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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 5:17 AM
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Seattle Central Library Review in the P-I - Now the Critic Doesn't Like It as Much

This was in the P-I on Tuesday. I disagree with his assessment. I still really like the building. I was up in the 10th Floor Reading Room today and it remains one of my favorite spaces in Seattle. In my opinion the building continues to exhibit the transformative power of great architecture.

Tuesday, March 27, 2007 · Last updated 7:17 a.m. PT
On Architecture: How the new Central Library really stacks up
By LAWRENCE CHEEK
SPECIAL TO THE P-I

Three years after the Seattle Central Library opened to starbursts of praise, including mine, I am trying to understand why, when I need to spend a working day at a library, I retreat to the Bellevue Regional instead of Seattle's downtown flagship.

And why, after guiding at least a dozen out-of-town guests through it, I'm becoming less enthusiastic about Seattle's crystal palace on each successive visit.

It's time for a reconsideration -- something like what architects call a post-occupancy evaluation, which looks at how a building is working for people in everyday use. This one, however, won't rag on the library's already well-documented functional shortcomings, such as the unwieldy and baffling vertical traffic flow. Instead, we'll venture into a region few architects know how to talk about: how a building feels.

This one feels, in varying places, raw, confusing, impersonal, uncomfortable, oppressive, theatrical and exhilarating. Ponder any spot in this vast building, and two, three or more of those adjectives inevitably swirl together. That's the first indicator of trouble. If this building were fulfilling the showers of acclaim heaped onto it, all we'd be talking about is joy.

This library, incredibly, is an uncomfortable place to read. The third-level "Living Room," which has the feel of a vast indoor park, is not conducive to intimacy with a book. It harvests and energizes routine noise; conversations from hundreds of feet away coalesce as ambient babble. The vast overhead space, a thrill to library visitors, works against readers -- most of us instinctively crave small, private spaces when curling up with a book. And "curling up" here is no fun. The foam seats are decidedly unpleasant and are looking shabby -- cracked, torn, stained -- after three years.

The 10th-floor reading room is quieter, more intimate, and yet more stimulating. Punched into the city skyline like a rhomboid treehouse, it connects startlingly with Seattle's urban energy. That may be a positive environment for the digestion of knowledge here in the 21st century. But once the exhilaration subsides, the truth emerges: The room is badly designed and cheesily detailed. The drab plastic study cubicles fail to resonate with the jazzy character of the building envelope. The shin-high steel fences built around the slanting structural I-beams to avert head-bonking look like improvised fixes for a problem nobody anticipated. The "sustainable" flooring, made of lumber-mill scrap, looks scrappy indeed. It's the sort of finish you'd use in the office of a low-budget warehouse, not a basilica of knowledge.

And here's a hardly forgivable functional miscue: If you're spending the day studying or reading on the 10th level, the nearest restroom is on the seventh.

One of the library's most touted innovations was the spiral stacks spanning the sixth through ninth levels, a continuously unfolding ribbon of books instead of the traditional separation by floors. "The subjects form a coexistence that approaches the organic," enthused Rem Koolhaas' Office for Metropolitan Architecture in a brochure published for the 2004 opening. The architects' theory is seductive, but in practice the organic ribbon is no easier for the user to negotiate than discrete floors, and in some cases it may be harder. It's relentlessly monotonous and there are few attractive study niches.

The fifth-level "Mixing Chamber," or reference/computer nexus, is a profoundly dreary and depressing environment. The 120-odd computer stations are jammed together in regimental rows that offer little privacy and exude a funereal mood. It would feel bleak even as an insurance-claim processing office.

I'm beginning to suspect that the building's celebrated splotches of weirdness -- the red sea-monster-bowel corridors on the fourth level, the bile-yellow elevators and escalators, the vertiginous canyon overlooks on the upper levels -- exist to draw attention away from the fact that most of its work and pleasure spaces are actually cheaply finished or dysfunctional. And that the building's working viscera are failing at fulfilling the promise of its stunning skin.

