NEW YORK | 175 Park Avenue (Grand Hyatt) | 1,581 FT | 92 FLOORS

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by DCReid

It may actually make more sense than a full-scale hotel given the area - it would appeal to business people who work with one of the midtown companies in another city/country that must stay in NYC for a few weeks for a special project. I would think many tourists would prefer to stay nearer to Times Square, Hudson Yards or even Penn Station instead of this area.

Yeah, but tourists stay all over Manhattan. It makes sense though for this business district that they can offer the extended stays at this location. That would make it harder to get ant rooms there, but if demand isn’t as great, they can just revert to regular stays. I’m surprised Vornado hasn’t gone for some rooms at 15 Penn.

[mrnyc]

welp per the post here is what a spokesperson said about next steps:

“Now that the entitlement process is complete, the developers will spend next year arranging construction financing and reaching out to potential tenants, with plans to start demolition in 2023.”

[NYguy]

^ Yeah, that’s the schedule.

[Raysiri]

175 Park Avenue’s 1,575-Foot-Tall Design Gains Approval In Midtown East, Manhattan


175 Park Avenue. Designed ny Skidmore, Owings & Merrill
BY: MICHAEL YOUNG 8:00 AM ON DECEMBER 31, 2021

At number one on our year-end countdown is Skidmore Owings & Merrill‘s mixed-use supertall at 175 Park Avenue in Midtown East, which earlier this month gained approval from the New York City Council. Developed by RXR Realty and TF Cornerstone, the 85-story tower has been reduced in height from 1,642 to 1,575 feet, still enough to surpass Central Park Tower for the title of tallest building in New York by roof height. 175 Park Avenue will eventually rise from the site of the Grand Hyatt hotel between the 108-year-old Beaux Arts Grand Central Terminal and the 91-year-old Art Deco Chrysler Building. The structure will yield 2.1 million square feet of Class A office space; 500 Hyatt hotel rooms on the upper floors spanning 453,000 square feet; 10,000 square feet of retail space on the ground, cellar, and second levels; and an elevated, 25,000-square-foot publicly accessible plaza space populated with artwork and views overlooking the surrounding Midtown streets.

175 Park Avenue, aka Project Commodore. Rendering by Skidmore Owings & Merrill


175 Park Avenue, aka Project Commodore, amongst the future Midtown East skyline. Rendering by Skidmore Owings & Merrill


175 Park Avenue, and the surrounding buildings along 42nd Street. Rendering by Skidmore Owings & Merrill


175 Park Avenue’s southern base along 42nd Street. Rendering by Skidmore Owings & Merrill


175 Park Avenue’s southern base along 42nd Street. Rendering by Skidmore Owings & Merrill


Steps leading to the terraces from 42nd Street. Rendering by Skidmore Owings & Merrill


Rendering by Skidmore Owings & Merrill


Rendering by Skidmore Owings & Merrill

Demolition work has yet to begin on the Hyatt Grand Central New York. Its dark all-glass façade and monolithic massing will eventually make way for this new 21st century icon for the city, which will eclipse the pinnacle of Kohn Pedersen Fox’s One Vanderbilt on the opposite side of Grand Central Terminal, and the beloved Chrysler Building across Lexington Avenue.

Photo by Michael Young


Photo by Michael Young


Photo by Michael Young


Photo by Michael Young


Photo by Michael Young


The nearby One Vanderbilt. Photo by Michael Young

Plans were initially approved by the Landmarks Preservation Commission, and the project quickly entered the Uniform Land Use Review (ULURP) process this past May. 175 Park Avenue’s construction will be done alongside a partnership with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) to generate hundreds of millions of dollars in new infrastructure and transportation upgrades to the adjacent Grand Central Terminal. These include a new 5,328-square-foot transit hall, upgrades along Lexington Avenue, and a new subway entrance at East 42nd Street. An additional $38 million will be used for the East Midtown Public Realm Improvement Fund for public space improvements. Skidmore, Owings & Merrill intends to incorporate the office aspect with arts and cultural programming spread across 12 large-scale events per year with a partnering organization, as well as 25 additional events. All of these will be coordinated by a Cultural Advisory Committee.

