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Old Posted Dec 30, 2008, 4:16 AM
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Calgary Herald: Vancouver is all hyped up for the Olympic letdown

Vancouver is all hyped up for the Olympics letdown

By Kevin BrookerDecember 29, 2008


I've been hanging out in Vancouver recently, where the subject of the 2010 Winter Olympics is never too far from hand.

Last week, for example, it was the announcement of who didn't get what in the ticket lottery, part of a Byzantine system that, not surprisingly, nobody seems to understand or approve.

Doesn't matter, though. Pants-wetting Olympic excitement continues to run high.

As a Calgarian who did everything short of donning the Peyto-blue volunteer jacket in 1988, however, I feel it is my duty to inform British Columbians what they might reasonably expect from their 17 days under the sporting spotlight (if not under the sun; it will still be, after all, February on the wet coast).

Specifically, I'm advising them to downgrade their lofty expectations of the Olympian pomp and grandeur to come.

Because, in spite of the gauzey memories Calgarians may cherish, the Winter Olympics are just not that big a deal.

Man, do Vancouverites not want to hear that.

Do the math, I tell them. Officials and athletes together make up less than 2,500 souls.

Figure about two family members per athlete, a similar handful of corporate attendees, plus the several hundred fans who actually follow those sports in odd-numbered years.

We are thus talking about an event whose magnitude falls somewhere between the Mr. Vancouver Leather competition and the PNE.

That hasn't stopped local mandarins from using 2010 as a licence to pour concrete, a common Games-related affliction which, in retrospect, Calgary did a good job resisting.

Salt Lake City, on the other hand, tore up a perfectly good interstate highway for nearly a decade, apparently believing that Idahoans and Nevadans were about to get hot for nordic combined.

Rest assured, they did not.

On B.C.'s way to dropping $ 1.7 billion, it's looking more and more like the sustainable athlete's village featuring low-cost housing will instead morph into private-sector luxury condos subsidized by taxpayers to the tune of $100 million.

Then there's the attendance problem.

While thousands have clamoured for and even obtained tickets, how many will actually show up?

Back in '88 I sat in the Saddledome watching Elizabeth Manley do something uplifting on figure skates while, I swear, a third of the paid-for seats went unbummed.

I had no choice but to conclude that Canadians don't even like the sports Canadians like.

We saw the same thing in Beijing, where they actually resorted to having volunteers occupy sold-out but vacant stands.

I don't anticipate Lotus-landers will overcome this dilemma.

People who are rich enough to afford Olympic tourism simply have better things to do with their time than watch Italians curl against New Zealanders.

Some Vancouverites are already feeling buyer's remorse, like the guy whose Visa was dinged for 8,000 bucks, which gets him exactly four tickets for each of the opening and closing ceremonies. For that kind of cash one would hope they get Celine Dion and Madonna to front the Rolling Stones, with enough left over to bring Luciano Pavarotti back to life.

In the end, I told my Vancouver (ex-) friends, I predict that the most fun part of the next Winter Games will once again be tailgating with neighbours, trading pins, and milling around 2010's version of Olympic Plaza. Things, in short, that have little to do with such ephemera as skiing fast and shooting accurately next to shiny new infrastructure.

And that's where it might get tricky. I'm just not sure Vancouver has what it takes to eke out good times by drinking mulled wine beside the trunk of a vehicle.

The last time I took in a major sporting spectacle in Vancouver it was the 1999 Grey Cup between Calgary and Hamilton. I had always suspected Vancouver was a lame party town, but get this: B.C. Place actually ran out of beer at halftime.

Like I said, they hate hearing from me.
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The guy is an idiot really. Is he really comparing Calgary 1988 with Vancouver 2010???

As well, there are 2,800 athletes and put together there are 5,000+ athletes, coaches, and officials. The 2,500 figure he has is what CALGARY had, TWENTY-TWO YEARS AGO.

The 5,000+ doesn't include the IOC delegates, foreign dignitaries, etc. And don't forget the 10,000+ media in the city and the ~3,000 unaccredited media.

It should also be mentioned that seats aren't filled at venues, even though they are sell outs, because of scalpers, sponsors, and VIP's.

Last but not least, the guy is from Calgary.



The Winter Games may not be the Summer Games, but they are massive in their own respect and on the world scale with more than a billion viewers everyday. They are the largest sporting event after the Summer Games and World Cup.

TV ratings in Canada and America for 2010 will be massive.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 30, 2008, 5:01 AM
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No doubt, the writer is a bit of a downer. But he makes a good point: That there could be an Olympics letdown. I agree that there will likely be empty seats at some of the lower profile events. And I'm still not sure how Vancouverites are expected to participate in the Olympics festivities surrounding the Games.

One other problem I see is that folks in Vancouver don't have the same kind of rah-rah spirit as Calgarians.
     
     
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This article was from the Victoria Times Colonist, not the Herald.

He does make good points. The biggest problem with the impending Olympics is the recession. The TV ratings will be high because of it, but I think a lot of potential Olympics tourists to Vancouver may cancel their trip due to the economic downturn.
     
     
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I think that the guy from Calgary is right. This is not such a big deal for a city of this size even with the 2010 adjusted numbers. February is a dead tourist month anyway (aside from Whistler), so there will probably be more police in the city than actual guests. Besides, there will probably be a lot of people (skiers) who are specifically not going to come to Vancouver at that time of the year just to avoid the crowds, the extra security, Olympic oligarchy, the protesters and in general unnecessary hassle. As for the venues, aside from hockey and skating don't expect them to be full. Frankly, the Symphony of fire is much bigger deal than the Olympics.
     
     
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This guy sounds like an ass, he does have some good points but in general he is over negative and narrow minded. The one things that i have worried about is the recession. I fear many people wont come in order to save money and it is a bad time to advertise.
     
