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Old Posted Dec 30, 2009, 7:47 PM
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NY's Tavern on the Green restaurant bites the dust

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NY's Tavern on the Green restaurant bites the dust

By VERENA DOBNIK, Associated Press Writer Verena Dobnik, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 24 mins ago
NEW YORK – Tavern on the Green, once America's highest-grossing restaurant, is singing its culinary swan song.

The former sheepfold at the edge of Central Park, now ringed by twinkling lights and fake topiary animals, is preparing for New Year's Eve, when it will serve its last meal. Just three years ago, it was plating more than 700,000 meals annually, bringing in more than $38 million.

But that astronomical sum wasn't enough to keep the landmark restaurant out of bankruptcy court. Its $8 million debt is to be covered at an auction of Baccarat and Waterford chandeliers, Tiffany stained glass, a mural depicting Central Park and other over-the-top decor that has bewitched visitors for decades.

Even the restaurant's name is up for grabs. At stake is whether another restaurateur taking over the 27,000 square feet of space, owned by the city, can reopen as Tavern on the Green.

For 75 years, since it first opened amid the Great Depression, the Tavern has attracted clients from around the world.

"This reminds me so much of Poland!" exclaimed Vermont resident Meg Kearton as she entered for her first time in late December. "It reminds me of a restaurant in Warsaw — the grandeur and the colors."

She came for lunch a few days after Christmas, whose green and white colors fill the Tavern's year-round wonderland of lights, flowers and ornamental curved bull's-eye mirrors.

Hanging over the main Crystal Room, an all-glass dining area, is a century-old chandelier made of green glass, said to have been owned by an Indian maharajah. Two elk decked with red and green ornaments stand at the entrance, and outside is a huge King Kong topiary.

Former owner Warner LeRoy, befitting his heritage as son of a producer of "The Wizard of Oz," searched the globe for the whimsical goods after he took over the Tavern's lease in 1973. He died in 2001, and his wife, Kay LeRoy, and daughter Jennifer LeRoy are now the owners.

As the end of the family's operating license approached, the city sought competing bids.

The LeRoys lost to Dean Poll, who operates the stylish Loeb Boathouse restaurant overlooking the Central Park lake and offered to invest $25 million on Tavern renovations. The city awarded him a 20-year license in August, citing his significant capital investment and vision; the new Tavern will incorporate green building technology while a conservatory-style dining space will complement the original Victorian architecture.

Poll also plans an outdoor cafe, bicycle racks and new public restrooms.

The LeRoys, employing more than 400 unionized workers with full benefits, couldn't match that. As the recession hit, they accrued more than 450 debtors.

A spokeswoman for the company running the Tavern on the Green auction said the LeRoys couldn't be reached for comment Tuesday.

The decisive moment in the intellectual-property dispute comes in January. That's when a Manhattan federal judge will either side with the city and rule that the moneymaking name Tavern on the Green, valued at about $19 million, belongs to whomever operates the space or say the LeRoys own it.

If the city loses, Poll will use the name Tavern in the Park, creating a new menu of American cuisine with fresh seasonal ingredients and reopening by March, said his attorney, Barry LePatner.

"We're going to bring the park into the restaurant," said LePatner, by eliminating the thick shrubbery around the premises to reveal Sheep Meadow, where the animals grazed until 1934, housed in the 19th century Victorian Gothic shed that is part of the restaurant.

Everything that fills the current restaurant will be for sale starting Jan. 13, at a Guernsey's auction.

Some of the items were once a backdrop for private milestone events as well as public celebrations from film productions and political gatherings to the special carb-loading dinner on the eve of the New York Marathon.

Recently, as many as 1,500 meals could be served a day, with dinner entrees costing $26 to $42 on a menu heavy with meat and potato dishes, plus standard seafood and a few forays into foreign fare such as risotto.

Not everyone drips with praise for this "tourist trap," as one blogger on the Web site Yelp called it.

A fellow Yelp blogger didn't mince words: "Besides my risotto being just eh, and besides finding a small bug on my plate, I had a fiasco getting my jacket from the coat check."

That didn't deter a smiling Diane Allen-Smith from coming for a lunch with her husband in December, three years after their Tavern wedding, on a visit from Boca Raton, Fla.

"Our wedding food was wonderful," she said. "And we didn't have to do anything for the rest."

A New York magazine reviewer once asked, "So what if the Eisenhower-era menu is strictly an afterthought?"

But the things that annoy some about Tavern on the Green are exactly what made it irresistible to fans, including three generations of a family from New York's northern suburbs.

"My parents brought us here," said Lisa Holz, who brought along her daughters, 4-year-old Kayla and 7-year-old Erika, and her husband and parents.

It would be her last time at the old Tavern on the Green, and she got sentimental.

"When I was little," she said. "I remember getting tears in my eyes when I looked at all the lights and colors."

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Tavern on the Green: http://www.tavernonthegreen.com
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Maybe if they'd focused on the food a little bit more instead of relying on the ambiance to create an overpriced tourist trap, it would have fared a bit better in the recession.

New York has plenty of recession-resistant foodies willing to pay good money for a good meal, but this place relied too much on tourists (and the less in-the-know variety to boot) to make it.
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I've never eaten there myself. Will you personally miss it, or are you indifferent about it closing?
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This article is silly.

