HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > Hamilton > Urban, Urban Design & Heritage Issues


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #1  
Old Posted Apr 9, 2010, 1:10 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,157
Confederation Park Shopping Centre

Since it's been approved by both City Hall and OMB I'll create a separate thread for the Confederation Park Shopping Centre.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #2  
Old Posted Apr 9, 2010, 1:12 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,157
Smart Centres cleared to build $100M development

By Kevin Werner, News Staff
News
Apr 08, 2010
http://www.hamiltonmountainnews.com/news/article/207116

Smart Centres is already designing plans to build a $100-million commercial and retail development on Centennial Parkway and the South Service Road a few weeks after the Ontario Municipal Board dismissed two appeals from local environment groups when a settlement was reached.

“This is great news for the city,” said Ward 5 Coun. Chad Collins, who represents the area. “It will provide jobs and important tax revenue to the city.”

Hamiltonians for Progressive Development and Environment Hamilton launched appeals against council’s decision last July arguing the proposal “does not promote economic development and competitiveness through providing an appropriate mix of employment to meet long-term needs …”

HPD and EH also argued the property was only accessible by vehicle, creating acute safety problems for pedestrians and cyclists in the area. In the settlement reached between HPD, EH and Smart Centres, the development company agreed to construct a sidewalk along the east side of Centennial Parkway to the bridge, build a transit layover facility at the site, and provide up to $50,000 per year for four years to help offset the city’s transit operating costs.

EH and HPD had reached an accommodation with Smart Centres in February. Council soon approved the agreement, but it wasn’t released until last week. Smart Centres also reached a compromise last month with Purolator, which is located beside the property. Purolator, while not against the development, was concerned it would eliminate any access to its business, and had made a number of appeals to the OMB in an attempt to seek a solution.

Smart Centres is also required under the agreement to provide a detailed traffic study.

Smart Centres applied to the city in 2007 to redevelop the former Waxman scrap yard on Warrington Street.

The development includes a 120- room hotel, a Wal-Mart store, and office space. It is expected to create about 900 jobs in the retail sector and another 300 jobs in the hotel and office portion.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3  
Old Posted Apr 9, 2010, 7:49 PM
Jon Dalton's Avatar
Jon Dalton Jon Dalton is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 1,778
$100 million.... just freaking wow.

Imagine just one private construction of this magnitude that didn't totally suck?

If enough people woke up to how disgusting and wrong this is, would that money find its way to projects that build our city?
__________________
360º of Hamilton
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #4  
Old Posted Apr 9, 2010, 8:50 PM
bigguy1231 bigguy1231 is offline
Concerned Citizen
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 1,206
It's good to see it has finally been approved.

Now they can get on with approving the Fifty Rd site as well.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5  
Old Posted Apr 10, 2010, 4:06 AM
emge's Avatar
emge emge is offline
Needs more coffee...
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 837
Quick money for the city... more long-term costs and sucking more life out of existing businesses.

Sure, it may be short-term "good news" but the lack of foresight bothers me greatly.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #6  
Old Posted Apr 10, 2010, 2:59 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,157
The OMB and HPD determined that Confederation Park Shopping Centre won't do any harm to downtown's retail business. I'll look for the report so you can read for yourself.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7  
Old Posted Apr 10, 2010, 3:06 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,157
"Mr. Saulesleja’s (OMB's Land Use Consultant Planner) opinion is that the subject site is an appropriate location for the proposed development, to which all necessary services can be provided. It is a brownfield site that will be remediated to appropriate provincial standards and the proposed development will intensify its use. The proposal will facilitate development of a gateway and improve the appearance of Centennial Parkway; it will provide substantial employment to the City and will not have any significant adverse impact on the function of the Downtown, the main streets, and other commercial areas in the vicinity of the subject site. Mr. Saulesleja opined that the proposal provides an appropriate range of commercial and other employment uses and the design policies in the modified OPA 219 will provide for a visually appealing development, which is desirable as the site is a visually prominent location from the QEW and Centennial Parkway North."

