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Old Posted Nov 8, 2014, 7:21 PM
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I never realized that there was so much grass in Denver!
     
     
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I never realized that there was so much grass in Denver!
Ha ha. And mountains east/southeast of town!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2014, 7:35 PM
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And so much water. A little kayak is one thing, but that's a full on Minnesota lake canoe there. Good they wore their life jackets.

What the heck or those fake village buildings where Union Station is supposed to be. Terrible rendering, just terrible. Get a photo from Ryan for crying out loud and use that to overlay your rendering on. Amateurish.
     
     
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The Confluence:

How can someone get so many things wrong in a sketch? It seems it would take more time and effort to do it this way as opposed to just over-laying the image on an accurate photo..
     
     
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A long time ago someone posted a sketch from the 60's, in which Denver was imagined as a car city or some other nonsense.

It looked almost exactly like that Confluence rendering.


Although: I do love love love the little building next to it. That's a nice amenity for the park itself.
     
     
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How can someone get so many things wrong in a sketch? It seems it would take more time and effort to do it this way as opposed to just over-laying the image on an accurate photo..
It looks like he/she started to try to make the CBD accurate and after about 5 buildings just said f**k it and decided to have their 8 year old kid finish it up.
     
     
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Well - good news for those who would like to purchase a condo in Denver sometime in their lifetime. State Senate President Morgan Carroll is soon to be ex-Senate President Morgan Carroll.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2014, 10:00 PM
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Well - good news for those who would like to purchase a condo in Denver sometime in their lifetime. State Senate President Morgan Carroll is soon to be ex-Senate President Morgan Carroll.
My thoughts exactly. It's hard for me to ever cheer against my own party. But if difficult problems won't be tackled by leadership, then sometimes we need new leadership. And she needed to be neutralized.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2014, 10:38 PM
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Hopefully the cheap townhome projects will go away once we free up developers to build condo buildings. Condo buildings are such a better form for our city.
     
     
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Hopefully the cheap townhome projects will go away once we free up developers to build condo buildings. Condo buildings are such a better form for our city.
Not sure what you mean by "cheap" or where specifically but I don't mind townhomes. They provide texture and a density mix that is fine by me. I'm all for condos though and generally they are more economical as well as the "highest, best use."


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Well - good news for those who would like to purchase a condo in Denver sometime in their lifetime. State Senate President Morgan Carroll is soon to be ex-Senate President Morgan Carroll.
I assume your reference is that Republicans have won a majority in the Colorado Senate?

There has been growing support for doing something on both sides it seems; just not enough unanimity on what. For Dems the trend is not their friend so I'd think that reasonable heads will prevail. The devil is always in the details of course.

Isn't the SEC of Blake and 20th Streets still vacant. I nominate that land as one of the better prime candidates for condos.

I would also assume that a "fixed" condo law would be more celebrated in the suburban areas?
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I would also assume that a "fixed" condo law would be more celebrated in the suburban areas?
I think Denver is the clear beneficiary. There are some suburbs who will care - old inner ring burbs with redevelopment opportunities (Lakewood) and those more expensive suburbs with major TOD opportunities (Lone Tree) - but many won't benefit as much, as I'm not sure there's going to be much of a boom in lower end condo construction with rents holding where they are.
     
     
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While specifics and discussion best left for the transportation thread, Colorado is doing an admiral job with respect to transit. You have to be impressed with the ongoing investment in the Metro Denver/Boulder area in spite of first mile/last mile issues. Transit has also "caught on" in Fort Collins and Summit and Pitkin counties. From this point one can envision a lot more but it's also amazing how far we've come.

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Not only does the love affair with roads continue but they are a critical way we move goods and people. Colorado deserves credit for being an early adapter of the Public-Private Partnership (P3's) model for both transit and roads. However more needs to be done especially in securing a more dependable revenue stream.

Rant: With crude and gasoline prices that have cratered and look to stay down for some time, now is the perfect time to increase fuel taxes at both the federal and state levels. Federal fuel taxes have not been raised since 1993, not even for inflation. This should be used to fund both roads and transit. P3's simply are NOT the answer to all of Colorado's road and bridge/transit needs.

Colorado rates a B- for transportation.
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I completely agree. But the Republican House in Washington has as much chance of nationalizing healthcare as they have of increasing the gas tax. I suppose a state level increase could be possible, but would also do a lot less. And require an election next November that nobody wants.
     
     
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I was just perusing Sprocket Design's website and came across this: http://www.sprocketdb.com/high-iron-point-concept/. Is this purely conceptual or does this project have legs?
Not sure. I think this is in the Denargo Market area. If it's the lot I'm guessing then there is a rezone sign out on the fence. So perhaps it does really have legs.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2014, 2:40 AM
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I completely agree. But the Republican House in Washington has as much chance of nationalizing healthcare as they have of increasing the gas tax. I suppose a state level increase could be possible, but would also do a lot less. And require an election next November that nobody wants.
Not so sure about this? The sense I've gotten is that Republicans did an admiral job of finding candidates that were "normal, rational people." Traditionally transportation has been popular on both sides of the aisle.

The more rapidly growing southern states have been an outlier but I have to believe they are also facing transportation needs growing faster than they've been able to meet. They may now be seeing the benefit of Federal support. Most of the low density states are Republican and likely depend more desperately on Federal support.

Such is the nature of politics that once elected much of the campaign rhetoric becomes irrelevant. If they see the need and the benefit they'll do it and paint it as a positive. I can easily see more moderate/commerce friendly Republicans and Dems teaming up FTW.

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I think Denver is the clear beneficiary. There are some suburbs who will care - old inner ring burbs with redevelopment opportunities (Lakewood) and those more expensive suburbs with major TOD opportunities (Lone Tree) - but many won't benefit as much, as I'm not sure there's going to be much of a boom in lower end condo construction with rents holding where they are.
In the near term I'd agree because the biggest development interest is still "urban core" but that will change over time.

Longer term I can envision the South Colorado Blvd. (south of I-25) and the East Hampden Ave. corridor (east of I-25) being great areas for redevelopment and densification - for example.
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Not sure what you mean by "cheap" or where specifically but I don't mind townhomes. They provide texture and a density mix that is fine by me. I'm all for condos though and generally they are more economical as well as the "highest, best use."

Jefferson Park and Sloan's Lake. They are more dense to be sure than what they are replacing; not sure about the texture though. They tend to turn their sides to the sidewalk. I just don't like that form for a neighborhood.
     
     
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Pretty sure this is going to be my favorite building in Denver when it is done.

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The Whole Foods discussion has me thinking about the future of Union Station. I don't know if the plan below is still valid but it shows the area along Chestnut between 16th and 20th as a "neighborhood retail district". This to me would mean smaller retail stores and restaurants lining the street. Does Alta City House have any retail, maybe at the corners? What besides King Soopers will be on the Chestnut side of Élan? This stretch will also have the low income housing between 18th & 19th across from Alta that won't have retail creating a dead zone on that block. I think this is a real missed opportunity to create a mini district on Chestnut between the two groceries. Maybe the retail corridor should be Wewatta instead? Thoughts?


http://denverinfill.com/blog/2010/05/union-station-plan-light-rail.html
     
     
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