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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 12:17 AM
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Nice photo but ah geez that's a teaser as it's an older photo. For a second I thought the "lone column" had made a comeback!!
     
     
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wow great photos. From this vantage point you really get a sense for how powerful 1wtc already is in the skyline and how much it will shine once it's finished. Just wait til it's topped out!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 5:08 AM
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They better put a restaurant and observatory up top because there is already WAYY too much empty space, no building, ANYWHERE needs 250 feet of mechanical space, maybe if it's 7000 feet tall, but this is not the case. Sears only has 80 or so feet of mech. space, the old WTC, maybe 50 or 60, many new supertalls, still such...

I really think the new WTC may possible look good when completed but some aspects are just so pathetic and cowardly I can't help but get enraged by what we are replacing two of the most massive structures on earth with...



Ps. sorry for the rant... part of me really hates the new WTC still...
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 8:23 AM
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 8:30 AM
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 11:15 AM
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They better put a restaurant and observatory up top because there is already WAYY too much empty space, no building, ANYWHERE needs 250 feet of mechanical space, maybe if it's 7000 feet tall, but this is not the case. Sears only has 80 or so feet of mech. space, the old WTC, maybe 50 or 60, many new supertalls, still such...
You're forgetting that Tower One is self-contained, all the mechanical equipment it needs is in the tower, unlike the twins or any other major skyscraper.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 12:34 PM
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Camera cams

I noticed that the Earthcam web-cam moved up high to so the WTC1 build.. but is there another cam showing the bottom of the WTC1 area? I would like to watch them add the cladding style to the bottom of the tower.

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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 12:58 PM
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 2:21 PM
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I'm pretty sure both the 100th and 101 floors are going to be observation floors, based on something I read somewhere (I could be wrong). Having two observation floors might somewhat makeup for having no outdoor deck...Id still bet that when the tower is finished, in the future, they will put a restaurant up there at the top (if there is demand for it and enough people ask for it) maybe Windows on the World II!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 3:19 PM
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the windows

the windows of the freedom tower look amazing ! depending on light and weather, sometimes they are transparent, and we can see the columns inside, and sometimes they are not, and they reflect like a giant mirror !!

is it a special type of windows ?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 4:21 PM
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I noticed that the Earthcam web-cam moved up high to so the WTC1 build.. but is there another cam showing the bottom of the WTC1 area? I would like to watch them add the cladding style to the bottom of the tower.

Thanks!!
Here you go:
http://www.video-monitoring.com/construction/kpitv/silver.htm

Note: Based on your internet connection you may have to wait for the images to fully load into there high-res glory.
     
     
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Will be illuminated the first 57 meters ?
And what will be illuminated of this tower at 4 AM ?
     
     
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I keep an eye on this particular thread but don't post too often really. I have an opinion,as off topic as it might seem. When i was in 1st grade,the music room classroom window was on the 3rd floor facing east giving me the perfect view of Nelson and David as they rose higher and higher. I can still see 4 Koch Erecting Corp Kangaroos on each building lifting 3 story sections of curtain wall higher and higher into the sky. It seemed every week they got higher and higher. In 1972,I believe Do It Again by Steely Dan had just come out and for some reason whenever i hear that song,i think of the 2 behemoths that were built just across the river within view of the school. To this day when i hear that song it transports me right back to my desk next to the window and once again i see the construction activity. It brings an inward smile and yet an air of sadness at the same time for me. I suppose you could say i almost feel like i lost a part of my childhood when they came down. I know it all might sound weird to you but they were indelibly burned into my psyche for some odd reason,almost as if they were family members. I can remember when we would go to my grandparents house in Brooklyn,i would always beg my father to take the West Side Highway so we could go right by them and i remember always craning my neck to look at them as we'd drive by. I can remember many times going down the NJ Turnpike in the late afternoon/early evening and watching them as the setting sun would turn them into towers of gold as the light played off the aluminum exterior panels. I finally got a chance to visit them in 1988 live and in person and can remember that the first thing i did was walk right up to them and look straight up the side.........almost as if i was meeting a superhero i idolized as a child. For me they were,i guess you could say,a part of me for some reason. I can remember walking into the massive lobby and marveling in its size and beauty and finally being able to see,up close what had kept my attention in school all those years before. The view from the rooftop was,in my opinion about as close to heaven as you could get without actually having to confront St Peter. While i do think the new 1WTC is and will be beautiful,the mystique Nelson and david held for me will never be matched. I will always have my memories of those two beautiful yet simple structures that looked amazing to me,no matter what time of the day i'd happen to see them. Would i have liked to see them re-built?? Absolutely!!.............even taller. Would i have been afraid to go inside them?? Nope......no reason to fear old friends. Anyhow i just wanted to add my .02 on the subject of Nelson and David. Sorry if i,as well was a bit off topic. Thanks for listening. Oh by the way i certainly hope this page continues right up until they pull the last crane off the roof of the new 1WTC............as long as ive been in construction as a pipefitter,ive never seen how it's done and it would be interesting to see how they actually get the last one off the roof. Take care............Tom
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 4:57 PM
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Looks like to me the 83 & 84 floors has already been deck.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 5:13 PM
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...Oh by the way i certainly hope this page continues right up until they pull the last crane off the roof of the new 1WTC............as long as ive been in construction as a pipefitter,ive never seen how it's done and it would be interesting to see how they actually get the last one off the roof. Take care............Tom
Tom,

in case you did not see this...just prior to hurricane Irene hitting NYC 2 months ago..one of the cranes was dismantled, so i'm sure it will look something like this...and I will document every step of the way!!!



