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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 4:18 AM
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Bowen Island gets two commuter ferry services

Bowen Island gets two commuter ferry services

James Weldon, North Shore News
Published: Wednesday, November 05, 2008


Ambleside may soon be getting its own ferry connection to Downtown Vancouver if a company starting up a new service on Bowen Island gets its way.

Coastal Link Ferries, which started delivering foot passengers directly from Bowen Island to Coal Harbour Oct. 29, plans to expand its service to include a stop in West Vancouver en route some time next year. The change would mean Ambleside commuters could get from the North Shore to the city centre in just about 10 minutes.

"It's essentially a bus on the water," said Peter Green, marketing and communications director for Coastal Link. "Those who've done test runs with us have learned it's a beautiful trip (and) it's very quick."



COASTAL Link's boat holds 65 passengers and will initially run one round-trip a day.

The company is one of two to appear almost simultaneously last week offering new connections from Bowen to the city. Just 24 hours after Coastal Link's Oct. 28 announcement, another service called Granville Island Water Taxi made public its intention to do the same thing to a slightly different destination, running passengers from Bowen to Granville Island and back beginning Nov. 1.

Both enterprises are looking to cash in on the perceived frustration with transit service among Bowen Island's 3,500 residents.

As it stands, islanders must travel by B.C. Ferry to Horseshoe Bay, then either drive or bus through West Vancouver and over the Lions Gate Bridge to downtown, a journey that can take as much as two hours.

B.C. Ferries foot passengers pay about $10 for a round trip, and vehicle passengers up to $30 on top of that. They must also keep their travel to within a relatively restricted timeframe, as the vehicle ferry only runs from about 5:30 a.m. to 10 p.m.

The two new businesses hope to benefit from those limitations.

"There's just a big need from a commuter foot passenger point of view," said Kelli Turner, owner of Granville Island Water Taxi. "Residents are getting frustrated with the late ferries and inconsistencies."

How the businesses managed to choose virtually the same start date was unclear, but Green suggested they were both natural outgrowths of demographic change. The problems with commuting from Bowen have always been there, he said, but population growth on the island has only now made it viable for a private ferry service to step in. It has also been boosted by rising gas prices, which have made it less appealing to drive, added Green.

While the two companies will be covering similar routes, the services will differ in several ways. As one goes to Coal Harbour and the other Granville Island, they will be targeting opposite sides of the downtown core. Coastal Link's boats will hold 65 passengers and run once in the morning to Vancouver and once in the evening back to Bowen (although it plans to expand to up to eight round trips daily). Its competitor takes just 12 passengers, but offers runs almost hourly between 6:30 a.m. and 11:30 p.m.

Both will take about half an hour to cross (rising to 45 minutes for Coastal Link if and when it adds a stop in Ambleside). Tickets from the island to the city and back will be in the $20 to $25 range, depending on the number bought.
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 6:25 AM
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Will make for a nice Bowen Island day trip next spring/summer.
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It would be a great idea from Gibsons and Sechelt aswell.
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No berth at TransLink for Bowen ferry

James Weldon, North Shore News
Published: Wednesday, December 17, 2008


A company that plans to start up a ferry service from Ambleside to downtown says its efforts are being thwarted by a lack of co-operation from TransLink.

Coastal Link Ferries, which started running foot passengers between Bowen Island and Vancouver in October, says leasing a berth on a disused dock next to the southern SeaBus terminal is pivotal to its plans for expansion to other areas, including West Vancouver. But despite submitting a proposal in response to a TransLink request, the company's efforts have been shot down without explanation, it says.

"They just said: 'We didn't get everything we wanted. We're just going to close the door,'" said Peter Green, marketing and communications director for the company.

Coastal Link is one of two private companies to launch foot-passenger ferry service from Bowen Island to downtown in the fall. The second company, Granville Island Water Taxi, runs a 12-seat shuttle from Bowen to a dock on Granville Island, while Coastal Link runs a 65-seater to the Vancouver Public Dock in Coal Harbour.

