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Old Posted Feb 25, 2026, 5:56 PM
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The AEG tower was actually announced last year if i remember correctly, it was supposed to be half hotel half apartments. Interesting pivot to see them claim to be just an apartment tower. I wonder if Oceanwide potentially coming online soon maybe made them reconsider the hotel component? at the end of the day we still need more hotel rooms.
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Just out of idle curiosity, what does this mean in practice and why did they do this
It means that the number of bathrooms required in "gathering areas" (which includes restaurants, entertainment spaces, podium decks, etc.) has increased. Why did they do this? Because the code gets increasingly worse and worse every time it is updated. There's always someone proposing a new rule, and there's never a cost-benefit analysis of that rule. Rules never get rolled back. It's why building costs have skyrocketed at a rate significantly higher than inflation in the last couple decades. This is a really significant problem.

The good news is that groups like California YIMBY are aware of this and are turning their attention to it. A bill passed last year pausing code updates for residential projects for 6 years. And I suspect we'll see more proposed laws in the next couple of years trying to chip away at some code issues (the single stair movement is one of these efforts). If we really want to see a difference though, there needs to be a full scale review of the code for both residential and commercial and a serious effort to make wholesale changes.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2026, 6:18 PM
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The AEG tower was actually announced last year if i remember correctly, it was supposed to be half hotel half apartments. Interesting pivot to see them claim to be just an apartment tower. I wonder if Oceanwide potentially coming online soon maybe made them reconsider the hotel component? at the end of the day we still need more hotel rooms.
TBH I'm pretty sure that instagram post is just wrong. You're correct that this was announced in late 2025 - Urbanize covered it. AEG has made clear this is not a near term project, but rather them teeing something up as a bet that the hotel market will improve in the area.

https://la.urbanize.city/post/renderings-revealed-aegs-proposed-dtla-high-rise-917-w-olympic-blvd
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2026, 6:53 PM
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That's the project I couldn't remember and was referring to at the beginning of this thread, I think that is old news.

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Old Posted Feb 25, 2026, 8:41 PM
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Yeah, it's all about the way occupancy is calculated. 20 years ago, jurisdictions had their choice for how to calculate number of plumbing fixtures, whether in Chapter 29 of the building code or in Chapter 4 of the plumbing code. That went away in 2006 and architects have been using the plumbing code since then.

However, six years ago, the state, in their infinite wisdom, implemented a code update that now requires the occupant loads used for exiting (Chapter 10) to be used to determine the number of fixtures. That's all fine and good, but exiting occupant loads are significantly higher than those in the plumbing code, mainly due to the idea that most people aren't using the facilities all at one time. The state said that's a bad idea and there should be enough toilets for everyone, all the time!

Stupid, and completely frustrating in that it essentially declared most facilities woefully inadequate in terms of number of fixtures (schools and gyms in particular).

There seems to be a provision in there that allows the local building official to still allow using the smaller plumbing code numbers, but it seems to be rarely implemented. I'm not sure at all about LADBS current standard as I have no projects in the City at the moment.

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It means that the number of bathrooms required in "gathering areas" (which includes restaurants, entertainment spaces, podium decks, etc.) has increased. Why did they do this? Because the code gets increasingly worse and worse every time it is updated. There's always someone proposing a new rule, and there's never a cost-benefit analysis of that rule. Rules never get rolled back. It's why building costs have skyrocketed at a rate significantly higher than inflation in the last couple decades. This is a really significant problem.

The good news is that groups like California YIMBY are aware of this and are turning their attention to it. A bill passed last year pausing code updates for residential projects for 6 years. And I suspect we'll see more proposed laws in the next couple of years trying to chip away at some code issues (the single stair movement is one of these efforts). If we really want to see a difference though, there needs to be a full scale review of the code for both residential and commercial and a serious effort to make wholesale changes.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2026, 10:07 PM
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2026, 11:06 PM
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^That's an absolute beast of a wrap apartment project! I'm guessing that Landmark is planning to hold on to it long-term and avoid ULA. I wonder if this hurts some of the other USC student housing, like the ones that Palmer built a bit further away from campus... or if there is enough demand to meet the supply?
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Dueling amphitheaters & the old Ports O Call now looks like a prefab warehouse district..

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but this was on its last legs, however...don't recall all the power lines...

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If new businesses like this were created in dtla, that would help fill up all the vacant office space...

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Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 6:21 PM
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^Those aerospace companies don't really make sense in DTLA unless they are corporate offices only. They could potentially be in the Arts District, but typically they need flex/industrial real estate and want to located in proximity to other aerospace companies they work with for sake of efficiency.
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^ I meant any type of new business in general. A lack of enough of that has been a problem for office space in dtla for over 25 yrs. During that same time, vacancy rates in cities like NYC, Boston, SF, chicago, seattle, etc, became very low.

