Claridge Plaza III & IV | ? m | 28 fl | Completed

[rocketphish]

I think it's time this project had it's own thread. We don't have an official development application yet (that I'm aware of, anyway), but Claridge has activated their website for this new project, including unit floorplans:

http://claridgehomes.com/s/ottawa/condos/plaza3

Here are the renderings.

Original rendering:


Latest rendering:

[Kitchissippi]

At first, I didn't get how the floorplans didn't match the rendering but now I get it: the rendering is viewed from Cumberland street not Rideau, so these twins are oriented the other way. I also have a strong suspicion that there will be a Phase 5 and 6 because the layout allows for buildings to be stuck right against the east face – check the "Fulton" unit, no windows facing east and a very thick wall.

440 sqft for the smallest unit. Hmm, that's the size of an average garage in Manotick.

[Ottawan]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

At first, I didn't get how the floorplans didn't match the rendering but now I get it: the rendering is viewed from Cumberland street not Rideau, so these twins are oriented the other way.

I think I mentioned this a while back in the other Claridge Plaza thread. Hoorah for vindication

Has anyone else noticed looking at the floor plans the way Cumberland street occasionally jumps behind the building depending on the unit you're viewing. Obviously just a mistake, but somehow one I find rather amuzing.

[Aylmer]

Oh, dear God... Why, Claridge, Why?

[waterloowarrior]

Ottawa has too many grey and beige buildings... if you stand on the lookout over the canal beside the NCC you get a panorama of boring colours

[drawarc]

Really bland having four identical buildings next door to one another.

[Luker]

Doh!

We know by now guys Claridge. Atleast its not the disaster Lebreton is... sad isnt it, lower town and Lebreton will be forever fugly for this era of Claridge Ottawa dominance. Please Domatar, Phoenix, lol who else do we have.. moe the toronto/vancity builders in please.

Also its funny Claridge is Ottawa dominant and doesn't work outside the area, maybe their admitting something... their lack of true quality or creativity or anything else other than cash grab really? ok rant over.

P.S

almost done. Atleast their more density, pushing 30 floors, and adding to the centralization effort.

[eemy]

It's too bad they aren't sticking with the original renderings. They weren't quite as boring as the new ones.

[Skyway]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

At first, I didn't get how the floorplans didn't match the rendering but now I get it: the rendering is viewed from Cumberland street not Rideau, so these twins are oriented the other way. I also have a strong suspicion that there will be a Phase 5 and 6 because the layout allows for buildings to be stuck right against the east face – check the "Fulton" unit, no windows facing east and a very thick wall.

440 sqft for the smallest unit. Hmm, that's the size of an average garage in Manotick.

and I hear starting is $170K which is pushing $400 a sq ft!

[Tor2Ott]

Originally Posted by Skyway

and I hear starting is $170K which is pushing $400 a sq ft!

That's good news for the rest of the us who already own a condo. Nowhere to go but up.

[citizen j]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Ottawa has too many grey and beige buildings... if you stand on the lookout over the canal beside the NCC you get a panorama of boring colours

Never fear!
Chances are good they'll try to amend this lack of colour with a generous helping of turquoise panels in a future rendering.

[rocketphish]

Originally Posted by citizen j

Never fear!
Chances are good they'll try to amend this lack of colour with a generous helping of turquoise panels in a future rendering.

[Rokko]

So these two building will both front onto Cumberland and face CP 2? That doesn't seem very attractive. I guess Dworkin Furs isn't going anywhere so that limits the eastern expansion so that CP 3 and 4 cannot face Rideau St. Interesting and very highly priced as well. That 440 sq ft unit is a joke!

It would be interesting to know the interest there might be for these new buildings! I think it would be far greater if the designs were similar to 160 George St....that is a beaute!

[AuxTown]

This is freakin' garbage. I'm sure you all know that I'm not too fond of CP1 and CP2, but I tolerate them because they bring density and people to the core. But to build two more almost identical towers right next door, that is ridiculous and lazy! To me this is unacceptable and Claridge should be forced to alter the designs if only a little bit more. We don't have that much height in Ottawa and to have 4 identical towers of this calibre is just embarrassing. It is only acceptable in situations such as this awesomeness:


Albany, NY


NYC

[AznHalf]

Well, I went to the pre-sale invitation for Claridge Plaza III. Here's basically the scoop. I have the pricelists and the floorplans, however, I don't know how to post those pics up if I scanned them. Any help?

I basically went to see what the comparable 2 bd + den's were from my condo in CPII. There is a very similar floorplan to mine called the Yankee that really only differs by 20 more square feet. The price of that unit on the same floor as mine was priced at $365,000. Add a parking spot for $30,000 more, so the total price is $395,000. Let's not forget that this was the first pre-launch party price and it will only be completed in 4 years, likely to be going up from that. So, I wonder what the price will be in 4 years from now, when the building is completed.

Ohhh, and not to mention that at 5:15pm they stopped all the potential shoppers and announced that they got a call from head office and all prices were being raised $10,000 at 5:30pm.

So that means that $365,000 + $10,000 + $30,000 = $405,000. In my view this price is quite high and much more than what I paid for mine in CPII. Let's say Mercedes Benz C350 or a comparable BMW 335i coupe would nicely fit into the difference in price.

