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Old Posted Feb 27, 2022, 10:28 PM
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Thanks, Chris.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2022, 1:16 AM
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Are they planning to proceed right away on spec once they demolish the hotel or is the actual construction start dependent on a large tenant lease? It seems that they could possibly start sooner than the construction of 175 Park Avenue, but I hope that building is not delayed.
They are planning to move forward following the completion of Penn 1 and 2. Demolishing the hotel now puts them in position to do just that.




It's good that they keep updating those renderings as the process moves along. You can tell it's a "Foster" building from some of the newer images.


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This is a unique and stunning building.
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I'd stop short of stunning. Grand Hyatt is stunning, this is ostentatious.
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The inside, terraces, entertainment areas look absolutely amazing!
That outside is going to take getting used to though.
Also when this is built it will probably have the best views of ESB in the city.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2022, 2:34 AM
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What I learned today is that that guy on the left is doing very very well.

Look at that body language from those two dates of his.

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I agree.

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Did they consult with Gene Kaufman Architects for the design of the North façade? Yuck. It's as bad as I feared. You know a building is bad when its boosters on this forum are posting rendering of planned future towers that will partially obscure certain angles.

The overall proportions remain... inelegant.

The nicest thing I can say is that the interiors look nice. I suppose if my company was in this building, I might appreciate it.
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While I am still not a fan of the design, I sure hope they do not build 3 or 4 copies of this building for the Penn Station development block as shown in this rendering by Chris08876:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...94273&page=108

I am afraid that would strike me as looking like a soviet style/60s urban renewal type block.
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Handsome base and the interiors look pretty slick. But man that silhouette. Gross.
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The design is gonna keep evolving some until it is built. And the height may also be 1,200 ft. The thing that bothers me about this design is actually at the street level, the lowrise portion along 7th.

Hard to say for sure with the renderings, but they may have eliminated one or both.



























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You know a building is bad when its boosters on this forum are posting rendering of planned future towers that will partially obscure certain angles.
Or rather those are the only new renderings available and so they are provided.
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Or rather those are the only new renderings available and so they are provided.
It’s not even worth engaging.
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The nail in the coffin for me is the interior render showing not one, not two, but three bearded hipster millennials.
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The nail in the coffin for me is the interior render showing not one, not two, but three bearded hipster millennials.
^ What does this sentence even mean?
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^ What does this sentence even mean?
I think it means he is not a fan of the building
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Is a "super floor" an amenity floor? What are they?

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Is a "super floor" an amenity floor? What are they?
It was hoped that one day Superman would need office space. That won’t happen. These images give a better idea.







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The massing is hideous. Shiny renderings don't distract from the awful design of this building. Disjointed and unbalanced. I hope one day it is surrounded by more attractive designs.
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