Edmonton-Nisku-QE II freeway plans

liferanger · #1 Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 3:04 AM**

Hey everyone, just stumbled on a PDF from Alberta Transportation...they are in plans for this a/n corridor and here is a proposal of one of the interchanges of QEII and a newly proposed E/W freeway just north of the Airport....

This would be very timely considering the new CPR intermodal etc...

http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/INFT...II-BOARD-1.pdf

e909 · #2 Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 3:17 AM**

it's a start

EdmTrekker · #3 Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 3:37 AM**

Planning Schedule Extended now ongoing to past Leduc - Highway 2ALets pray for (1) more lanes, (2) a proper overpass at airport (3) lighting!!!!!!!!!!

Planning extension:
http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/INFT...D-progress.pdf

project Website:
http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/INFT...on/qe2plan.htm

Hardhatdan · #4 Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 3:39 AM**

How about extending it into the City aka free flow to Downtown!

e909 · #5 Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 3:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hardhatdan

How about extending it into the City aka free flow to Downtown!

we might have an interchange on 34 ave by 2050 at this rate

craner · #6 Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 6:12 AM**

Looks pretty cool - would definitely make the approach to Edmonton from the south (as most do) feel more "big time".
I'm not sure what the need for the east-west freeway is exactly. How far east and west would it run ?

Hardhatdan · #7 Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 6:31 AM**

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Looks pretty cool - would definitely make the approach to Edmonton from the south (as most do) feel more "big time".
I'm not sure what the need for the east-west freeway is exactly. How far east and west would it run ?

My understanding is it would be the next ring road.
This interchange isn't any bigger than Anthony Henday and Gateway is it?

rapid_business · #8 Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 6:34 AM**

/\ I think that plan is LOOONG term... as in 25 years out. It's part of the even greater ring-road plan if I am not mistaken. (aka, ring-road #2)

vaportrail · #9 Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 2:57 PM**

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My understanding is it would be the next ring road.
This interchange isn't any bigger than Anthony Henday and Gateway is it?

The QEII/ring road 2 interchange is considerably more complex than the AH/Gateway interchange in that the diagram depicts the QEII having main lanes and feeder lanes - both connecting to ring road 2 - and even a third set of lanes at the cloverleaf. Deluxe 401 kinda stuff. That'll be decades from now.

But we heard a short time ago that the 41 Avenue SW interchange would be developed in the near future as part of a federal transportation program.

rapid_business · #10 Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 3:15 PM**

/\ you are correct. It will all be part of the new Intermodel site there.

codeman9669 · #11 Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 4:03 PM**

Wow, looks like there will be some major road realignment - no wonder they arent jumping on lighting the existing highway!

Looks like Gateway Park will disappear, too. Which is probably ok, because it isnt in the greatest spot at the moment (from a traffic movement perspective, anyways!)

0773|=\ · #12 Posted **Jun 21, 2007, 3:03 AM**

I'm curious why they've reserved all the R/W for a collector-distributor style highway all these years, only to realign the highway in these study plans. Wouldn't it make more sense to demolish gateway park and run express lanes down the existing median?

In case anyone's curious about what the "outer" ring road might look like, here's the most recent recommendation made by Alberta Transportation:

http://www.altaroads.ca/ERRRCS-Recommendation.pdf

craner · #13 Posted **Jun 21, 2007, 4:01 AM**

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I'm curious why they've reserved all the R/W for a collector-distributor style highway all these years, only to realign the highway in these study plans. Wouldn't it make more sense to demolish gateway park and run express lanes down the existing median?

In case anyone's curious about what the "outer" ring road might look like, here's the most recent recommendation made by Alberta Transportation:

http://www.altaroads.ca/ERRRCS-Recommendation.pdf

Thanks for the link. I think the southern portion would be better if they moved it further south to give the airport quick access to it. It could also incorporate highway 60 as it's already twinned is it not ? Just my opinion - I guess they have to build it where they have the 'right-of-way'.
This is the first I've heard of an 'outer' ring road. Doesn't the city want an 'inner' ring road as well - Whitemud-170st-Yellowhead- 50st? on the east.
I'll search the link but does anyone know if there is an 'outer' ring road planned for Calgary too ?

feepa · #14 Posted **Jun 21, 2007, 2:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by craner

Thanks for the link. I think the southern portion would be better if they moved it further south to give the airport quick access to it. It could also incorporate highway 60 as it's already twinned is it not ? Just my opinion - I guess they have to build it where they have the 'right-of-way'.
This is the first I've heard of an 'outer' ring road. Doesn't the city want an 'inner' ring road as well - Whitemud-170st-Yellowhead- 50st? on the east.
I'll search the link but does anyone know if there is an 'outer' ring road planned for Calgary too ?

I don't really think the inner ring road needs to be done. Whitemud is good enough as it is (once they re-engineer that tewillegar / fox drive area to 3 lanes...change the ramps) Yellowhead should be finished so that there are no more lights...
A major north south freeway should be built, but it should go through the middle through downtown...

170st/50st should be left as they are... theres no real way to fix them anyways...(without lots of cash)

rapid_business · #15 Posted **Jun 21, 2007, 3:41 PM**

but a N/S DT-centered freeway wouldn't cost a ton??? I see the logic o your statement, but it would be bloody expensive no matter how you look at it.

Coldrsx · #16 Posted **Jun 21, 2007, 4:08 PM**

we definately need a better inner ring road....75st needs to be 6 lanes from whitemud to yellowhead, but that is going to be difficult now.

170st needs to be more free flowing, as does yellowhead.

feepa · #17 Posted **Jun 21, 2007, 4:44 PM**

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we definately need a better inner ring road....75st needs to be 6 lanes from whitemud to yellowhead, but that is going to be difficult now.

170st needs to be more free flowing, as does yellowhead.

I think a n/s route between 97 st (hwy28) in the north and Calgary Trail (hwy 2) in the south should be completed, including a new bridge over the river, before we work anymore on 170st and 50st...

170st isnt even hwy 2 anymore, as AHD has taken over that.

CMD UW · #18 Posted **Jun 21, 2007, 10:34 PM**

We don't need a north-south FREEWAY into downtown. Calgary doesn't have a north-south freeway neither does Vancouver and they are doing fine. What we do need is a new and improved river crossing, improved / reduced direct access to Gateway to improve freeflow. That's it.

feepa · #19 Posted **Jun 21, 2007, 10:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by CMD UW

We don't need a north-south FREEWAY into downtown. Calgary doesn't have a north-south freeway neither does Vancouver and they are doing fine. What we do need is a new and improved river crossing, improved / reduced direct access to Gateway to improve freeflow. That's it.

and thats exactly what I'm talking about..

Not a full fledged freeway...but reduced direct access... less lights...and a new bridge... this is required before 75th/50th and/or 170st and I dont think those 3 need much improvements ... IMO.

Hardhatdan · #20 Posted **Jun 21, 2007, 10:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by CMD UW

We don't need a north-south FREEWAY into downtown. Calgary doesn't have a north-south freeway neither does Vancouver and they are doing fine. What we do need is a new and improved river crossing, improved / reduced direct access to Gateway to improve freeflow. That's it.

I'm talking about some sort of improvement to the flow for maybe 2 lanes...express lanes and then dipping down before Whyte and popping out onto a new bridge. THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!