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Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown
People aren't moving in if the schools are still in disarray.
Cutting and simplifying business taxes is way more important than cutting the wage tax.
Comparatively, Philadelphia has lower property taxes than most suburbs. I think people understand you pay somewhere...whether it be via property taxes or wage taxes. I think people also expect to pay a bit more in taxes in a highly urban jurisdiction. There's just so much more a city has to fund than your typical suburban town.
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I wish PA did not rely so heavily on property taxes but that is a whole other discussion. But yes I have done some comparisons and in quite a few cases even with the wage tax you can save some money in the city vs the burbs (but you can lose it in other areas like car insurance so it can end up being a wash).
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And can we stop talking about TX as a low tax haven? Sure, it doesn't have an income tax. It has among the highest property taxes in the country. Like NJ level high. Again. You pay for it somewhere.
TX just happens to have really good and misleading marketing around the cost of living there.
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I can second this. Years ago when the company I was working for opened a second site in the Dallas area I spent some time down there, as they were asking me if I would be open to moving there (and as luck would have it I have a friend that moved there a few years earlier and was really enjoying it so the idea was appealing). I was shocked at the property taxes and a few other things and while yes in some areas the cost of living was cheaper on paper it didn't seem like one would be saving all that much, if anything. I enjoyed my time there but in the end decided not to move at that time. One of my coworkers did, though, and after a few years has since moved back.
But Dallas is cool and growing and changing very quickly and it's worth a look if you are interested in Texas.