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Old Posted Apr 24, 2024, 1:21 AM
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Austin today does not even resemble Austin in 2000. If it weren’t for the state Capitol, you wouldn’t be able to tell it was the same city. They have built a lot in the last 25 years for sure but Austin also had a dogshit skyline in 2000. I’m pretty sure that San Antonio or even Tulsa had a better skyline than Austin in 2000 (no disrespect against Tulsa).
Agree. I remember hosting a conference in 1999 and being embarrassed by the Austin skyline, if you want to call it a skyline at the time. Things have changed so drastically that people who haven't been there in a while wouldn't know the place. I just wish Austin would have some major skyline nodes like Houston does. The Domain is a start, but still isn't really much in the way of height.
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Austin today does not even resemble Austin in 2000. If it weren’t for the state Capitol, you wouldn’t be able to tell it was the same city. They have built a lot in the last 25 years for sure but Austin also had a dogshit skyline in 2000. I’m pretty sure that San Antonio or even Tulsa had a better skyline than Austin in 2000 (no disrespect against Tulsa).
A better comparison would be Wichita or Memphis. Tulsa is well-known for its outsized skyline for a 1M metro.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2024, 12:46 PM
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Before 2000, London had just two towers >150m.

It has added a further 37 >150m towers, with a further 50 >150m towers either u/c, approved or proposed.

The largest cluster is that in Canary Wharf, followed by the City and Southwark (where the tallest, the Shard is located), but there are other emerging clusters in Vauxhall and North Acton.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2024, 6:31 PM
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Surprisingly, Toronto CMA only had 14 towers > 150m in 2000.

It has added a further 93 > 150m, with a further 471 >150m towers either U/C, Approved, or Proposed.

Besides the primary cluster in Downtown Toronto, there are ~11 others at various stages of development. The largest are North York Centre, Mississauga City Centre, Yonge/Eglinton, Vaughan Corporate Centre, Humber Bay, and Scarborough Centre.


- Figures are from the SSP database and for Toronto CMA (Toronto, Mississauga, Brampton, Vaughan, Markham)
- Figure for Built + U/C is 150 towers > 150m


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The City of Toronto had 14 > 150m in 2000.

It has added a further 82 > 150m, with a further 309 > 150m either U/C, Approved, or Proposed

Besides the primary cluster in Downtown Toronto, the largest are North York Centre, Yonge/Eglinton, Humber Bay, and Scarborough Centre.


- Figures are from the SSP database and for the City of Toronto only
- Figure is for Built + U/C is 125 towers > 150m
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2024, 7:20 PM
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Los Angeles (city proper):

23 ≥ 150m/492 ft. in 2000
43 ≥ 150m/492 ft. today*

*Includes three projects ≥ 150m/492 ft. that are topped out but not yet complete; does not include two projects ≥ 150m/492 ft. that are under construction but not yet topped out.
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And Long Island City today, a city unto itself, is still building like crazy. From last month:


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Yeah LIC just blows my mind. I mean what happening in downtown Brooklyn and Hudson Yard is impressive. But as a long time NYer, the explosion of LIC took me by surprise. Back in the 80's it was just old auto repair shops, warehouses and strip clubs. Now it looks like a major city in it own right if you were to plop it down in any part of the country; just amazing.
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Yeah LIC just blows my mind. I mean what happening in downtown Brooklyn and Hudson Yard is impressive. But as a long time NYer, the explosion of LIC took me by surprise. Back in the 80's it was just old auto repair shops, warehouses and strip clubs. Now it looks like a major city in it own right if you were to plop it down in any part of the country; just amazing.
Yeah, the auto repair shops, strip clubs, etc., dominated LIC as recently as the late 00s. I used to transfer trains at Queensboro Plaza to go to Astoria pretty often in the late 00s. I remember one day around 2008-2009 noticing that there were suddenly multiple high rise towers under construction around the station.

Before (2009): https://maps.app.goo.gl/vrY5koEsYceMLApq7

After (2022): https://maps.app.goo.gl/bpYopCsyCE2kbsuf9
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Los Angeles (city proper):

23 ≥ 150m/492 ft. in 2000
43 ≥ 150m/492 ft. today*

*Includes three projects ≥ 150m/492 ft. that are topped out but not yet complete; does not include two projects ≥ 150m/492 ft. that are under construction but not yet topped out.
How are you getting to 43? Including the Oceanwide Towers and Mirabel (which is not actually under construction yet) SSP gives me 38 buildings only.
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2024, 7:24 AM
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How are you getting to 43? Including the Oceanwide Towers and Mirabel (which is not actually under construction yet) SSP gives me 38 buildings only.
I used Wikipedia. I can check again, but not tonight.

Edit: Yeah, it can't be 43. I'll revise the list tomorrow.
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Here's a pretty good comparison shot of Nashville I just came across recently. The bottom photo is from earlier this year while the top photo is actually from 2015. However, if you remove the Pinnacle Tower (bright crown on far right) and the Omni Hotel (wide building with vertical lights) you'll get the skyline as it was in 2000, more or less. There is quite a bit of skyline to the left of this shot not pictured, but this gets the bulk of it... enough to get the gist anyway.

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Old Posted Apr 26, 2024, 10:07 PM
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Los Angeles:

23 ≥ 150m/492 ft. in 2000
37 ≥ 150m/492 ft. today*

*Includes three projects ≥ 150m/492 ft. that are topped out but not yet complete; excludes two projects ≥ 150m/492 ft. that are under construction but not yet topped out.
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February 4, 2001 vs April 2024; Seattle



Seattle Skyline by Andy, on Flickr


Seattle seen from Manchester Washington by Bob, on Flickr
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Just some comparisons. From early 2002 to 2015. To get an idea of the infill and expansion for Seattle's CBD node and proxies.

2002 to 2015

2002


Seattle from Above by Jim Parker, on Flickr


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Seattle Aerial by AlessioRLoreti, on Flickr


Further 2016. Reference 2002 image to this one as alignment is a lot closer.



Downtown Seattle aerial by SounderBruce, on Flickr
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Chicago:

700+ footers in 2000 - 12
700+ footers in 2024 - 30 (including 1 U/C)

A 150% increase in 700+ footers in the first quarter of this century!
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2024, 6:08 PM
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Speaking of Chicago, 2004 vs 2021

I suppose use Aon and the Trump tower as reference/comparison points with respect to infill. Also Sears and its surroundings, 2004 vs 2021.

Also that point in the beach that sort of hooks.


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^Salesforce Tower is just starting to peak above the old Sun times building in that picture. Also, 1000M is missing. I think the best way to see the impact on the skyline is either a shot from River North looking SE or a shot from Grant Park looking NW. The skyline is so big that even all the tall buildings we've built don't make as big of an impact as Nashville's growth for instance. The parts you could look at individually and really see the impact would be the South end of Grant Park, the Fulton Market and maybe a river aerial, but that wasn't really a thing in 2000.
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Sorry New York, but Chicago does have the best skyline in NA.
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Sorry New York, but Chicago does have the best skyline in NA.
NYC don’t give a **** , but, acknowledges Chicago has a gorgeous skyline .
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NYC don’t give a **** , but, acknowledges Chicago has a gorgeous skyline .
That's the most cromulent response ever.
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for sure you can’t get a full view of the ny skyline like that. maybe the laguardia flights view, but thats more of a mush than a skyline.

anyways its nice to see chicago filling in with the condos and stuff. in the 80s and 90s it reminded me of an older, bigger columbus with a straight line of buildings and scattered parking lots. now its getting thicc.
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