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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 6:40 PM
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I keep an eye on this particular thread but don't post too often really. I have an opinion,as off topic as it might seem. When i was in 1st grade,the music room classroom window was on the 3rd floor facing east giving me the perfect view of Nelson and David as they rose higher and higher. I can still see 4 Koch Erecting Corp Kangaroos on each building lifting 3 story sections of curtain wall higher and higher into the sky. It seemed every week they got higher and higher. In 1972,I believe Do It Again by Steely Dan had just come out and for some reason whenever i hear that song,i think of the 2 behemoths that were built just across the river within view of the school. To this day when i hear that song it transports me right back to my desk next to the window and once again i see the construction activity. It brings an inward smile and yet an air of sadness at the same time for me. I suppose you could say i almost feel like i lost a part of my childhood when they came down. I know it all might sound weird to you but they were indelibly burned into my psyche for some odd reason,almost as if they were family members. I can remember when we would go to my grandparents house in Brooklyn,i would always beg my father to take the West Side Highway so we could go right by them and i remember always craning my neck to look at them as we'd drive by. I can remember many times going down the NJ Turnpike in the late afternoon/early evening and watching them as the setting sun would turn them into towers of gold as the light played off the aluminum exterior panels. I finally got a chance to visit them in 1988 live and in person and can remember that the first thing i did was walk right up to them and look straight up the side.........almost as if i was meeting a superhero i idolized as a child. For me they were,i guess you could say,a part of me for some reason. I can remember walking into the massive lobby and marveling in its size and beauty and finally being able to see,up close what had kept my attention in school all those years before. The view from the rooftop was,in my opinion about as close to heaven as you could get without actually having to confront St Peter. While i do think the new 1WTC is and will be beautiful,the mystique Nelson and david held for me will never be matched. I will always have my memories of those two beautiful yet simple structures that looked amazing to me,no matter what time of the day i'd happen to see them. Would i have liked to see them re-built?? Absolutely!!.............even taller. Would i have been afraid to go inside them?? Nope......no reason to fear old friends. Anyhow i just wanted to add my .02 on the subject of Nelson and David. Sorry if i,as well was a bit off topic. Thanks for listening. Oh by the way i certainly hope this page continues right up until they pull the last crane off the roof of the new 1WTC............as long as ive been in construction as a pipefitter,ive never seen how it's done and it would be interesting to see how they actually get the last one off the roof. Take care............Tom
Sorry to copy and paste your entire text but every word were worth it.

I was not born in NYC, not even in the US but I did visit this city when I was a child. I felt in love with the Twins towers the first time I saw them on my way from Newark's airport to NYC. It was the sunset on a clear blue sky, at the beginning, from the bus, you could only see the top of them and then, suddenly, they appeared as two huge giants made of pure gold.

From this time, they have always meant to me that the human being had no limit, like a dream comes true.

When I went back home, I dreamt of my trip, bought as much books as I could about the city and its two sentinels. But I had to be sure it was not only a dream so I came back (many times) and I always felt the same whenever I saw them. I felt comfortable.

Even if the idea was attractive, I don't think it would have been a good idea to rebuild them, for we can not live in the past. After what happened, one has to be honest, something different had to be built.

However I do feel that what they represented to us will be missed forever.

Thank you Tom for your post.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 6:46 PM
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Before long, the height of this building will be appreciated, from all vantage points. I am excited not just for the construction but also for making something good on the site again and not have it just be known for tragedy. My own view is that they should stunt 2wtc a little just so 1wtc will stand out more, especially from Brooklyn.
     
     
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I guess the frustration that people have over the new WTC1 can be summed up this way; it is deceptively tall but only closer inspection it is less impressive as a tallest building in the US. Newspaper articles say it is 1,776' feet which is legit by CTBUH standards but the average person from say Chicago who doesn't know skyscrapers the way we do is going to read and say to themselves "The new WTC is 1,776' and the Sears Tower is only 1,451, wow that is so much taller, 325 feet!". In reality the Sears Tower will remain taller in roof height and have a higher observation deck. On the surface it beats the twins but in most respects it is struggling to tie what it had before. So when I read typical news stories championing it as the new tallest in the USA I can't help but think it is like a form of false advertising to the general public that don't know the nuances like we do and unlike when the Petronas Towers went up there are fewer articles even pointing out these nuances of spire vs. roof, no doubt because of the emotional 9/11 issues where there is a need for the nation to champion something. Don't get me wrong I actually like the new WTC complex very much but at the same time I understand the disappointment with some of the height aspects of it.
     
     
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