posting diagrams/pictures

omarainza · #1 Posted **Aug 10, 2009, 2:39 AM**

ok. so i have a few diagrams that i want to add to the database but i think they arent being added without a diagram because they are lowrises. how do i upload a picture into my request thread so the editors can see it?

vid · #2 Posted **Aug 10, 2009, 4:31 AM**

If you are going to upload it to the request thread, post it no larger than 1:1 scale (the size it will be when put into the diagrams) and put a watermark on it (your screen name will do, partially over-top the building's diagram but not completely covering it, so that no one can steal it.) Make sure you make a copy of the diagram to watermark, don't watermark the original and accidentally destroy it.

To host it, I suggest http://www.imageshack.us. After uploading the image, copy (highlight and ctrl+c) the topmost link (in the orange/yellow highlighted area, big text). Go to the thread creation page, hit the

button, press ctrl+v to paste it into that box, and hit enter. The image will be posted with the request.

To upload a diagram in the diagram system, you have to be logged in. Find the building's information page, in the top left of that page is "upload diagram", click on that and follow the instructions. Diagrams for the database don't need watermarks.

Make sure the image is the proper scale, where 1 pixel is 1 meter. A 29 meter high building should have a 29 pixel high diagram.

omarainza · #3 Posted **Aug 10, 2009, 11:33 PM**

ok thank you. i have to wait for my requests to be approved though and they wont because they're below the required height. they are tall buildings though even though they arent that tall. maybe 5-9 floors

Architype · #4 Posted **Aug 17, 2009, 3:06 AM**

People post drawings in this section all the time, and I don't usually see any watermarks. I guess if I am the owner of my drawing, I am free to use it however I wish, isn't that correct? It is a good idea though to only post the small versions, and perhaps add a name and copyright symbol. If people are determined to steal anything on the internet there is usually a way, legal or not. I have found my photography in some unexpected places, directly linked too, and that is somethiing you either accept or go through a lot of trouble to prevent.

vid · #5 Posted **Aug 17, 2009, 9:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by Architype

People post drawings in this section all the time, and I don't usually see any watermarks. I guess if I am the owner of my drawing, I am free to use it however I wish, isn't that correct?

Technically the site owns (or at least co-owns) the diagrams once they're uploaded.

We're also not supposed to draw for competing sites but I don't know if that applies to all illustrators or just the ones with work on the posters, etc.

SomeFormOFhuman · #6 Posted **Aug 17, 2009, 10:10 AM**

Erm, no. We're not supposed to draw for competing sites either. I drew my 40:1 scaled drawings, especially the Sears (I REFUSE to accept "Willis" Tower as a new naming) and ESB. They're technically own and like what Vid said, Co-own by Dylan, Mike, and SSP after sending them the email with my drawing attched to it...

And on a side note, man do I miss illustrating... The good thing is, third year in the polytechnic is slightly more relaxed.... and 6 week holiday is coming!! I. Am. Finally, returning! LOL.

vid · #7 Posted **Aug 17, 2009, 1:05 PM**

It will always be Sears Tower to me.

Architype · #8 Posted **Aug 17, 2009, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by SomeFormOFhuman

They're technically own and like what Vid said, Co-own by Dylan, Mike, and SSP after sending them the email with my drawing attched to it...

Since the name of the illustrator, with a copyright symbol attached, is displayed at the bottom of each drawing, doesn't that mean, we, the illustrator, hold the copyright at least in conjunction with SSP?

Do we then technically have the right of ownership (or co-ownership), and the right to post them, if not anywhere else, at least on this site ?

BTW I think of the Willis Tower for some reason as the Bruce Willis (Diehard) Tower.

SomeFormOFhuman · #9 Posted **Aug 18, 2009, 2:02 AM**

I believe so. My idea is this; you drew it, you own it too. But once you signed a contract with Dylan and Mike, they now, too, technically, own it. BTW where are the both them? I haven't seen them around lately. They can probably explain in detail.

Anyway I put copyright watermarks on my drawing when I want to show my stuff here...

EDIT: Damn, my website is down...

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Originally Posted by vid

It will always be Sears Tower to me.

Damn right.

Changing it to Willis.... It's mortal a sin. But as long as they do not paint it white. I'm fine.

Taylordaman · #10 Posted **Aug 18, 2009, 5:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by vid

Technically the site owns (or at least co-owns) the diagrams once they're uploaded.

We're also not supposed to draw for competing sites but I don't know if that applies to all illustrators or just the ones with work on the posters, etc.

Since when? I was not aware of that.

LMich · #11 Posted **Aug 18, 2009, 5:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by Taylordaman

Since when? I was not aware of that.

Neither was I. Perhaps, this was something done later in the history of the diagram when signing up?

vid · #12 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 7:16 PM**

We signed contracts. I recall something about not talking about the contracts in the contracts so I've always been vague about them. Maybe it was an email from Mike?

Anyway, it says on the contract that there must be a watermark across at least 75% of the image at an opacity no lower than 35% with "©Skyscraperpage.com" or "©Skyscraper Source Media, Inc" (the company that owns Skyscraperpage.com) below it. The text has to be at least 75% of 12 pixels high. (Weird..) By signing the contract, they own the diagrams, but they can "stop" owning them at a certain point (when the contract expires or is ended, something like that) but ultimately the illustrator owns it; but it is owned by the site as long as it is being displayed on the diagrams or being sold on a poster. This is so they can fight for us in the event of copyright infringement. (If they didn't "own" them, they would be third party to the dispute, or something?). Mike and/or Dylan will have to clear it up if it can even be discussed openly.

Not everyone signed contracts, as far as I know it's only been signed by illustrators who contributed to the posters. (Possibly only recent posters; I signed it because one of my diagrams is on the Vancouver poster.) Having all diagram illustrators sign the contracts would be a bit cumbersome.

#13 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 7:31 PM**

^^ Actually Vid, you know that this information is not to be public, managers did not allowed, because they could not contact all 600 ones all over the world. Old illustrators which were almost inactive in last years maybe were not contacted. It is not only about posters, is about diagrams security of use.

Taylordaman · #14 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 10:24 PM**

I doubt I even read the contract then.

I still don't understand this watermarking thing, either. I understand it is to protect you work, but is it mandatory? I see people posting their 1:1 drawings with watermarks over them which makes absolutely no sense.