ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 811

Terminus · #**16201** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 2:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ant131531

Regardless, I strongly think the DRC of this area should recommend or even demand that they add some retail. No point in density if there's nothing to walk to around the area. The retail opportunity is also massive because there's a lot of students living around the area along with a stadium so people may go after games, not to mention the people living inside of the new apartment building itself.

We need to do things right.

There is no DRC. DRCs only exist in a few areas.

This said, retail is not an option. The zoning prohibits it.

micropundit · #**16202** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 3:06 AM**

(A rendering of the new event space envisioned for Centennial Olympic Park)

The $25 million plan to remake downtown Atlanta’s state-owned signature park got a big boost.The Woodruff Foundation will donate $10 million to the Georgia World Congress Center for its Centennial Olympic Park plan. The same foundation two decades ago helped lay the groundwork to transform the 21-acre park into a downtown jewel.The changes envisioned for Centennial include new event space on park grounds with a downstairs restaurant, turning a section of Andrew Young International Boulevard into a pedestrian walkway and a new entrance to the green space.

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2015/11/12/plan-to-remake-centennial-olympic-park-gets-a-10m-boost/

arctk2014 · #**16203** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 3:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by Terminus

There is no DRC. DRCs only exist in a few areas.

This said, retail is not an option. The zoning prohibits it.

They're seeking to rezone from RG-3 to MR-5A - mostly for more density (higher FAR); MR-5A doesn't forbid retail/commercial use but it does restrict it based on use and area of development. The zoning restricts the size of the retail but it doesn't forbid it. Supportive/accessory retail use is also allowed in the current zoning (RG-3) - again it's just limited but it's not forbidden under these uses.

Vaden · #**16204** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 7:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

I hope so. His only decent urban project is that way only because it was originally proposed that way and Fuqua just took over the project. Modera Morningside.

I am NO fan of Fuqua either, but I feel Lenox Marketplace (Dick's, Target) was a pretty good effort. It's biggest flaw that I can see is the fact that it could use more windows. But at least it fronts the street and has a wrapped parking deck instead of surface lots. It would have been great if it had more plentiful windows rather than the somewhat gymnasium style it has now. Jeff is just a lazy developer-always going for the easy way out (ie surface lots).

testarossa50 · #**16205** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 12:36 PM**

AMLI Arts Center has broken ground.

shivtim · #**16206** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 1:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

The average student has a whopping $210 of monthly discretionary income according to a statistic mentioned in the link below. I am going to make a broad assumption, but I would venture to say the majority of that allowance goes to booze, drugs, strip clubs, Spotify and Netflix. [/URL]

Spending all their money on drugs and strip clubs? I don't think you're very familiar with Tech students.

shivtim · #**16207** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 1:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by arctk2014

They're seeking to rezone from RG-3 to MR-5A - mostly for more density (higher FAR); MR-5A doesn't forbid retail/commercial use but it does restrict it based on use and area of development. The zoning restricts the size of the retail but it doesn't forbid it. Supportive/accessory retail use is also allowed in the current zoning (RG-3) - again it's just limited but it's not forbidden under these uses.

The rezoning request doesn't mention any retail, just residential and parking:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=7208935#post7208935
But you're right, the zoning would allow some retail here.

arctk2014 · #**16208** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 2:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by shivtim

The rezoning request doesn't mention any retail, just residential and parking:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=7208935#post7208935
But you're right, the zoning would allow some retail here.

I didn't see any retail in the plans either, but I don't see a huge need for retail on this spot as truly necessary - if it were the lot to the North that faces North Avenue (which I believe GA Tech still owns) I could see more of a need for some supportive retail that's just not student-oriented but neighborhood-oriented like a small grocer/market.

The more transient student-oriented housing isn't as strong of a demand for a large grocer when there's not much other commercial,supportive retail space nearby. There's a shuttle that takes students to Midtown MARTA and Publix just a few blocks from here anyways.

Frankster87 · #**16209** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 2:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by testarossa50

AMLI Arts Center has broken ground.

What a great thing to hear on a Friday morning!

ATLdev · #**16210** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 3:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vaden

I am NO fan of Fuqua either, but I feel Lenox Marketplace (Dick's, Target) was a pretty good effort. It's biggest flaw that I can see is the fact that it could use more windows. But at least it fronts the street and has a wrapped parking deck instead of surface lots. It would have been great if it had more plentiful windows rather than the somewhat gymnasium style it has now. Jeff is just a lazy developer-always going for the easy way out (ie surface lots).

Not defending him, but a wrapped deck doesn't make financial sense in a lot of his developments.

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**16211** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 3:26 PM**

New picture of Hanover Midtown facing southeast from Peachtree St. is up on the DRC November recap.

edit: Also I forgot about Lenox Marketplace. I agree, it is better than his typical developments, but it still is in my mind faux-urban since it is insular; you have to enter into the parking deck to access many of the stores in it. Plaza Midtown is an example of a good balance it has entrances to retail in the deck and at the street.

cabasse · #**16212** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 3:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Frankster87

What a great thing to hear on a Friday morning!

hell yeah!

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**16213** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 4:11 PM**

Delta is investing 2mil into a tech square innovation center in Tech Square:

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/blog/...lands-2m-delta-air-lines-innovation.html

And some new renders of the Braves stadium in the ABC:
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/print...sion-growing-into-cobb-mini-city.html#g1

bigstick · #**16214** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 4:43 PM**

Wow^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Libertarian · #**16215** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 4:57 PM**

Baseball Disneyland.

ATLmangum · #**16216** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 5:59 PM**

Yes Amli arts center is a go. I hope the use the same glass that is being used for their buck head project.

GTdan · #**16217** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 6:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATLmangum

Yes Amli arts center is a go. I hope the use the same glass that is being used for their buck head project.

Great news! I'm really looking forward to this development!

trainiac · #**16218** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 6:20 PM**

Apparently a crane fell (not sure which one) and hit some power lines. Power out for a big chunk of midtown -- I've heard North to 17th Street

Zanarkand A East · #**16219** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 6:27 PM**

I saw the excavators excavating at the AMLI Arts Center site too. I work nearby, so I'll keep an eye on the site.

jpk1292000 · #**16220** Posted **Nov 13, 2015, 6:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by trainiac

Apparently a crane fell (not sure which one) and hit some power lines. Power out for a big chunk of midtown -- I've heard North to 17th Street

Maybe it was the crane at Modera. I was in Midtown yesterday and it looks like that crane isn't straight. It bends at the top...