Native protest on RedHill

[bornagainbiking]

Native protesters to close Red Hill
TheSpec.com - BreakingNews - Native protesters to close Red Hill
Six Nations activists plan 7 a.m. shutdown

John Burman
Commuter traffic on three major Hamilton routes faces major delays this morning as native demonstrators march on the Red Hill Valley Parkway, the Linc and Highway 403.

Six Nations women and their supporters say they plan to march along the three routes this morning to protest Ottawa’s decision to arm border guards.

Demonstrators are gathering in Hamilton at Queenston Road and Red Hill at 7 a.m. and then marching south on the parkway, up the escarpment and west on the Lincoln Alexander Parkway to Highway 403.

The march will then work its way west along the westbound Highway 403 to Victoria Park in Brantford.

Janie Jamieson, spokesperson for the group, said the march will be peaceful. She did not say how many marchers are involved.

Hamilton police say both the Red Hill and Linc are controlled access highways. No pedestrians allowed.

Jamieson said the march is to protest the Canada Border Services Agency decision to arm border guards at the Cornwall border station.

The demonstration in Hamilton is a “unity march against armed CBSA” and participants intend “to promote a message of peace an unity,” Jamieson said in a statement.

Jamieson said the Six Nations women believe human rights are being violated and international law being broken by Customs decision to close its station at cornwall and a bridge connecting the Akwesasne territory.

[SteelTown]

Note to self....."Don't drive on the Linc this morning"

[go_leafs_go02]

give me a break..

I don't know how or why they're allowed to do anything of this sort.

The only thing that should shut down highways and expressways are accidents and emergencies.

Absolutely ridiculous.

[matt602]

I'll say one thing, I'm a lot more favorable to native people blocking highways than I am to a certain terrorist group in Toronto.

[Jon Dalton]

Awesome.

[hammergirl]

I saw them this morning. They were going south and I was going north.

They were around Mount Albion when I saw them. I got on at Stone Church and northbound was backed up from there to past the protestors. Southbound was backed up to about King Street.

[oldcoote]

Originally Posted by matt602

I'll say one thing, I'm a lot more favorable to native people blocking highways than I am to a certain terrorist group in Toronto.

Leaf fans after a playoff win?

[matt602]

Originally Posted by oldcoote

Leaf fans after a playoff win?

I think theres more of a chance of the Gardiner collapsing onto Lakeshore Blvd than of that scenario playing out.

[Millstone]

1) This delayed a time-sensitive UPS package that had to go from Hamilton Airport to St. Catharines this morning. The trailer got caught up in the traffic. Luckily they were able to get it delivered in the late afternoon.

2) My boss was at the border crossing being "protested for" yesterday and he said it's like a couple guys with guns or something, it's being totally overblown.

[adam]

Unfortunately because of the way cities are constructed, a march along a highway is the only way to get anyone to notice you. I am sure it was more scary and inconvenient for them to march along a highway than it was for us to sit in the comfort of our cars watching them go by. Were their concerns being heard or was the march in response to them being ignored?

[bornagainbiking]

Give me a break!
There is a concern with the arming of border guards on the Canadian Border near Cornwall. A distance of approx. 522 km from Hamilton.
So some poor smuck gets up on hamilton Mtn or the drive to London/Brantford and/or dreads that daily commute to Toronto where he has to spend time on the road vs time with his family.
Yes, a guy with a JOB who pays TAXES. He may like to protest against the government who have crappy roads or no viable option to driving, like HSR or affordable Via.
But he has to go to WORK, to earn a living to afford his family and did I mention pay his TAXES for essentials like police and infrastructure (roads).
So the protesters decide to walk on an expressway (illegal) plain and simple no confusion. No one NO ONE can walk on the hiway.
So somehow this is allowed and with a police escort. I bet they were so scared to walk in front of a convoy shielded on the outside of the express lane, while truckers who earn their living delivering goods in a timely fashion and are governed by the number of hours they are allowed on the road. Crawl along spewing diesel fumes and increasing pollution as the miles of backed-up traffic fume inside and out. Why should some trucker or business man's life be disrupted or finacially affected because of this what did he do?
The media should just ignore these antics and they will have no value.
As for the general it was a 5 Sec sound bit and another issue that tears our country apart as this protest for human rights infringed on alot of others basic Human Rights like time with your family and the freedom of movement.
In the eyes of the law all people should be governed alike that is why we made the rules to guide us. justice for all.
if you have an issue with Sears in ottawa do you protest at the Canadian Tire in Saskatoon. Get real.
Your kids should be in school and you should be doing something constructive like writing the government for change, drive to Cornwall or if you are so committed walk like Terry Fox and organize a protest at the scene of the issue. The law now states CBSA will have armed personnel if they choose to wear the weapon but that is another matter.
I would like to see a walk through the reserve(s) to protest why the average Canadian is being affected by any of this. i believe that a Guy from Richmond hill (Mchale) came to show solidarity and lead protest of support and look what he got for his concern. He was arrested for inciting and is still going to court. Just a guy who voices his displeasure and comes to the scene of the issue to protest (it turns ugly) and he get arrested.
Just stop all this non sense and all parties get to the table. just remember though We are not totally responsible for the sins of our fathers.