Rendering by Ekoomedia, Inc. Courtesy of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill

The Hyatt Grand Central New York is expected to be demolished over an 18-month period, followed by the construction of 175 Park Avenue. Given the scale of the undertaking, it’s likely the project won’t reach full completion until sometime near the end of the decade.

[DCReid]

Interesting reading the Wiki article paragraph about the failed proposal to demolish Grand Central Station in the 1950s:

"Initially, New York Central's chairman Robert R. Young had been negotiating with developer Erwin S. Wolfson and their mutual friends Herbert and Stuart Scheftel to determine how the Grand Central site could be redeveloped. After these discussions broke down, two competing plans for the replacement of Grand Central Terminal were proposed in 1954. One design, by I. M. Pei, was suggested by Young along with developer William Zeckendorf. The proposal called for an 80-story, 5-million-square-foot (460,000 m2) tower that would have succeeded the Empire State Building as the world's tallest building. The other, by Fellheimer & Wagner, was put forth by New Haven's chairman Patrick B. McGinnis along with Wolfson. The plan envisioned a 55-story building, the largest office building in the world with 4 to 6 million square feet (370,000 to 560,000 m2). Both proposals were poorly received, with 235 architects cosigning a letter imploring Young and McGinnis to reject the plans. Neither plan was ultimately ever carried out."

[They ended up building the Metlife Building once they could not demolish the station] And now we will get a wonderful building and GCC still stands. Too bad the original Penn Station did not survive.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by DCReid

Interesting reading the Wiki article paragraph about the failed proposal to demolish Grand Central Station in the 1950s:

"Initially, New York Central's chairman Robert R. Young had been negotiating with developer Erwin S. Wolfson and their mutual friends Herbert and Stuart Scheftel to determine how the Grand Central site could be redeveloped. After these discussions broke down, two competing plans for the replacement of Grand Central Terminal were proposed in 1954. One design, by I. M. Pei, was suggested by Young along with developer William Zeckendorf. The proposal called for an 80-story, 5-million-square-foot (460,000 m2) tower that would have succeeded the Empire State Building as the world's tallest building. The other, by Fellheimer & Wagner, was put forth by New Haven's chairman Patrick B. McGinnis along with Wolfson. The plan envisioned a 55-story building, the largest office building in the world with 4 to 6 million square feet (370,000 to 560,000 m2). Both proposals were poorly received, with 235 architects cosigning a letter imploring Young and McGinnis to reject the plans. Neither plan was ultimately ever carried out."

[They ended up building the Metlife Building once they could not demolish the station] And now we will get a wonderful building and GCC still stands. Too bad the original Penn Station did not survive.

Well, the MetLife itself was a separate project. But yeah, Grand Central (the building) would have been demolished like Penn Station. More on that in the thread below. One more interesting thing is that one version of the tower to replace Grand Central was going to have the address of - 175 Park Avenue.


https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=151888









https://breuer.syr.edu/xtf/search?keyword=175+park+avenue

[NYguy]

Whatever past plans and the fate of Grand Central may have been, how great is it now, both in terms of the new terminal and new tower that we are getting today.
I like to say that we haven't seen the best New York, and we can only improve on what we have, not just sit back and say "it's done".

Whenever I'm walking down 42nd, I look up to imagine what's coming, what it will feel like, and I'm excited!



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[NYguy]

Nothing new, but nice to see excitement grow for this tower….


https://www.bldup.com/posts/new-york-city-s-next-icon-receives-approval

New York City's Next Icon Receives Approval





1/04/22

When we think about the skyscrapers that best define New York's magnificent skyline, several obvious candidates come to mind. Currently, most New Yorkers will agree that the Empire State Building, the Chrysler Building, and the Freedom Tower are some of the most iconic symbols of our city's aesthetic identity. Each of these marvels broke height records upon completion and showcased the best that engineering had to offer. In a decade's time, however, an 85-story tower known as 175 Park Avenue will follow in their footsteps.