Tavern on the Green isn't closing. The restaurant site and restaurant name are owned by the city, and the lease was up.

The city rebidded the site lease, and another company agreed to pay more than the current owners.

That's it. The current owners can't pay the new, higher rent, and so there are new owners.
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This article is silly.

Tavern on the Green isn't closing. The restaurant site and restaurant name are owned by the city, and the lease was up.

The city rebidded the site lease, and another company agreed to pay more than the current owners.

That's it. The current owners can't pay the new, higher rent, and so there are new owners.
No, Tavern on the Green is bankrupt and will be replaced by a different restaurant in the same building.
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No, Tavern on the Green is bankrupt and will be replaced by a different restaurant in the same building.
No, this is incorrect.

One restaurant owner is being replaced by another. That's it.

The City owns the restaurant name, but are being sued by the current restaurant lessee, because they want to cash in on the name.

The bankruptcy only happened because the current lessee lost the bidding for the restaurant lease. They delcared bankruptcy to get out of their union obligations.

If they didn't declare bankruptcy, they would have huge benefits obligations once the lease was up and the restaurant transferred hands. The bankruptcy wipes out these obligations.
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Either way, whether you want to call it a closing or not, it won't be the same restaurant after December 31st. When even its furnishings are being auctioned off, it won't be the same "Tavern On the Green" or whatever else they choose to call it.
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No, this is incorrect.

One restaurant owner is being replaced by another. That's it.

The City owns the restaurant name, but are being sued by the current restaurant lessee, because they want to cash in on the name.
"The decisive moment in the intellectual-property dispute comes in January. That's when a Manhattan federal judge will either side with the city and rule that the moneymaking name Tavern on the Green, valued at about $19 million, belongs to whomever operates the space or say the LeRoys own it."

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The city rebidded the site lease, and another company agreed to pay more than the current owners.
Crawford, do you recall who ended up making the winning bid? I remember Danny Meyer and Keith McNally were both looking at it (and either one would have done a much better job with the food than the existing Tavern). The Ciprianis as well, but they're mired in so many of their own tax issues that I can't imagine they would have been selected.


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I've never eaten there myself. Will you personally miss it, or are you indifferent about it closing?
Totally indifferent. I think I went for drinks there once at a friend's work party. The lights in the garden are nice.
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I remember seeing Tavern on the Green from the outside when I was 8, but during the entire time I lived in New York, I didn't even think about it once. It's a tourist trap, even if it's supposedly pretty. It kind of ranks up there (not in quality/price but in ubiquity) with Grimaldi's Pizza for "well known tourist trap eateries", although I've been to Grimaldi's once.
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I just remember it from a 1970's era television commercial for, I think it was coffee....."We're here at New York's famous Tavern on the Green restaurant to see if....." That's all I remember.
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Grimaldi's is pretty good, at least.
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I just remember it from a 1970's era television commercial for, I think it was coffee....."We're here at New York's famous Tavern on the Green restaurant to see if....." That's all I remember.
Oh, is that what they said? I remember a commercial for I think it was Folger's, where they say something like "We went into one of New York's FINEST restaurants and replaced their coffee with Folger's Instant. Let's see what the customers had to say." And then you see supposedly hidden camera footage with quotes from the customers saying how good the coffee was or something. Ehhehehe!
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Tavern on the Green for me is forever linked to this scene in Ghostbusters

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Oh, is that what they said? I remember a commercial for I think it was Folger's, where they say something like "We went into one of New York's FINEST restaurants and replaced their coffee with Folger's Instant. Let's see what the customers had to say." And then you see supposedly hidden camera footage with quotes from the customers saying how good the coffee was or something. Ehhehehe!
All I can think of is that SNL skit with Chris Farley.


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Yes, and Sigourney Weaver's building in the movie is across the street on CPW (altered in the movie to make it look taller). Next door is the church that the Stay Puff marshmallow man stepped on...
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Haha, yep, that's all I remember it for.

My brother ate there in 2001 with his high school theatre class.
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I just find it ironic that a restuarant that was founded during the Depression couldn't survive this recession!
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I ate there once with my parents in 1985. At the time, it had been known as a place where lots of celebrities went to eat which is why I made them take me there for lunch. We didn't see anybody.

All I remember about the food is that the portions were small and the prices were big.

We also ate at the Top Of The Sixes which was the restaurant at the top of 666 Fifth Avenue. I had a fabulous view of Central Park. I believe it went out of business in the 90's. I had been there as a child back in the 1970's as well.
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We also ate at the Top Of The Sixes which was the restaurant at the top of 666 Fifth Avenue. I had a fabulous view of Central Park. I believe it went out of business in the 90's. I had been there as a child back in the 1970's as well.
It’s currently a private dining facility for top Citigroup types.

As for the Tavern, it’s a shame to see a long time icon go. I’ve personally never been there, but from what people have told me that have, it’s an ‘A’ typical eccentric eatery; meaning fancy people, high prices and small portions.

Who knows, maybe the name will once again re-emerge down the line.
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OMG - that has to be one of my top 10 favorite movie scenes of all time. I swear, it will never get old. Bill Murray and Sigourney Weaver OWN in that scene.

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