IMO the price is too high for my liking, despite what developer was building (Domicile, Minto, Charlesfort etc ...), but they were selling like it was a firesale. People were scrambling to purchase, I really didn't get it. I can't really say that I was in any position to purchase a second one, but looking at this situation with the glass half full these prices will have a positive effect on my condo price in CPII. I thought my purchase was quite expensive, but in retrospect I guess I got a really good deal.

I will try to post up the pricelist and pictures as soon as someone show's me how.

[k2p]

Originally Posted by O-Town Hockey

This is freakin' garbage. I'm sure you all know that I'm not too fond of CP1 and CP2, but I tolerate them because they bring density and people to the core. But to build two more almost identical towers right next door, that is ridiculous and lazy! To me this is unacceptable and Claridge should be forced to alter the designs if only a little bit more. We don't have that much height in Ottawa and to have 4 identical towers of this calibre is just embarrassing

Yeah. What he said.

[AznHalf]

Here is the pricelist as of November 11, 2009. I will just post what is on the package I received.

Notes

- When I was there they raised the prices on all of the condo's $10,000 at 5:30pm. So you will have to add that to the final price.

- Parking available for $30,000/spot

- Parking Not Available for all Studios

- Parking not available for selected 1B and 1B+Den units from the 10th floor and below, see agent for details

- Check the website for floorplans, as they are now posted for Claridge Plaza III http://claridgehomes.com/s/ottawa/condos/plaza3/

- As it stands now it seems that the prices increase by $1,000 per floor level from the 2nd floor to the 22nd floor, unless they have the terrace balcony option - which is more.

- From the 22nd to the 26th floor the prices go up $2,000 per floor per unit.

- Condo fee's are priced at 0.36 cents per sq. ft

- Units range from the 2nd - 26nd floor + a PH1 and PH2

- I'm simply going to write the name of the unit, type, and price

PRICELIST ON CLARIDGE PLAZA III (as of November 11, 2009)

2nd Floor *** All units have terrace balcony's

Jeter w/ 37 sq. ft terrace == 2B+D == $490,000
Yankee w/ 105 sq. ft terrace == 2B+D == $360,000
Howston w/ 80 sq. ft terrace == 1B+D == $262,000
Fulton w/ 115 sq. ft terrace == 1B == $250,000
Liberty w/ 90 sq. ft terrace == 1B+D == $330,000

3rd Floor

Jeter == $487,000
Yankee == $354,000
Howston == $258,000
Fulton == $244,000
Jackson w/ 165 sq ft terrace == $350,000

4th Floor

Jeter == $488,000
Yankee == $355,000
Howston == $259,000
Fulton == $245,000
Bowery == $251,000
Canal w/ 115 sq ft terrace == 1B == $248,000
Broadway w/ 115 sq ft terrace == Studio == $180,000
Astor == 1B+D == $298,000

5th Floor

Jeter = $489,000
Yankee = $356,000
Howston = $260,000
Fulton = $246,000
Bowery = $252,000
Canal = $249,000
Broadway = Blank (weird not listed for this floor)
Astor = $299,000

6th Floor

Jeter = $490,000
Yankee = $357,000
Howston = $261,000
Fulton = $247,000
Bowery = $253,000
Canal = $250,000
Broadway = $175,000
Astor = $300,000

7th Floor - 22nd Floor - Simply add $1,000 to each unit per floor increase

22nd Floor

Jeter = $516,000
Yankee = $383,000
Howston = $287,000
Fulton = $273,000
Bowery = $279,000
Canal = $276,000
Broadway = $201,000
Astor = $326,000

23rd Floor - the Broadway and Astor units are combined to make the Bleeker unit. All other units are available Jeter, Yankee, Howston, Fulton, Bowery and Canal, continue to add the $2,000 more per floor.

Jeter = $518,000
Yankee = $385,000
Howston = $289,000
Fulton = $275,000
Bowery = $281,000
Canal = $278,000
Bleeker = 2B+D == 1185 sq. ft = $485,000

24th - 26th Floor - Add $2,000 per floor

PH1

Tribeca w/ 480 sq ft terrace = 1415 sq. ft = 2B+D = SOLD
Wall Street = 985 sq ft = 2B+D = $480,000
Times Square = 960 sq ft = 2B+D = $465,000
Bowery = 1B = $310,000
Canal = 1B = $307,000
Soho w/ 335 sq ft terrace = 1170 sq ft = 2B = $575,000

PH2

Tribeca = $700,000
Wall Street = $500,000
Times Square = $485,000
Bowery = $330,000
Canal = $327,000
Soho = $575,000

[rakerman]

man, that is some high $ per-square-footage coming from Claridge (Astor at 740sqft / $311k comes out at $420/sqft)

[CondoGirl]

Sorry guys, but I'm not following the math. $420/sqft is high for new construction, in the Market, with a delivery date of mid-2013?

Resale prices in Claridge Plaza I are currently (ie. past 2 months) ringing in at $410 to $445 per square foot. Is the assumption that condo prices won't be going up in the next three and a half years?

Nearly new 1-bed units with parking in the downtown core are already reaching $300,000 in the resale market; judging from the number of cheque books wagging about at Wednesday's launch, condo prices aren't coming down anytime soon.

[nammo]

Any storage lockers and price?