You see, 175 Park has just been approved by the NYC Mayor's Office, and is set to become the tallest building in the Big Apple by roof height. At 1,575 feet tall, the tower will considerably overtake the Freedom Tower (excluding its antenna), and just edge out Central Park Tower; the tallest fully residential building on earth.

Developed jointly by RXR Realty and TF Cornerstone, this colossal structure will contain roughly 2.1 million square feet of office space. And while this figure alone is enough to rank 175 Park as North America's 20th largest office building by floor area, it doesn't stop there. Not to be outdone in any capacity, the tower's upper floors will play host to a Hyatt hotel, encompassing 500 rooms and an additional 453,000 square feet.

Now, those stats are impressive, but in a city so beloved for its architecture, it must be acknowledged that crazy roof heights and roomy interiors aren't enough to label a building as "iconic". For that, it must have character and a touch of familiarity. Luckily, the architects at Skidmore, Owings & Merrill know a thing or two about this and were able to sculpt a design like no other. Thanks to modern construction methods, the tower will amplify New York's timeless art deco style in ways that were historically impossible.

If the sheer scale and design of the place doesn't excite New Yorkers, the new subway entrance sure will. With Grand Central Terminal right next door, the base of the tower will have direct street-level access to the 4, 5, 6, and 7 trains as well as the Times Square Shuttle. Also accessible to the public, the bottom floors will contain over 10,000 square feet of retail, and a 25,000 square foot plaza.

Whether or not she's a future icon, the approval of 175 Park Avenue marks the beginning of a new age. An age where if you can dream it, you can build it... with enough capital of course. At this point for the project, the next step will be to demolish the existing Hyatt hotel that occupies the lot. This process would take approximately a year and a half to complete. Once construction kicks off, the tower could potentially take the better part of a decade to finish, although no estimates are currently available.

[JMKeynes]

[ArchGuy1]

Does anyone know if 175 Park Avenue will have a public observation deck near the top like at One Vanderbilt or 30 Hudson Yards, as it would be a great idea considering the height of the building?

[MAC123]

Originally Posted by ArchGuy1

Does anyone know if 175 Park Avenue will have a public observation deck near the top like at One Vanderbilt or 30 Hudson Yards, as it would be a great idea considering the height of the building?

Nope, it doesn't.

[pico44]

Originally Posted by NYguy

Nothing new, but nice to see excitement grow for this tower….


https://www.bldup.com/posts/new-york-city-s-next-icon-receives-approval

New York City's Next Icon Receives Approval

Is it just me or is this a rendering of the most beautiful corner of the beautiful city in the world.

Hot damn

[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by pico44

Is it just me or is this a rendering of the most beautiful corner of the beautiful city in the world.

Hot damn

I agree!

P.S.: Nice avatar!

[Stan31]

I don't like that huge ring in the lobby.

[gttx]

Originally Posted by Stan31

I don't like that huge ring in the lobby.

I have no idea what that actually is, but likely it's just a placeholder for some piece of art that will eventually be there. Or imagine it as the huge wreath that would inevitably go there for the holidays.

[Busy Bee]

It's a gift from Sauron and isn't going anywhere.

[pianowizard]

It's a hula hoop.

[Stan31]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

It's a gift from Sauron and isn't going anywhere.

Well that just ruins the entire building for me!

A wreath would look nice there, but just the enormous ring looks out of place and weird. If you mentally picture the lobby without it, the look is far more aesthetically pleasing.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

It's a gift from Sauron and isn't going anywhere.

Correct answer.

Originally Posted by pico44

Is it just me or is this a rendering of the most beautiful corner of the beautiful city in the world.

Hot damn

I just happened to be walking through the area earlier, and once again looking forward to the future when I can look up and see all of these icons from the street. Sauron be praised.



JANUARY 7, 2021

[MAC123]

Originally Posted by Stan31

Well that just ruins the entire building for me!

A wreath would look nice there, but just the enormous ring looks out of place and weird. If you mentally picture the lobby without it, the look is far more aesthetically pleasing.

Something tells me if you're in that massive lobby, 90% of the time you're not even going to notice it's there