ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Location/project is AMLI Arts Center, for anyone curious.

Surprised they do not have a crane up yet..

[Ant131531]

I feel like quite a few projects in Midtown have taken a long time to either really get going or get completed....maybe it's all the rain we've been getting the last 2 years or so?

I mean, how long have they been working on 782 Peachtree now? The sidewalk has been closed for what feels like years. And let's not get started with Hanover West Peachtree on 10th street. They haven't even gotten above street level and it's been close to a year now. Some of these projects really need to start wrapping up so we can see rents go down and get more people living in Midtown.

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

I feel like quite a few projects in Midtown have taken a long time to either really get going or get completed....maybe it's all the rain we've been getting the last 2 years or so?

I mean, how long have they been working on 782 Peachtree now? The sidewalk has been closed for what feels like years. And let's not get started with Hanover West Peachtree on 10th street. They haven't even gotten above street level and it's been close to a year now. Some of these projects really need to start wrapping up so we can see rents go down and get more people living in Midtown.

You hit the nail on the head..... Could it be lack of workers???

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by bigstick

You hit the nail on the head..... Could it be lack of workers???

Pretty sure this is it. Two new stadium development simultaneously are draining Atlanta's construction resources and raising costs. I wonder if we'd have even more projects announced if the stadiums were not being built.

[RocketSurgeon]

I see an awful lot of people working on these sites... in fact 782 Peachtree has had workers going 24/7 at times... I think some of the projects are just more complex for various reasons. Hanover West Peachtree must have run into some kind of issue--I can't imagine they were planning to spend a year on that site prep. They're finally pouring slabs though, so it shouldn't be long before it takes shape. It really is pretty agonizing to watch some of these though... sometimes it seems like the main structure appears overnight and then they spend the next year installing one balcony railing a day.

[Verge]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Pretty sure this is it. Two new stadium development simultaneously are draining Atlanta's construction resources and raising costs. I wonder if we'd have even more projects announced if the stadiums were not being built.

Probably not-- these are complex buildings on urban sites-- they just take awhile. I'm sure they are going as fast as they can since site mobilization (general conditions) is one of the major costs of construction. As for Hanover-- yes there had to be a delay of some kind. Given the site and how deep they went, I suspect rock or unstable soils--

[scania]

Originally Posted by Verge

Probably not-- these are complex buildings on urban sites-- they just take awhile. I'm sure they are going as fast as they can since site mobilization (general conditions) is one of the major costs of construction. As for Hanover-- yes there had to be a delay of some kind. Given the site and how deep they went, I suspect rock or unstable soils--

Very true...also, keep in mind that there are new/more building codes that companies have to adhere to which takes more time, especially in the initial start of these new buildings.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

Demolition of the archive building to be replaced with a new Court building is moving forward:

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/...g-authorityseeking-bids-on-judicial.html

They put out for bids.

[trainiac]

Originally Posted by Verge

Probably not-- these are complex buildings on urban sites-- they just take awhile. I'm sure they are going as fast as they can since site mobilization (general conditions) is one of the major costs of construction. As for Hanover-- yes there had to be a delay of some kind. Given the site and how deep they went, I suspect rock or unstable soils--

Yeah, 5th St & Peachtree sidewalks have been closed since Jan 2015. I think one of the big problems they have is having no place to stage materials on site. I'm fine with getting rid of surface lots, but that is an effect. I've seen no shortage of workers there! Tons of people are on site but who knows how experienced any of them are.

[thepope117]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

Demolition of the archive building to be replaced with a new Court building is moving forward:

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/...g-authorityseeking-bids-on-judicial.html

They put out for bids.

RIP Prem Industries

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

Alpharetta might be becoming Perimeter 2.0. I think the first heavy duty crane was erected here for the next phase of Avalon. It is the tallest thing in Alpharetta for now methinks. The tower being built I think is 10 stories and should be the tallest building in Alpharetta.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by trainiac

Yeah, 5th St & Peachtree sidewalks have been closed since Jan 2015. I think one of the big problems they have is having no place to stage materials on site. I'm fine with getting rid of surface lots, but that is an effect. I've seen no shortage of workers there! Tons of people are on site but who knows how experienced any of them are.