The Central Library hasn't stumbled in its iconic mission, not at all. It has energized our urban center more than any building in Seattle's history. It has launched both the image and substance of the Seattle Public Library into a new era.

Its provocation has infused us with new thinking about the possibilities of architecture and urbanism, far more than the Space Needle and Experience Music Project ever did. The Needle is beautiful and EMP is bizarre, but the Central Library has both of these qualities plus a visible structural integrity that seems almost spiritual. We feel these qualities at gut level when we walk around the building or wander through as sightseers. It's only when we settle in for a day's real library work that the design failures suddenly intrude.

A building can be great and still have glaring functional flaws -- in fact, great buildings always do. An inspirational space usually works at cross purposes to efficient function, but when it's overwhelmingly good, its art trumps the shortfall of craft. There's something missing from the art in this building, and it's so basic and simple that it can be captured in one word: warmth.

A great 21st-century library building should stretch our imaginations and aspirations beyond the book-centered technology of the past, and this one certainly does. But we depend on buildings to remind us from where we've come as well as where we might go. The Central Library breaks so radically with the character of the traditional public library that nothing remains as an anchor except the books themselves -- and they seem almost like afterthoughts, dust specks adrift in deep space. This library feels communal and theatrical instead of personal and contemplative, focused so outwardly on the world that it has no time for the individual.

And people are feeling the slight. My mostly laudatory appraisal at the one-year mark (June 2005) drew some vigorous rebuttals in private e-mails, which I saved because they thoughtfully expressed the embryonic doubts I was beginning to have.

"The library is a building we are all 'trying' to like," wrote one reader. "What gets in the way? ... large spaces that are unusable ... spare if not barren spaces ... the triumph of an architect's style over respect for the character of Seattle."

Another, more bluntly, accused: "You and other critics have been had. From the tip of this glass squeeze box to the bowels of its red metal stomach, this library is a joke, a monument to the architects' vanity, to the critics' collective vanity, to a city's greedy desire to be noticed. And noticed not for achievement, not for actually doing anything, but for looking cool."

To cast it in the passive-voice construction so beloved of recent presidents and cabinet members: A mistake has been made.

Lawrence W. Cheek is a freelance writer on architecture and author of "Frank Lloyd Wright in Arizona." Contact him at [email protected].
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 5:27 AM
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I think the building is aging quite well. Just one example - I'm surprised/impressed that the wood paneling along the escalator going from 4th to 5th Ave hasn't been hugely damaged by petty vandalism. Also the exterior has been quite free of graffiti and is being maintained decently.

I still think it's lame that at the lowest floor of the spiral you have to use an egress stairwell to get down to 5th Ave. Overall, a cool library that serves a wide variety of non-working people - and some that do have jobs.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 5:29 AM
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I Do not agree with this Article!! There are so many reasons the library is awesome. I love the Tenth Floor..Escalators...Magazine area....Open spaces..Its Beautiful.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 7:31 AM
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He's one of those people who drive their car to it. That's so 1990s. Seattle is more and more about transit into and out of downtown. Oh and it still does welcome cars but no longer guarantees ease of use.

Now about the library architecturally. It's a great building inside and out.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 8:02 AM
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I think they were trying too hard with it.

The first couple of times I saw it in person, I just couldn't help but to laugh.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 9:53 AM
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I don't think it's trying too hard. Many people complain that homeless hang out in the library and they tried to make it in hospitable to that. They did a very good job. The homeless are people too.

