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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 4:26 AM
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The winners' list of the 2022 Municipal Election is as follows, with incumbency mentioned in brackets for a bit of clarity.

Mayor-Andrea Horwath

Ward 1-Maureen Wilson (2018 Incumbent)
Ward 2-Cameron Kroetsch
Ward 3-Nrinder Nann (2018 Incumbent)
Ward 4-Tammy Hwang
Ward 5-Matt Francis
Ward 6-Tom Jackson (2000 Incumbent)
Ward 7-Esther Pauls (2018 Incumbent)
Ward 8-John-Paul Danko (2018 Incumbent)
Ward 9-Brad Clark (2018 Incumbent)
Ward 10-Jeff Beattie
Ward 11-Mark Tadeson
Ward 12-Craig Cassar
Ward 13-Alex Wilson
Ward 14-Mike Spadafora
Ward 15-Ted McMeekin

10 of the 16 council seats have new occupants, and only 1 long-time councillor remains on a Horseshoe that's looking a lot newer than that chamber has in a while.

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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 9:48 AM
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Just a small correction to Ritsman’s helpful overview: Tom Jackson has actually been the ward 6 incumbent since 1988. At least one of the new councillors wasn’t even born when he was first elected!

On another note, the results in wards 4 and 14 are so ridiculous. How much of a mandate does someone have if they “won” their seat with 22 per cent of the vote? We really need ranked ballots in municipal elections.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 10:34 AM
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Horwath winning, what a close race that was. Let’s see how she governs with actual power now, especially considering the PCs are expected to announce expanded strong mayors powers today, including Hamilton.

I’m curious to see how she leads.


Generally a shockingly new council for a midsized municipality. Council is going to be a very, very different place.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 12:16 PM
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The election went almost exactly the way I wanted with the exception of the mayors seat and also wishfully wanting to see Brad Clark tossed out on his ass, that guy was an arrogant combative loser on camera for so many city hall discussions. Also bummed Kojo didn't get his seat, that was another close race.

Overall this is a great day for Hamilton, we have lots of fresh competent & compassionate faces in city hall for a change!
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 1:19 PM
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I thought this was a skyscraper forum not a rant about personal political views.

Perhaps the politics can be moved to its own spot and those interested can have at it.

The loudest voice in the room not usually the correct one.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 1:21 PM
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I mean this is very clearly a political thread, it's not like the discussion is happening in a project thread. If you don't like politics maybe don't click on a politics thread?
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 1:46 PM
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So glad Kojo lost. That guy would have been a disaster for council.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 4:42 PM
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The Ottawa CMA didn't pass the Hamilton CMA for population until 1982 or so.. so yea, old Hamilton is much denser than old Ottawa, particularly since it was a larger metro even during the 1960's / 1970's apartment boom.

Calgary looks dense with all it's highrises, but they are mostly office buildings. The daytime population downtown is clearly a lot larger than Hamilton, but the residential population is almost non-existent north of the rail corridor.
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It's important to remember the disparity of age between those cities as well. Hamilton was established about 200 years ago, and incorporated decades before Ottawa or most cities out west were really established. That, and the explosive growth of the city in the 19th century - when those aforementioned cities were being established - results in a longer-established city all around, with a reflective housing stock.
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The Ottawa CMA didn't pass the Hamilton CMA for population until 1982 or so.. so yea, old Hamilton is much denser than old Ottawa, particularly since it was a larger metro even during the 1960's / 1970's apartment boom.

Calgary looks dense with all it's highrises, but they are mostly office buildings. The daytime population downtown is clearly a lot larger than Hamilton, but the residential population is almost non-existent north of the rail corridor.
I lived in Calgary for 5 years so I'll chime in:
North of the rail corridor (Downtown Commercial core, East Village, Eau Claire, Chinatown, Downtown West End) is roughly 20,000 residents.

South of the rail corridor Beltline (Ward 11 + Ward 8 sections): ~25,000
Total greater "Downtown" population: ~45,000
source: 2019 Calgary civic census

Look closely at the skyline and you'll notice a lot more high rise residential than one initially realizes. There's 43 Million square feet of office space Downtown, and another 6.2 Million square feet in the Beltline for almost 50 Million total square feet, ~16 Million square feet of which (14M Downtown, 2M Beltline) is currently vacant!

source: CBRE Downtown office figures Q3-2022
CBRE Suburban office figures Q3-2022

I searched for downtown Calgary and came up with this recent proposal
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Massive downtown Calgary development proposed along Stephen Avenue
By Adam MacVicar Global News
Posted May 10, 2022 9:32 pm

The development will include three towers on top of a multi-storey podium: a 24-storey office tower, a 54-storey rental tower and a 66-storey condo tower, which would be the largest skyscraper in western Canada.
This is the same company that built Saskatoon's River Landing project.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8823491/m...tephen-avenue/

Here's the diagram page for Calgary sorted by u/c and completed by most recent projects (a crazy amount of high rise residential built recently and to come online in the next few years)
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=98911887

What is Hamilton's current downtown population?

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I think you guys are in the wrong thread

This is supposed to be the angry political one
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I think you guys are in the wrong thread

This is supposed to be the angry political one
Okay that made me laugh hard!
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2022, 5:23 PM
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Strong start to the new city council, already accusing the press of racism. Going to be an interesting four years to say the least.
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Strong start to the new city council, already accusing the press of racism. Going to be an interesting four years to say the least.
Hamilton politics are ALWAYS interesting, at least if one lives here. It's the unknowns that are of current interest... i.e., we KNEW what Terry Whitehead would do, and how some of the "suburban" councillors would behave, but now it's a wait and see
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Interesting night last night at City Hall.... Already seeing the progressive alliance breakdown, with Kroetsch not making any friends. M. WIlson coming out with a statement condemning the protest at City Hall, while Kroetsch was actively participating in it. Going to be a wild few years with this council haha
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Interesting night last night at City Hall.... Already seeing the progressive alliance breakdown, with Kroetsch not making any friends. M. WIlson coming out with a statement condemning the protest at City Hall, while Kroetsch was actively participating in it. Going to be a wild few years with this council haha
The craziest part of it all is that the protest was being led by Kroetsch’s bestie, Sabreina Dahab, who is an elected official herself!
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The craziest part of it all is that the protest was being led by Kroetsch’s bestie, Sabreina Dahab, who is an elected official herself!
Yep, makes you wonder if Kroetsch knew about it in advanced and was part of the planning, i'm sure he did. Which puts him in quite an awkward position, and honestly isn't very becoming of a city councilor.

I also found it super interesting that Nann was getting heckled by the protestors too. Kroetsch isn't going to have many allies at Council or City Hall pretty soon.
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It's only been a few months and Kroetsch has already been a disaster, although he's managed to fool a few of his twitter fans.
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I'm incredibly pleased with Cllr. Kroetsch so far. He has been significantly more active with the community, communicated much more, and his staff has been incredibly responsive so far. I'm also happy that he is doing exactly what he ran on in his platform.
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