[block43]

I can't believe the number of ignorant statements you just made in your last post, bornagainbiking.

[Jon Dalton]

yikes

[bornagainbiking]

Sorry if you are offended seriously.
I just think people should be cognizant of how their actions impact on others and why should it.
What did those people, say going on holiday do to the issue, and why they have to suffer the consequences.
We all have rights and with right goes responsibilities.
Along time ago some once told me: "Two things you don't share, second- hand smoke and your problems as I got enough of my own".
Cheers
P.S. I am just as upset and disappointed with the police for the Tamil protest on the Gardiner for the same reasons. Go and try and protest in Sri lanka and see what happens.

[bicycles]

Originally Posted by bornagainbiking

Sorry if you are offended seriously.
I just think people should be cognizant of how their actions impact on others and why should it.
What did those people, say going on holiday do to the issue, and why they have to suffer the consequences.
We all have rights and with right goes responsibilities.
Along time ago some once told me: "Two things you don't share, second- hand smoke and your problems as I got enough of my own".
Cheers
P.S. I am just as upset and disappointed with the police for the Tamil protest on the Gardiner for the same reasons. Go and try and protest in Sri lanka and see what happens.

good thing you added that ps, really clears up the fact that you're not ignorant towards one minority, but all of them! that makes it ok, right?

[block43]

I think people should educate themselves on Canadian History (outside of the euro-canadian context) and realize that:
1) First Nations People were not conquered;
2) First Nations People and European settlers negotiated a number of treaties that outline how each would respect each other as seperate "governmental bodies", see two row wampum (first nations historic document of discussions with european settlers) as an example, in which the European side has defaulted on long ago. As an aside, First Nations culture depended on an oral history and under the european oppresive culture which states that writen documentation is the only proof;
3) The assumption that first nations people are not employed and live on handouts; and,
4) that non First Nations People pay taxes and that First Nations people get a "free ride", typically people also incorrectly assume that First Nations people get free schooling.

[bornagainbiking]

According to the Spec poll, many agree with the interference with the public.
i did not read the Spec editorial prior to my post:
"These types of protest garner attention from the media and from those inconvenienced by the protest. But they beg so many questions: Why aren't arrests made when people are clearly contravening a law? What is accomplished when the average Joe or Jill hits a protest-driven traffic jam while trying to get to work? What does stalling traffic on the 403 have to do with arming border guards in Cornwall? And why would responsible adults put children at risk by taking them onto highways on foot, regardless of the importance of their cause?"
Touche.

[bigguy1231]

These issues that Natives keep protesting about are never going to be settled. They keep saying it's about the land, but they are willing to be compensated with billions in cash. So much for their concern for the land. These protests and their supposed concern for the land are nothing more than a get rich quick scheme that is going to fail. It will fail because the demands of Natives would bankrupt the country and there is no way any government will allow that to happen.

The current federal Indian Affairs budget is approximately 13 billion per year or so if I remember correctly. Add to that the billions spent over the last 142 years and I think they have been compensated more than enough for something they claim they didn't own to begin with. In Native culture they do not believe in land ownership.

As for protestors disrupting traffic and generally being a nuisance they should be arrested and charged just like anyone else would be. That goes for any protestors, not just Natives.

[adam]

I am sure the guy in the $30k vehicle isn't being adequately represented by government either, but he's too busy rushing home to watch the latest episode of mind-numbing tv to raise any concerns. Kudos to the natives who are demanding representation.