6 years since Covid & with a lot more work from home, not sure if filling up commercial space in dt will be even harder sell. But I hope that dtla being less separate from West LA will help make it seem less "way, way over there".

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Getting from dtla to places like this & visa versa should help...

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Old Posted Feb 27, 2026, 2:41 AM
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Vacancy in downtown may be high, but Century City has the lowest vacancy rate of any submarket in America. So it's not all bad.
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Vacancy in downtown may be high, but Century City has the lowest vacancy rate of any submarket in America. So it's not all bad.
Downtown needs a huge cleanup, then it has so much potential. LA is in desperate need of new leadership.

Good news about Oceanwide though, and I found an article about AEG's tower on urbanize LA:


https://la.urbanize.city/post/aeg-plans-49-story-hotel-residential-tower-917-w-olympic-blvd-dtla


Can mods add this one to the first page? (49 floors and 631 feet)
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Vacancy in downtown may be high, but Century City has the lowest vacancy rate of any submarket in America. So it's not all bad.
I think it's fair to call Century City the best office market in the country outside of Manhattan. And in just 1-2 years it will be connected to DTLA by a ~17 minute subway ride!
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^Those aerospace companies don't really make sense in DTLA unless they are corporate offices only. They could potentially be in the Arts District, but typically they need flex/industrial real estate and want to located in proximity to other aerospace companies they work with for sake of efficiency.
Not sure if other agree with this, but my observation is that industry orientation is a bigger factor than NIMBYism as to why DTLA is so small. LA seems alot more focused on industries that require large expanses of land to operate on, whether that be manufacturing, aerospace R&D, logistics, and film studios and backlots, versus traditional white collar work other peer cities like Boston, NYC, Chicago or SF have tended to focus on. And I think this trend probably continues into the future, as the main growth industry in LA right now seems to be aerospace/defense engineering and manufacturing requiring large factories and engineering campuses, whereas in other cities like NYC are doubling down on white collar software or finance jobs.
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Longtime lurker since the mid 2000s here! I'm excited to be moving to DTLA very very soon. I've lived all over the west coast including Seattle and SD, and now I'm looking forward to contributing photographic construction progress updates for Oceanwide, convention center, and hopefully some of these approved towers.

I had a killer view at my apartment in SD, but I think LA and DTLA in particular are going to be more my speed lifestyle-wise. I'm not wealthy or well connected- just a creative urbanist.

Looking forward to sharing some photos from time to time once I get established!
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Downtown needs a huge cleanup, then it has so much potential. LA is in desperate need of new leadership.

Good news about Oceanwide though, and I found an article about AEG's tower on urbanize LA:


https://la.urbanize.city/post/aeg-plans-49-story-hotel-residential-tower-917-w-olympic-blvd-dtla


Can mods add this one to the first page? (49 floors and 631 feet)
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2026, 7:42 PM
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Longtime lurker since the mid 2000s here! I'm excited to be moving to DTLA very very soon. I've lived all over the west coast including Seattle and SD, and now I'm looking forward to contributing photographic construction progress updates for Oceanwide, convention center, and hopefully some of these approved towers.

I had a killer view at my apartment in SD, but I think LA and DTLA in particular are going to be more my speed lifestyle-wise. I'm not wealthy or well connected- just a creative urbanist.

Looking forward to sharing some photos from time to time once I get established!
Welcome! Feel free to check out the first page to see what's currently u/c and what's in the pipeline.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2026, 8:08 PM
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Longtime lurker since the mid 2000s here! I'm excited to be moving to DTLA very very soon. I've lived all over the west coast including Seattle and SD, and now I'm looking forward to contributing photographic construction progress updates for Oceanwide, convention center, and hopefully some of these approved towers.

I had a killer view at my apartment in SD, but I think LA and DTLA in particular are going to be more my speed lifestyle-wise. I'm not wealthy or well connected- just a creative urbanist.

Looking forward to sharing some photos from time to time once I get established!
Awesome, welcome! DTLA has a lot to offer.
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Also for the first page homebucket,

-Crossroads of the world Hollywood towers approved.
-Palladium towers Hollywood approved (developer: Crescent Heights of 10000 Santa Monica bl and 1045 South Olive Street)

Newly proposed Hollywood tower as of feb 2025 42 floor mixed use residential tower at 6800 Sunset bl (SW corner sunset/highland)
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I think downtown would greatly benefit from having a dedicated city council member.
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