     
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When national really means only Toronto by Kevin Brooker

Sep 17, 2007
Source : Calgary Herald

With all the other changes that September ushers in, I've noticed another in recent years: The deepening of my love/hate relationship with Toronto.

Ah yes, the Crab Apple. Hogtown. The Big Wheezy.

Like clockwork, my bile invariably starts rising again with the monstrously overhyped Toronto International Film Festival, when every Clooney sighting becomes national news and even Calgary media carry reviews of divine Romanian coming-of-age flicks that will never appear here.

It's always a harsh reminder that even when newspapers or networks purport to be Canada's national anything, rest assured that the gang who churns them out seldom leaves the shadow of the CN Tower. Even Mississauga is only in dim focus, if at all.

Each new season of television elaborates on the concept. After all, with every last specialty channel in the country headquartered in Toronto, you've got some busy beavers out there. Need a fashion comment? Someone line up Jeanne Beker. Make sure you get Ben Mulroney in the shot. Look, there's Christine Cushing talking sports on Off The Record. Hey, guess who the guest chef is tomorrow on her cooking show. Michael Landsberg!

It's called log-rolling, and nobody does it better than Toronto. Or more un-self-consciously. Doesn't it seem odd to any of them that their so-called national networks have ads for Toronto pizza joints and political messages from Ontario premier Dalton McGuinty?

In the magazine world, autumn is also the best time for Margaret Atwood profiles. (Yeah, right. As if there is any time not supremely propitious for a Margaret Atwood profile.)

The CBC is an old hand at the game. Let's put three Toronto gasbags on a panel and call it a national discussion. Have you ever heard the radio program Sounds Like Canada? Even though they moved Sheilagh Rogers to Vancouver, it still Sounds Like Toronto.

This, of course, is not to say that Toronto lacks qualities of greatness. I lived there for a year back in 1982, having made the error of visiting in the previous June, and thinking every month would be so fine. Although I left with the belief that it's a club for the exclusive use of Queen's University grads, I do understand that it has a lot going for it.

Some things, like the transit system, are unmatched. Last month, we had a five-hour layover at Lester Pearson International. We took an express bus and then the subway downtown and got there in less than 50 minutes. Because it was a weekend, the fare was a miraculous $8.50 per family for all-day service. Queen Street was abuzz, there were several hundred thousand people on Spadina for the Chinatown Festival, and Kensington Market was at its funky best. Even the air was breathable that day. All good stuff.

But it doesn't take a long stay in Toronto to realize that this country consists of Upper Canada and Lower Canada, and we aren't in either one. I remember seeing my first red maple leaf on an autumn street and thinking, "Oh, so that's where they came up with that idea." When I later pointed out to Torontonians that it's kind of an odd choice given that Alberta, and presumably other regions, don't have maple trees, their reply was to the effect of, "Meh. What are you gonna do?"

Good question. I guess I'll carry on with the collective presumption that everyone summers in their cottage up north, that Tim Horton's is a sacred trust, and that the Royal Canadian Air Farce is worth renewing for thousands of seasons to come.

I suppose I'll also have to sit down for the upcoming 13 episodes of the new CBC-TV series Heartland, featuring a variety of Toronto actors playing cowboy in the mythical southern Alberta town of Hudson.

What a gallant way of saying that, while we are happy to bestow the honourific of heartland on you, don't kid yourself. We'll still run the show.

Kevin Brooker is a Calgary writer.

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Indeed he is. Or used to be quite recently. I used to listen to his radio show he co-hosted on the U of C campus radio station (CJSW) and he probably is still on. I liked the commentary he had on things in between music but I've never liked his articles as they're really quite negative and cynical. But that's just me....
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It is still disingenuous to say the Calgary Herald said this. Only unnamed editorials officially come from the Calgary Herald. You could say "Canwest columnist from Calgary:..." or "Victoria Times Colonist:..."

In anycase, who cares?

As for ratings (share of tv audience, full 2 weeks):
Nagano 19%
Salt Lake City 38%
Torino 12.3%

I am sure NBC hopes that being in a good time zone will cause SLC like ratings, but I doubt it. SLC was built up as a nation coming together after the 9/11 attacks, and it is unlikely these games will reach such lofty heights in the USA.
     
     
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^ perhaps not as high as SLC, but considering that we're in a recession, the U.S. is in a suitable time zone with the Games, and that 2010 has so far been quite popular with Americans I would think we'd beat the Nagano and Torino viewer share easily....perhaps as high as the high-20s?
     
     
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The writer's right but he's interpreted the situation incorrectly. We might not be a party town but that's because I think we have a few options on what to do. Mulled wine and tailgating? I would never be interested in that.

I could say the exact things about Calgary if I took all his examples of why Vancouver sucks and replaced it with things like....sushi, fashion, urban culture, etc. He's pretty much saying Vancouver's not a party place because we don't have things that Calgary has - another one of those city vs. city things that I thought we tried to avoid in these forums.
     
     
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Agreed.
     
     
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such an unnecessarily bitter article
     
     
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Mulled wine at Robson Square would be awesome.
     
     
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such an unnecessarily bitter article
I would say he's a bit of an ass for trying to throw cold water on it.
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from the article posted above;

"The last time I took in a major sporting spectacle in Vancouver it was the 1999 Grey Cup between Calgary and Hamilton. I had always suspected Vancouver was a lame party town, but get this: B.C. Place actually ran out of beer at halftime".

to quote an event that took place 10 YEARS ago is pretty lame and really seems like he's drawing straws here.

too bad canada isn't behind us more with these olympics. that's one thing i found really nice about Beijing. you felt like the entire country was behing them. here, it only seems like envy. but at the end of day, i'm confident vancouver will make canada proud.
     
     
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