1477 West Broadway | 124 M | 39 fl | U/C

[officedweller]

Pic by me today:

[Lexus]

2023-09-16
Untitled by Lexus LX600, on Flickr

[madog222]

The podium looks great with the two levels of glazing.

[whatnext]

As seen from False Creek yesterday. I hadn't realized how much taller it had gotten compared to the Masonic tower already.

IMG_6056 by bcborn, on Flickr
my photo

[officedweller]

From Lawrence Black twitter today:


https://twitter.com/LawrenceBlackTV


https://twitter.com/LawrenceBlackTV


https://twitter.com/LawrenceBlackTV


https://twitter.com/LawrenceBlackTV

[Spr0ckets]

I'm kinda surprised at the white spandrel on the tower stem itself.
It creates a jarring contrast with those brassy brown metallic articulation on the commercial/office podium.

I would have though they'd have kept it a bit more uniform and consistent with a similar earth-toned or warm hued colour for the spandrel.

EDIT :
Okay, looking at, and comparing with the original renderings, it seems like this is consistent (...so far) with the original concept.

They have white spandrel and will later on attach similar-coloured metallic fins on top of the spandrel parts that will match the ones on the lower part of the building in not just tone and colour but also in profile as well.

It will be nice to have a warmer-tone building in this part of Downtown - and especially for such a prominent landmark tower, versus what they could have gone with. (**cough**Seaform green**cough**).

I believe the residential tower farther up the road on Birch is also going to go for a more warmer colour tone with their spandrels and finishes, so at least developers and designers are starting to get a clue.

[jollyburger]

Isn't that a plastic wrap covering the light brown?

[seamusmcduff]

^^ I thought I could see some test panels on the north side in some of the earlier pictures just above the podium, but they may have taken them off? Or it was just the lighting.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Isn't that a plastic wrap covering the light brown?

Unless they've changed the design to eliminate the metal fins altogether, if you look at the render below, you'll see at the top left on the actual tower portion the brown metal fins are attached on top of the white spandrel panels, which are still visible behind the angled profile of the metal fins that's inclined away from the face of the tower to reveal them (... as opposed to the triangular profiles they're using on the podium portion).

You can even see the horizontal white spandrel bands on the slab edge portions that are not covered by the metallic fins. But otherwise it seems pretty consistent with what we're seeing now minus the metal fins that will likely be installed later down the road.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

Unless they've changed the design to eliminate the metal fins altogether, if you look at the render below, you'll see at the top left on the actual tower portion the brown metal fins are attached on top of the white spandrel panels, which are still visible behind the angled profile of the metal fins that's inclined away from the face of the tower to reveal them (... as opposed to the triangular profiles they're using on the podium portion).

Interesting catch!

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Interesting catch!

It's the same thing with the top floor of the podium (or second to top?), where it's even easier to see the panels.
Basically flat panels slightly rotated off the face of the building and essentially just clipped onto, or attached to the curtian wall system - with a small gap between the two.

It's only the middle three floors of the podium that have the solid triangular profiled panels (the office portion) with the lowest two floors (The Loblaws supermarket and Lobby floors on the ground level) not having any at all.


Which seems to suggest that it was for cost-saving purposes that they did it that way rather than the same triangular metal panel throughout the entire tower.

The office component is going to be the major money-earner(or rent-charger) anyway so no suprise they're getting the most expensive facade treatment.

[jollyburger]

It's weird but doesn't this rendering with the City Market branding show the triangular wedges on the residential floors? Old rendering?



But in this image they just look more flat.



https://www.cbre.ca/properties/offic...lumbia-v6h-1h6

Also what is with that cutouts in the balconies?

[officedweller]

Test (?) panels posted July 22, 2023:

Originally Posted by gaviscon

20230722_124857 by globalbusinesscentre105 H, on Flickr

20230722_124905 by globalbusinesscentre105 H, on Flickr

20230722_125004 by globalbusinesscentre105 H, on Flickr

[madog222]

^Exactly, the white (or more likely bare aluminum) is where the three dimensional panels will be installed.

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Also what is with that cutouts in the balconies?

I thinks its more that two adjacent balconies are tied together rather than one cut out.

[giallo]

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[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

It's weird but doesn't this rendering with the City Market branding show the triangular wedges on the residential floors? Old rendering?

......

But in this image they just look more flat.

.....

Also what is with that cutouts in the balconies?

You're probably right.

But I think it's the rendering I showed that was the older one.

Based on that rendering on Officedweller's photo of the section with the test panels, it seems like at some point the decision was made to go with full solid 3 dimensional triangular profile panels for the residential portion of the tower as well to match the office panels rather than the flat but inclined one showed in the render I showed.


I'm guessing the cutouts are just an aesthetic thing to make the two balconies like like a larger one.

(And expensive one at that because those glass panels and railings protecting nothing but a hole behind them are not cheap.)

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

I'm guessing the cutouts are just an aesthetic thing to make the two balconies like like a larger one.

(And expensive one at that because those glass panels and railings protecting nothing but a hole behind them are not cheap.)

They seem to be more common - the Northwest towers at Marine & Cambie have the the cutouts as does Alaska (near Brentwood).

Alaska:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...postcount=5043

Northwest:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...205914&page=11


... and even as far back as the podium of The Mark (2013)
(could be for a track if those panels move):

Originally Posted by Jebby

IMG_4756 by Yellow Fever @ SkyscraperCity, on Flickr

[jollyburger]

Or there's a mix of both styles though I think from a maintenance perspective not having angular fins might be less of a headache when you are going up and down to wash windows.

There's a facade articulation diagram from April 2022 on page 14

https://council.vancouver.ca/2022041...antboards2.pdf

[officedweller]

Yeah, open windows are hazardous for ropes getting caught,
so angled fins would probably be similar.

[officedweller]

From Lawrence Black twitter Nov 14th:


https://twitter.com/LawrenceBlackTV


https://twitter.com/LawrenceBlackTV


https://twitter.com/LawrenceBlackTV


https://twitter.com/LawrenceBlackTV