Winnipeg Construction VIII

[GORDBO]

I sure hope they don't throw up lights on the perimeter between henderson and Lag! The only logical thing to do , is build an overpass over Raleigh. And have access roads from there.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by rypinion

On the assumption that the East St Paul/SmartCentres goes through - what do people think is the best way for the development to have road access?

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...232023151.html

It's easy, make the developer pay for a simple diamond interchange at the Perimeter and Gateway/Raleigh. If they want to get creative let them negotiate with the Province and work together regarding incorporating the active transportation bridge project to try and save some money and resources......otherwise the project is a no go. Developers need to pay the majority of infrastructure costs in the US, why not here?

[oftheMoon]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

to bad the city is so gun hoe on taring the watkins building down

I don't know anything about the condition of this building or that the City wants it taken down, but it sure could be an iconic condo conversion for the Point Douglas area some years down the road as that area evolves.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Biff

It's easy, make the developer pay for a simple diamond interchange at the Perimeter and Gateway/Raleigh. If they want to get creative let them negotiate with the Province and work together regarding incorporating the active transportation bridge project to try and save some money and resources......otherwise the project is a no go. Developers need to pay the majority of infrastructure costs in the US, why not here?

I agree 100%. And if building an interchange ruins the economics of the project, then build somewhere else where one wouldn't be necessary.

[rypinion]

Where exactly is this shopping centre going? West or East of Raleigh? I've never been clear on that.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by rypinion

Where exactly is this shopping centre going? West or East of Raleigh? I've never been clear on that.

East of Raleigh, sandwiched up to the Perimeter and Lagimodiere.

[steveosnyder]

Originally Posted by rypinion

On the assumption that the East St Paul/SmartCentres goes through - what do people think is the best way for the development to have road access?

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...232023151.html

First thing, Browaty is an idiot for thinking another access should be built on the 101 or Lagimodiere. Second, If you are going to build accesses in places like Headmaster and/or Raleigh/Gateway, you can expect people (and businesses) will use them for their needs. If you didn't want people to drive off Lag onto Headmaster then you shouldn't have built an intersection there.

[steveosnyder]

Originally Posted by Biff

It's easy, make the developer pay for a simple diamond interchange at the Perimeter and Gateway/Raleigh. If they want to get creative let them negotiate with the Province and work together regarding incorporating the active transportation bridge project to try and save some money and resources......otherwise the project is a no go. Developers need to pay the majority of infrastructure costs in the US, why not here?

Originally Posted by esquire

I agree 100%. And if building an interchange ruins the economics of the project, then build somewhere else where one wouldn't be necessary.

I have a huge problem with this... So the developer pays for the initial interchange, but the Province is on the hook for the maintenance, all so Walmart can build? I don't think this 1 mall will pay for the upkeep in tax revenues, so basically the people of Manitoba will be subsidizing this continuously, forever.

F**k that, no thanks.

[factis]

Originally Posted by DonaldSmith

Here is a better link
http://www.winnipeg.ca/CLKDMIS/ViewP...ctionId=351399

Neither link seems to work for me.

[trueviking]

something shaking at the Dreman building

[wags_in_the_peg]

Originally Posted by trueviking

something shaking at the Dreman building

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Ahh, the building that is adverstising "new parking stalls" coming soon Sept 2009 or something like that. C'mon landlords, have a little pride and spend a few hundred bucks on a new sign. that sign has been up for 4-5 years.

[DonaldSmith]

Originally Posted by factis

Neither link seems to work for me.

Clerks updated the agenda here is the new link:
http://winnipeg.ca/CLKDMIS/ViewPdf.asp?SectionId=351463

They also added an agenda item about Parcel 4. Unfortunately it looks like it will be walked on and there is no info at this time.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by trueviking

something shaking at the Dreman building

That building has had a peculiar history. It was nearly vacant in the early 2000s before it was bought by a local owner and renovated. For a while it was either completely or nearly full, but then gradually tenants left, the lower level office space was converted to more parking, and now the office/retail space is for sale as condos, it appears.

I doubt that slapping a coat of black paint on the exterior is going to help the situation at all.

[bomberjet]

The supercentre will never go through. Plan and simple. Land will go up for sale and some houses will be built. That's the only logical option and fit's in with the rest of the area.

FYI for everyone. East St. Paul residents are already mooching off the city. Glenway is the dividing line between ESP and CoW. So on Glenway and Foxgrove there about a 1.5 block wide by 5 block long chunk of houses that are on city sewer and water, but pay taxes to ESP. I know they get charged for it, but what about the IJC and their whole thing with the water an CentrePort. Same situation here.

North of Foxgrove, west of Raleigh, east of Henderson is currebtly being developed into residential commercial as well. Not sure who's water supply they'll be on.

[Cyro]

Solution: Annexation or otherwise known as "boundary alteration". >>> E. St. Paul. Welcome to Winnipeg.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

to bad the city is so gun hoe on taring the watkins building down

Is that the 8-9 story building in Point Douglas?

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by rypinion

On the assumption that the East St Paul/SmartCentres goes through - what do people think is the best way for the development to have road access?

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...232023151.html

Until the new clover-leaf is built on the clusterfuck called Lag. and Prov. highway 101 nothing should be built! What decade has the NDP decided that NE Winnipeg warrants a completed intersection, 2020, 2030? The money thrown at Centre Port Way should have been used for existing roadways which in my mind were a bigger priority! Wouldn't you think the time to complete the intersection should have coincided with the completion of the twinning on the perimeter back 10 years ago!

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by GORDBO

I sure hope they don't throw up lights on the perimeter between henderson and Lag! The only logical thing to do , is build an overpass over Raleigh. And have access roads from there.

What benefit other than for residents of East St. Paul does that serve? You want access to a new power centre you design an underpass/overpass off Lag. and upgrade De Vries from Henderson to the site, don't think East St. Paul would be too interested because they would actually have to PAY FOR SOMETHING for change!~

SteveO, BomberJet bang on as well!

[Authentic_City]

Originally Posted by esquire

That building has had a peculiar history. It was nearly vacant in the early 2000s before it was bought by a local owner and renovated. For a while it was either completely or nearly full, but then gradually tenants left, the lower level office space was converted to more parking, and now the office/retail space is for sale as condos, it appears.

I doubt that slapping a coat of black paint on the exterior is going to help the situation at all.

Good info about that History here: http://winnipegdowntownplaces.blogsp...ge-avenue.html

[oftheMoon]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Is that the 8-9 story building in Point Douglas?

Yes it is: http://wbi.lib.umanitoba.ca/Winnipeg...ng.jsp?id=1231