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Old Posted Mar 13, 2022, 3:20 PM
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I still think that having trees on terraces that high up in New York is a pipe dream and potential hazard for the streets below.
Maybe. But it's more likely a lot of them don't actually appear because maintenance is expensive, and extremely annoying.
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I think it's a given most of these rendered trees are never going to be in the finished product, which is why I loath seeing them in so many design renderings. It's completely disingenuous.
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I still think that having trees on terraces that high up in New York is a pipe dream and potential hazard for the streets below.
Yeah. Sure.




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I see some scaffolding up on 421 7th Ave in that first shot above. Could it be they are freshening up one of our “favorite” buildings? Maybe so it can be with us for decades to come? ;-)
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I see some scaffolding up on 421 7th Ave in that first shot above. Could it be they are freshening up one of our “favorite” buildings? Maybe so it can be with us for decades to come? ;-)
More likely maintenance.

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What a silly post...


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A city in need of more housing and whose identity is increasingly at risk will instead get a super tall commercial office block






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Still can't believe the Hotel Pennsylvania is going to be demolished for a mega-tall office building, especially in light of the pandemic and re-thinking the office. What a ridiculous waste of something that could so easily be repurposed as housing, not to mention embodied energy







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Hotel Pennsylvania has been garbage for decades and barely qualifies as ‘historic’ after 50 years of botched renovations. The only reason it’s still standing is nostalgia for the building that used to be across the street.
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"Hotel Pennsylvania has been garbage for decades and barely qualifies as ‘historic’ after 50 years of botched renovations. The only reason it’s still standing is nostalgia for the building that used to be across the street"

The Only reason its still standing is because of the financial crisis in 2008.. It would've been razed then for Renzo's supertall!

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^It's bittersweet. I'm happy to see new development, but she was a real beauty in her heyday. Reminds me how lucky we are to have the Chicago Hilton.
I've stayed in the Chicago Hilton many times, and it's pretty meh. Small rooms, mediocre amenities.

Just don't stay on the Wabash side of that hotel, or you won't sleep, as the El train rattles your windows all night.
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I don’t think the building looks good on the skyline but the building is efficiently functional, it will be an efficient hotel and convention space, good for the neighborhood, and has well orchestrated views from the inside of the building to the outside, therefore, it should be built.
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Here's the base of the Pelli tower proposal. Compare this to the incongruous mess that is the base of the Foster tower. Then sigh.



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Here's the base of the Pelli tower proposal. Compare this to the incongruous mess that is the base of the Foster tower. Then sigh.



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I think the base has a simple pedestrian flow along with a lot of activity and ornamentation with the trees, entrances, lobbies and balconies.
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Of all the things to criticize this building on, the base is not one of them

I actually find the base to be the most troubling aspect of the design. New York has such a strong tradition of streetwall, it's been coded into zoning. This stretch of 7th Avenue has a strong one.




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It's why I felt the shorter version of the old tower was always a little stronger.




























But times change, and we'll have what we have. Took another one of my walks around Manhattan today, and I can truthfully say that Manhattan is unmatched in the amount of old buildings that make up the cityscape.

You can build 20 glass towers around Penn Station, and it wouldn't change that fact.




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Some 7th Avenue Streetwall...



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More updated renderings. It appears they have done away with the lowrise wing, creating something more fitting for the streetwall. It remains a work in progress.



















































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I could see Amazon buying 1m sf of this as an office condo. Bezos is heavily invested in this area.
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