NEW YORK | 175 Park Avenue (Grand Hyatt) | 1,581 FT | 92 FLOORS - Page 85

Zapatan · #**1681** Posted **Dec 10, 2021, 6:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Kurtz

On the final height, if i had to bet my money, i bet it on 420 meters, but who knows.

Perhaps I'd bet on 450-500 meters which are the height figures we've seen so far and is how high they can build, which in this location they'd be wise to take advantage of.

Especially considering that the neighboring Chase and Vanderbilt towers are a little above 420 meters.

Kurtz · #**1682** Posted **Dec 10, 2021, 7:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by MAC123

You bet your money that this very expensive tower, in a very strategic location is going to be 300 feet shorter than they´ve gotten approval for. Well if I was a betting man, I´d be winning a lot of money from you.

Just like Randolph e Mortimer Duke, but considering they were rich, i would bet € 0,05 or $

NYConstructiongeek · #**1683** Posted **Dec 10, 2021, 9:38 PM**

The Hotel Commodore can go, we are getting a beautiful and unique building!! As for the Roosevelt Hotel, I think they should landmark it, it's a beautiful building with a lovely facade. And lastly, Hotel Penn I have mixed emotions. It's nice but not as nice as the Roosevelt Hotel. I don't like the plan for Penn station itself, it's not improving foot traffic and other things, but rather just redoing the station with towers around it. Don't get me wrong it will look nice with marble and everything open and natural light , but I don't like the way they are doing it.

MAC123 · #**1684** Posted **Dec 10, 2021, 11:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYConstructiongeek

The Hotel Commodore can go, we are getting a beautiful and unique building!! As for the Roosevelt Hotel, I think they should landmark it, it's a beautiful building with a lovely facade. And lastly, Hotel Penn I have mixed emotions. It's nice but not as nice as the Roosevelt Hotel. I don't like the plan for Penn station itself, it's not improving foot traffic and other things, but rather just redoing the station with towers around it. Don't get me wrong it will look nice with marble and everything open and natural light , but I don't like the way they are doing it.

Pretty sure Roosevelt Hotel is already in pre demolition, it's not getting landmarked.
"it's not improving foot traffic and other things" Inside or outside? If you're talking about outside, you're wrong. I haven't seen any plans for the inside but I assume they'll be redoing that as well.

Apple1263 · #**1685** Posted **Dec 10, 2021, 11:57 PM**

No, your getting confused, The Roosevelt Hotel is not in pre-demolition. The Penn Hotel is in pre-demolition. Two different buildings in two different areas. As for the hotel commodore, I will be the first one to start demolition for this new sexy tower. The base alone is just mind blowing and I love every aspect of this new tower. As for Penn 15 tower it's just ok. I somewhat agree with NYConsrtuction geek, not against new towers but not a fan of penn station plan itself. MSG needs to go along with it's rats. I also don't like the plan for the sky bridge to be torn down and south of penn.

Apple1263 · #**1686** Posted **Dec 11, 2021, 12:00 AM**

"Pretty sure Roosevelt Hotel is already in pre demolition, it's not getting landmarked.
it's not improving foot traffic and other things" Inside or outside? If you're talking about outside, you're wrong. I haven't seen any plans for the inside but I assume they'll be redoing that as well."

I think he or she means inside or just the whole theme of Penn station plan itself.

Busy Bee · #**1687** Posted **Dec 11, 2021, 12:05 AM**

Why are there 3 brand new forum members posting all at the same time in this thread??? Same person seems likely.

MAC123 · #**1688** Posted **Dec 11, 2021, 12:08 AM**

Oh well I seemed to have mixed up the hotels then, sorry about that. No idea if it will get landmarked.

Apple1263 · #**1689** Posted **Dec 11, 2021, 12:12 AM**

Maybe it is, Maybe it's not��

BK1985 · #**1690** Posted **Dec 11, 2021, 2:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Why are there 3 brand new forum members posting all at the same time in this thread??? Same person seems likely.

LOL, get out of my brain.

NYguy · #**1691** Posted **Dec 15, 2021, 5:23 AM**

Nothing really new, but a look at the CTBUH presentation...

• Video Link

JMKeynes · #**1692** Posted **Dec 15, 2021, 5:42 AM**

“Can you say ‘Greatest City in the World,’ boys and girls?”

Manitopiaaa · #**1693** Posted **Dec 15, 2021, 8:59 AM**

From NYGuy's screenshot here:

Is that a new official render of 343 Madison? Doesn't look much taller than Metlife when you consider Metlife is closer to the foreground, but hoping that's just a visual illusion/elevation issue.

dropdeaded209 · #**1694** Posted **Dec 15, 2021, 1:27 PM**

sorry for the OT but what's the "major redevelopment" planned for 601 Lex (Citicorp)? Isn't that a landmark too?

JMKeynes · #**1695** Posted **Dec 15, 2021, 1:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Manitopiaaa

From NYGuy's screenshot here:

Is that a new official render of 343 Madison? Doesn't look much taller than Metlife when you consider Metlife is closer to the foreground, but hoping that's just a visual illusion/elevation issue.

No. The image of 270 Park is old too.

Here's the latest of 343. It will be 1,050' tall.

https://www.dezeen.com/2021/06/02/kohn-pedersen-fox-343-madison-avenue-supertall-skyscraper/

TonyNYC · #**1696** Posted **Dec 15, 2021, 2:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by dropdeaded209

sorry for the OT but what's the "major redevelopment" planned for 601 Lex (Citicorp)? Isn't that a landmark too?

Citicorp is not getting redeveloped, it was landmarked in 2016!

NYguy · #**1697** Posted **Dec 15, 2021, 2:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by dropdeaded209

sorry for the OT but what's the "major redevelopment" planned for 601 Lex (Citicorp)? Isn't that a landmark too?

They’re talking about at the base, lower levels.

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Originally Posted by Manitopiaaa

Is that a new official render of 343 Madison? Doesn't look much taller than Metlife when you consider Metlife is closer to the foreground, but hoping that's just a visual illusion/elevation issue.

I mentioned earlier, that’s not the 1,000 ft version of the tower. It’s just a graphic meant to place 175 Park in context. There are no new renderings.

Back on the screenshots, in the last there’s a model of 175 with what looks like a slightly different crown. There’s also a tower on the right that could be another variant.