Then again, it's a wild and crazy building, something that Seattle lacks anymore with so much dull "safe" or "proper" architecture.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 4:09 PM
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When you go to Europe you will find buildings like this...wild and crazy buildings..I love the extreme shapes, yet they still make it comfortable.
And who takes a car to the Library... Take transit!
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 4:50 PM
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Lawrence Cheek's review is harsh, but his main criticism of the library, aside from the fact that the 10th floor (8th and 8th also?) has no restroom, is that the library isn't a comfortable place to read. That's a serious problem. I wonder if that's Cheek's own unique experience, or if other library patrons are finding that to be the case.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 5:15 PM
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I am a fan of the architecture but I have to agree with many of his points of view concerning the interior layout and "feeling".
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 6:45 PM
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Hey, he does not like it anymore, but I still LOVE it. I do agree about the last spiral not leading to an escalator, but otherwise it is one of the best projects by Rem Koolhas.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 7:12 PM
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I find it really easy to read there. I've spent time doing so in a number of locations in the building, with the 10th Floor Reading Room being my favorite. I think he's looking for an "old school" library experience where you can find a dark corner to hole up in for the day. That's just not how the Central Library was designed.

I don't think the number of restrooms is unreasonable. I can't think of another large building where you would expect them on every floor. Even large commercial buildings that are open to the public only have them on certain floors (Macy's, Pacific Place, etc.).

I also like the way the book spiral works. I find it really easy to use.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 7:27 PM
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the first time i went there i was a little confused by the spiral, because i'd never been in a library with one. after a few seconds though anyone can figure out what's going on with it. now i think it's easier. i'll bet the reason he goes to the bellevue one is because there's less traffic in and there's less homeless people, he just wanted materiel for a piece. if he complained about traffic and bums he'd then be your average whiney seattleite
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I actually find the exterior to be much more inhospitable than the interior which I kind of like, that said I haven't ever read a book in the library, just wandered around it. My opinion on this building keeps changing, but now for the most part I like it. If you were going to insert a building like this into an urban area, this is probably the best location where it is surrounded by other massive and somewhat oppressive office towers.

I am very glad that Cheek is bringing up this issue that a building has to feel right to its users yet few prominent architects put the users first when designing a major building. Maybe 6 months ago this same guy wrote an article that the way skyscrapers meet the street is perhaps the most important and neglected part of skyscraper design today.

Maybe what Cheek is getting at is that this building isn't perfect despite IMO its rather excessive praise that portrayed this building as the absolute perfect building when it opened from just about every architecture critic in the country.
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Seattle usually doesn't get an inch in architecural praise nationally or globally and there are always different tastes in design, thankfully. If I lived or worked nearby, I might hang out in the library more.

This is a great big city downtown library. Super cozy neighborhood libraries (which are getting redeveloped/new buildings with the same tax money that brought the central) have their place, but not as the central downtown library.

Oh and this critic can't seem to find the libraries in his own city - Magnolia, Capitol Hill, Rainier Valley/Columbia City libraries... driving miles over to Bellevue.
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The Seattle Library is one of the most intuitive buildings I've ever experienced. It's definitely one of the most striking pieces of architecture on the West Coast. People drive to Seattle just to walk through it.
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Honestly, I think this is another case of Lesser Seattle rearing it's ugly head during an up-cycle. Every time this town has a boom going on, these critical over-thinkers start nitpicking at Seattle's progress.

The library debuted in the early 00's when this region was still reeling from the dot.com bust. Seattle's ego was seriously bruised from that as well as the WTO riots, the cancelled milenniumm party and the fucked up violence during mardi gras.....how soon we all forget.
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I think the library was built quite a bit after the .com bust. Seriously, this is one person's opinion....just like all the opinions of those on this forum.. all you can do is agree to disagree. How many differing opinions are out there concerning the EMP?
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The library opened up in 2004 when the city and the region had yet to recover from the bust. I moved here in early 2004 and phrases like "the economy is bad, jobs are hard to find" were still on people's lips. The city was still cutting back on spending, etcetera.
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We toured the library today during the forum meet-up. It seemed as functional and purposful as ever. It certainly didn't seem "echoey" and the noise factor seemed pretty minimal.
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Wasn't the library's unique glass sheathing designed specifically to maximize the admittance of natural light into library, enhancing the reading experience there? (and saving energy I suppose). I wonder how this is working out.
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