and Contradiction in Architecture,” a book calling for more decoration, symbolism, color, pattern and clever references to historic structures. Old buildings were not just worth saving, he said; they could inspire new ones.

Venturi made his argument in sheet rock and wood framing as well as words. A house he built for his mother near Philadelphia “critiqued” the modern movement’s tendency to reject the past while also showing a playfulness often lost in modernist architecture. With its gabled roof and central entrance, it looks like a child’s drawing of a house, but it is not as simple as it looks. It is small, but spatially complex inside. The house looks symmetrical but, on closer inspection, isn’t. It has a traditional central staircase, but after the second floor, the staircase leads nowhere. Unlike Mies’s steel-and-glass jewel boxes, Venturi’s house is full of wit and whimsy as well as clever references to historic buildings — while still working as a house for his aging mother.

Modern architects had built many interesting houses, but these never really caught on with the general public because they looked too unusual. They were also, perhaps, too plain, subtle and modest for American tastes. During the postmodern period, however, knowledgeable, talented architects started designing houses that captured the popular imagination.



The home Robert Venturi built for his mother, Vanna Venturi, who is sitting in the doorway.






Private residence by Michael Graves. Warren, New Jersey, 1977.






A Robert A.M. Stern home in Chilmark, Martha’s Vineyard, Mass. (1979-1983).

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you dont like dynamic architecture?
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Dynamic architecture is the ugliest shit in the world.
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ehh i like moving structures...
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Skyscrapers are supposed to be strong and vertical, not wiggly and wacky and whatever you want to call that abomination. Fuck the Dubai marina.
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Skyscrapers are supposed to be strong and vertical, not wiggly and wacky and whatever you want to call that abomination. Fuck the Dubai marina.
im not sure if i agree with you on what skyscrapers should be...skyscrapers should be tall vertically continuous structures that create livable space for human beings. who says that they cant move or wiggle,hell if it was possible whose to say they shouldn't levitate. architecture has changed throughout the ages,dynamic architecture is just another step.like it or not you have to appreciate that people are actually able to build such a complex feat of engineering.
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Sorry, but giant dancing dildos violate a number of my aesthetic preferences. Some may call these types of towers "bold and innovative feats of engineering" (if I had a dime for every time I heard this one), but I call them annoying and wasteful.
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Sorry, but giant dancing dildos violate a number of my aesthetic preferences. Some may call these types of towers "bold and innovative feats of engineering" (if I had a dime for every time I heard this one), but I call them annoying and wasteful.
well of course thats your opinion and i respect that but as "wasteful and annoying" as they may be i think we can all agree that revolving and rotating floors around a non mobile core is pretty amazing.
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Agree to disagree, dude.
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Agree to disagree, dude.
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