The Coal Harbour berth is not a great arrangement, however, because it gets busy with other traffic in high season, according to Coastal Link. It also lies some distance from the nearest transit hub.

If the service were allowed to use a vacant dock on the west side of the SeaBus terminal, it could connect directly with the SkyTrain and other elements of the transit system, making it a more viable option for commuters.

In June, TransLink issued a call for proposals for the use of that berth, and Coastal Link was the only company to respond. TransLink asked for clarification on two occasions subsequent to that -- which Green said he provided -- but the authority made no further inquiry. On Nov. 4, TransLink withdrew the offer.

"It was cancelled because the response we received was just not compliant," said Ken Hardie, a spokesman for the authority. "We have certain criteria that have to be met, and we didn't receive what we needed."

But Coastal Link insists it supplied everything that was asked for. "At no time after (the second request for clarification) did they write to us and say: 'You're missing this; you're missing that,'" said Green.

Until the matter can be sorted out, plans for an Ambleside link appear to be up in the air.

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doesn't surprise me one bit that Translink wouldn't allow them to use the unused berth at a Tranlink facility. essentially, Translink is seeing them as competition, even though they don't operate a similar service.
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Translink should run a SeaBus route from Ambleside to Waterfront Station. That area is quite densely populated with people who often commute downtown. I'm sure it would be very successful.
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The problem is the bus would almost always be much faster.
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what is it with this red tape.

come on now, either let this company in or get a seabus to do it yourself!

If this is to truly be a world class METROPOLITAN AREA, then we need to start acting like it, especially when it comes to commerce! Why the hell should Translink be allowed to act like this?

Come on now, Translink does not own that pier and should not dictate who docks there if they aint willing to provide the service!!!

Honestly, there should be a passenger ferry service to downtown Victoria as well! Demand could dictate frequency of sailings!!
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The problem is the bus would almost always be much faster.
That would be true if they used the same boats as the current seabus but a high-speed catamaran could make the trip in about 10min or less.
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The problem is the bus would almost always be much faster.
i agree. either of the buses running from Ambleside to downtown would be faster than SeaBus from Ambleside to downtown.

and i also agree that Translink should either let these guys have their berth there or start running a commuter ferry to Bowen Island.
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Translink should run a SeaBus route from Ambleside to Waterfront Station. That area is quite densely populated with people who often commute downtown. I'm sure it would be very successful.
there was a plan or talk of some service from ambelside to JEricho beach area - so it could serve UBC - but people didn't like it on the jericho beach side
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It would be a great idea from Gibsons and Sechelt aswell.
The passenger only ferry service (Coastal Link), which is now serving Bowen Island, was created for servicing commuter traffic between the Sunshine Coast and downtown Vancouver. By "created" I mean even the boat the operator is now using was custom made for the sole purpose of bypassing/competing with BC Ferries by offering an alternate passenger only service to the residents of the Sunshine Coast. The ferry was supposed to run several times a day leaving from the Government Dock in Gibsons (located slightly downhill from Molly's Reach) to/from the Sails/Canada Place in downtown Vancouver ... problem was/is the useless politicians here in Gibsons didn't have the foresight to cut a good moorage deal, and tax incentives, with the ferry operator so he basically said "screw off" to the Sunshine Coast and relocated his service to Bowen Island ...
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^ The good news is that Coastal Link is going to be putting two more passenger ferries into service, so at least one of them will be doing the Gibsons-downtown Vancouver run. Another run is slate for Port Moody.

And eventually, they will be doing a run between Vancouver and Nanaimo.

Let's hope Coastal Link and TransLink can come to some kind of agreement on that unused space at the Seabus Terminal.
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there was a plan or talk of some service from ambelside to JEricho beach area - so it could serve UBC - but people didn't like it on the jericho beach side
Now that would be something useful (for me)! Perhaps only summertime service. But I would love it, being able to bypass the traffic disaster in downtown and get to Kits. Probably impractical too though, but I'd be happy......and that's what counts right? lol
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