http://www.omb.gov.on.ca/e-decisions...ar-24-2010.pdf
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #8  
Old Posted Apr 10, 2010, 3:45 PM
emge's Avatar
emge emge is offline
Needs more coffee...
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 837
Oh, I wasn't thinking downtown -- I was thinking of businesses more proximal to the planned development If the report says otherwise, that's one thing, but I don't think you can really help it affecting it to some extent (retail, not necessarily all "commercial")

I'm more concerned about the difficulty of accessing it, although I do think the brownfield remediation is a good thing... I just think in 20 years we're going to go "ah, this didn't help anything"
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #9  
Old Posted Apr 10, 2010, 6:34 PM
bigguy1231 bigguy1231 is offline
Concerned Citizen
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 1,206
Quote:
Originally Posted by emge View Post
Oh, I wasn't thinking downtown -- I was thinking of businesses more proximal to the planned development If the report says otherwise, that's one thing, but I don't think you can really help it affecting it to some extent (retail, not necessarily all "commercial")

I'm more concerned about the difficulty of accessing it, although I do think the brownfield remediation is a good thing... I just think in 20 years we're going to go "ah, this didn't help anything"
I understand your concerns, but 20 years from now that site could very well be something else. It's a valuable plot of land, they may decide in 10 years to tear it down and build something else.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #10  
Old Posted Apr 10, 2010, 8:24 PM
emge's Avatar
emge emge is offline
Needs more coffee...
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 837
I'm pretty sure they WILL do it in 20 years.. I just wish we could do it without the huge waste of build-and-tear-down that we do these days.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #11  
Old Posted Apr 12, 2010, 5:09 PM
Jon Dalton's Avatar
Jon Dalton Jon Dalton is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 1,778
The site might be used as the Stoney Creek GO station for the Niagara expansion. If so, they should get ShitCentres to pony up for that as well, otherwise it would be transit funding bringing people to Sprawl Mart's doorstep.
__________________
360º of Hamilton
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #12  
Old Posted Aug 8, 2011, 7:04 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,157
The foundation is starting, $700,000 worth. Building permit # 11-107244
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13  
Old Posted Aug 8, 2011, 7:20 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,157
I have a feeling a new theatre will go in this location.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #14  
Old Posted Aug 8, 2011, 11:07 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,157
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #15  
Old Posted Aug 9, 2011, 1:32 PM
palace1 palace1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 220
Is that a roundabout in the parking lot with trees and archways leading up to it (sort of like a Champs-Elysees de Walmart)?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #16  
Old Posted Aug 9, 2011, 4:39 PM
go_leafs_go02 go_leafs_go02 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: London, ON
Posts: 2,404
That roundabout should have been shifted to the south to meet up with the Centennial Parkway access.

It makes no sense really in its present location.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #17  
Old Posted Aug 9, 2011, 5:10 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,157
The Centennial entrance is probably the main entrance/exit to the centre so it's likely a two way stop to keep the traffic moving. If it was a roundabout it would likely resulted in backed up traffic along Centennial.

A traffic study was done so there's a reason for it.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #18  
Old Posted Aug 9, 2011, 5:19 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,157
The building that's north west of the Wal-Mart building looks a lot like a theatre to me, next to Warrington St.

The building at the top corner is a Hotel.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #19  
Old Posted Sep 7, 2011, 11:12 AM
markbarbera markbarbera is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 3,050
The framing is up for this shop. They look to be gunning for an opening in time for the Christmas shopping season.
__________________
"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul"
-George Bernard Shaw
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #20  
Old Posted Oct 12, 2011, 5:46 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,157
New permit, 11-110894, $8.5 million for new construction.
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > Hamilton > Urban, Urban Design & Heritage Issues
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 4:59 PM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.