I understand sometimes you need the space where sidewalks are for other things during construction. However, basically every city I have been to they close one of the traffic lanes and put a temporary plywood sidewalk with an overhang there. Because if you "close" the sidewalk people are just going to walk in the street. I know I have when I walk past many of these projects with "closed sidewalks".

[AtlantaMustang]

Two new mixed use residential projects along Dresden Drive in Brookhaven.







http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/...ts-planned-for-brookhaven-s-dresden.html

This along with the Brookhaven Marta mixed-use will really fill out that street.

[alco89]

Originally Posted by jsvh

I understand sometimes you need the space where sidewalks are for other things during construction. However, basically every city I have been to they close one of the traffic lanes and put a temporary plywood sidewalk with an overhang there. Because if you "close" the sidewalk people are just going to walk in the street. I know I have when I walk past many of these projects with "closed sidewalks".

We certainly need to do a better job at keeping sidewalks open adjacent to construction projects. However, contrary to what you say, in just about every city I've been to (with the exception of NYC and Chicago) I've seen sidewalks closed while a building is under construction. It may have something to do with the amount of available space, or it may have something to do with the city mandating a sidewalk also be reconstructed (like some sites in Midtown).

I've looked through current construction cams from Atlanta, Denver, Dallas, Houston, DC, Seattle and Charlotte (and then I grew tired of it lol) and they all have at least one project with the sidewalk completely closed. It's not just an Atlanta problem, it's an American problem.

[micropundit]

Atlanta-based Peachtree Hotel Group has acquired the 260-room Holiday Inn Atlanta Downtown Centennial Park. The company plans to invest $20 million to renovate and reflag the property as an AC Hotel by Marriott.Construction is expected to kick off in June, with the goal of completing the project in early 2017.
“This renovation will encompass a complete transformation of all areas of the hotel,” Mitul Patel, chief operating officer of Peachtree Hotel Group, said in an email to Atlanta Business Chronicle.
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2016/04/19/20-million-ac-hotel-planned-for-downtown.html

[Martinman]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

I feel like quite a few projects in Midtown have taken a long time to either really get going or get completed....maybe it's all the rain we've been getting the last 2 years or so?

I mean, how long have they been working on 782 Peachtree now? The sidewalk has been closed for what feels like years. And let's not get started with Hanover West Peachtree on 10th street. They haven't even gotten above street level and it's been close to a year now. Some of these projects really need to start wrapping up so we can see rents go down and get more people living in Midtown.

If it meant that they were of the quality of 782 Peachtree, I wouldn't mind it if the construction of every project in Midtown was as "slow" as that project. Installing real masonry does take longer than slapping up stucco and faux brick. But I don't really see it as being slow. It's just how long it takes to build the project based on the specific requirements of each project.

[pica]

Originally Posted by jsvh

The site I call out is basiclly right next to the Porsche / Solis site. If it is elsewhere, can you be more specific? The quotes you provide don't seem to indicate where it is in any significant detail.

But thanks for those quotes. That supports some chatter about the Hapeville town center I have been hearing about. Think there is some event Tuesday that is suppose to have more detail.

Yeah -- the block bound by Porsche Ave, Elm St, College St, and Perkins St is only about 6 acres. The part I quoted mentions that the site is "over 30 acres" and is "adjacent" to the new hotel, so it would have to be the empty land seen here.

[Libertarian]

About 150 acres to the west of Porsche need redevelopment.

[Frankster87]

Originally Posted by micropundit

Atlanta-based Peachtree Hotel Group has acquired the 260-room Holiday Inn Atlanta Downtown Centennial Park. The company plans to invest $20 million to renovate and reflag the property as an AC Hotel by Marriott.Construction is expected to kick off in June, with the goal of completing the project in early 2017.
“This renovation will encompass a complete transformation of all areas of the hotel,” Mitul Patel, chief operating officer of Peachtree Hotel Group, said in an email to Atlanta Business Chronicle.
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2016/04/19/20-million-ac-hotel-planned-for-downtown.html

I sure hope "all areas of the hotel", include the awful way it engages the street!

[Tuckerman]

Emory Proton Center

Any updates on this stuck project? A very awful block intrusion in the best case and really useless as is. Could put a Starbucks there in the meantime.