St. Pauls at the Jim Pattison Medical Centre | U/C

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by madog222

It sounds like the CSRC may be built with mass timber to some extent.


https://canada.constructconnect.com/...pauls-hospital

I sort of got the impression they were just talking about the wood first approach they took for the main hospital as well?

Here's the matrix for inclusion of wood on the main hospital:

https://thenewstpauls.ca/wp-content/...ersions-v1.pdf

Shown is a rendering of the building. The design will incorporate natural tones, including wood, in alignment with the B.C.’s wood-first initiative, and draw from the natural history of the site and local First Nations.

“While the materiality of the building is still in development, the overall intention is to harmonize the City of Vancouver’s material design guidelines with Providence’s Indigenous design guidelines and the design of the hospital itself,” explains Bagan. “The design of the CSRC building draws primarily from the natural history of the site, once tidal flats on the shores of False Creek, and a rich source of food, safety and sustenance for the peoples of the host nations.”

[Changing City]

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[madog222]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I sort of got the impression they were just talking about the wood first approach they took for the main hospital as well?

Here's the matrix for inclusion of wood on the main hospital:

https://thenewstpauls.ca/wp-content/...ersions-v1.pdf

The use of wood in the hospital proper is just finishings, not structural. This is the sentence that suggests to me the structure will be something other than the de facto standard of concrete column and slab.

"The base of the Clinical Support and Research Centre will be comprised predominantly of reinforced concrete."

The exception that proves the rule.

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by madog222

The use of wood in the hospital proper is just finishings, not structural. This is the sentence that suggests to me the structure will be something other than the de facto standard of concrete column and slab.

"The base of the Clinical Support and Research Centre will be comprised predominantly of reinforced concrete."

The exception that proves the rule.

A project I am involved with, we had to pivot from mass timber to steel/concrete when an adjacent proposed wet lab building was merged into it.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by madog222

The use of wood in the hospital proper is just finishings, not structural. This is the sentence that suggests to me the structure will be something other than the de facto standard of concrete column and slab.

"The base of the Clinical Support and Research Centre will be comprised predominantly of reinforced concrete."

The exception that proves the rule.

Found a reference to mass timber for the 2nd phase of the St Pauls Project. Page 27

- the 2nd phase of the New Saint Paul's Hospital
A briefing note with cost premium analysis for mass timber was provided on July 21, 2020

http://docs.openinfo.gov.bc.ca/Respo...2021-14433.pdf

And this:

The province also required the use of engineered wood where possible in the construction of the new St. Paul’s Hospital and other provincial builds.

https://www.westerninvestor.com/brit...ruptcy-6911477

[madog222]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Found a reference to mass timber for the 2nd phase of the St Pauls Project. Page 27

http://docs.openinfo.gov.bc.ca/Respo...2021-14433.pdf

Great, thanks for digging that up.

[madog222]

9th floor has been poured.


https://mds.multivista.com/index.cfm...E-2FCBF52F03B5

[Capitol Hill]

How many square meters is this hospital, it looks massive.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by Capitol Hill

How many square meters is this hospital, it looks massive.

120,000sqm for the hospital on its own, there will also be an attached research centre for another 34,000sqm which should start construction in the next year or two.

[Capitol Hill]

Originally Posted by madog222

120,000sqm for the hospital on its own, there will also be an attached research centre for another 34,000sqm which should start construction in the next year or two.

Thanks for the info, it’s rare to see a whole new hospital built.

[madog222]

Provincial budget lists the CSRC for 2029 completion.

[urbanight93]

I'm curious about the eventual impact of this hospital on the adjacent neighbourhood. Hopefully the influx of new medical staff and employees creates a pull for new business and housing as well as stronger support for existing business with this critical mass.

I can imagine new services being required in the immediate vicinity, like perhaps a grocery store that's open later.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by urbanight93

I'm curious about the eventual impact of this hospital on the adjacent neighbourhood. Hopefully the influx of new medical staff and employees creates a pull for new business and housing as well as stronger support for existing business with this critical mass.

I can imagine new services being required in the immediate vicinity, like perhaps a grocery store that's open later.

The rental towers and office/retail project that Strand will be building next to the hospital on Prior Street has commercial space on the main floor. as well as office space in the upper floors of the podium. Initially it included a grocery store, at rezoning, but the DP replaced that with restaurant space, so there must have been some reconsideration of the viability of a grocery store at this stage.

[madog222]

The dark brown cladding on the lower levels has started to be installed.

[jollyburger]

Can't see it on the webcam yet but all the concrete surfaces are getting the plastic lining treatment so I guess it will happen on this side soon as well.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Can't see it on the webcam yet but all the concrete surfaces are getting the plastic lining treatment so I guess it will happen on this side soon as well.

They've clad some of the bottom floor in the webcam image. It's the very dark brown panels, going over the mineral insulation layer on vertical battens.

[Feathered Friend]

Development Permit Application DP-2024-00204

Application Date: Mar, 07, 2024

Details
Primary Location:
1002 STATION STREET, Vancouver, BC

Work Description:
New St Paul's DP-2 CSRC building sub area 1b

Following rezoning, development of: 14-storey institutional buindling including a 37 space child care and commercial at ground level over three levels of underground parking/loading accessed from Gore St

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public...ctId=227447237

[jollyburger]

Currently, construction crews are gearing up for the addition of the 11th floor, marking the structure’s full height. The project is set to reach the ‘topping off’ milestone this summer when the final concrete is poured on the roof of the new hospital. Then work begins on the exterior of the building, which is expected to continue into 2025.

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https://thenewstpauls.ca/three-year-...auls-hospital/

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

New video

https://thenewstpauls.ca/three-year-...auls-hospital/

Thanks - they're a bit further on already. The western 9 storey part of the building has a completed roof, and they already have part of the 11th floor closed in on the eastern block. That will presumably have a fair amount of reinforcement in the roof slab, as it's where the helipad will be.

[jollyburger]

From the Design Requirements:

Project Co will Design the Facility to accommodate, without requiring modification of the primary structure, a Future Heliport with a helicopter static load of 8618 kg times a dynamic factor of 1.5 for landing impact.

https://thenewstpauls.ca/app/uploads...ersions-v1.pdf