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This is a problem? Once they sell or they die, the taxes are due. TBH, I am surprised only 6000 homeowners are taking advantage of this program. Not sure what this has to do with renters. Homeowners can only defer their taxes on their principal residence. I suppose Garth Turner would rather the owners be kicked out of the homes that the have lived in for decades.

I mean, 500%. OMG, from 1200 to 6000. The horror! That could just be due to more people aging into the eligibility of the program.
If you can't afford to pay your property taxes, you shouldn't be living in that property. That tax deferment is paid for by everyone, the money missing from general revenue has to be replaced. Why should empty nest seniors get a break like this vs. first time buyers with a young family?
     
     
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Vancouver home sales drop 40% in January, inventory grew by 14% over December. Will be interesting to see when the spec builders realize the Chinese money train has slowed, and when they start to blink.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-...ticle33878876/
     
     
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Vancouver home sales drop 40% in January, inventory grew by 14% over December. Will be interesting to see when the spec builders realize the Chinese money train has slowed, and when they start to blink.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-...ticle33878876/
The numbers are all over the place in that article. I wish they'd provide some context:

1. Jan 2016-2017 was a 40% drop, but Jan 2016 was an all time record, so... what is the past 5 year average?

2. Inventory up 14% since Dec. Ok, so what is the normal amount? We all know the start of the year generates more listings and sales into the spring and summer.

Lame news.

Edit: there is a graph at the bottom with Januaries of the past. Jan 2017 is down from the last few years but similar to the 10-year trent.

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More like SFH inventory is up as those who can afford them step back to do a wait-and-see analysis. Can't keep pumping money into a price-levelling commodity right? However, good luck on finding condos with free-falling pricing for sale, especially those around the more desirable neighbourhoods.

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Census counts 25,502 unoccupied homes in Vancouver, more than double the estimate by City Hall

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Published on: February 8, 2017 | Last Updated: February 8, 2017 12:43 PM PST


The latest census numbers for 2016 show there were 25,502 unoccupied or empty housing units in the City of Vancouver. It's a number that is 15 per cent higher than recorded during the last census in 2011, but that is more than double an estimate released by city hall last year, which used different criteria. Wayne Leidenfrost / PROVINCE


The latest census numbers for 2016 show there were 25,502 unoccupied or empty housing units in the City of Vancouver.


It’s a number that is 15 per cent higher than recorded during the last census in 2011, but that is more than double an estimate released by city hall last year, which used different criteria.


The census counts the number of “total private dwellings” and “private dwellings occupied by usual residents.” Its definition of unoccupied units means those that were vacant on census day, including properties for rent or sale, ones that have been purchased, but whose owners have not yet moved in, as well as furnished units that are second residences.


It also includes units that are used on a temporary basis and/or by foreign residents. In the 2011 census, just over 4,000 of the 22,000 units “not occupied by usual residents” were used by temporary and foreign residents, according to Ryan Berlin, senior economist at the Rennie Group, who made a custom request following the general census release to get the breakdown, which, for 2016, he hopes will be available from StatsCan in a few months.


The release is interesting as the discussion on housing affordability has focused on homes that are used mostly as a commodity for hedging value as opposed to a home or an investment. There are many ways, not to mention time-frames and exceptions to consider, when trying to define, for policy-making what constitutes an empty or under-used home.


In March 2016, the City of Vancouver commissioned a private firm to analyze the extent of empty homes by using B.C. Hydro data. Looking at 225,000 homes over a decade, it found that by 2014, under five per cent or 10,800 units could be considered unoccupied for a year or more. A whopping number 90 per cent of these housing units deemed to be “non-occupied” because electricity usage didn’t hit a certain threshold over a certain number of months were condos. For all condos, it found 12.5 per cent were vacant.


In November 2016, city council voted to approve a tax on empty homes, the first in Canada. Based on self-reporting owners, the tax is a one per cent charge on homes that are not principal residences or are not rented out for at least six months of the year. The goal is to improve Vancouver’s tight rental vacancy rate of 0.6 per cent by encouraging owners of thousands of empty units to offer them up for renting.


Urban planner Andy Yan of Simon Fraser University’s City Program compared census data over several decades to see how the percentage of “unoccupied” units or ones “occupied solely by foreign residents and/or temporary present residents on census day” has doubled. In 1986, it was four percent, rising to 8.2 per cent in 2016.


The city of Vancouver far outstrips other municipalities with 25, 502 units that are unoccupied or owned by temporary or foreign residents. Yan said most of these were concentrated in three areas: Coal Harbour, Marine Gateway and Joyce-Collingwood. Surrey came in second at 11,195, Burnaby at 5,829 and Richmond 4,021.


The number of unoccupied units or ones occupied by temporary or foreign residents increased 25 per cent in Richmond between the 2011 and 2016 census and by 28 per cent in Burnaby.


However, some of the widest percentage jumps occurred between the 2001 and 2006 census.


Said Yan: “There is an ongoing question. It’s not just what we are building, but who are we building for?”


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New condo-sale rule brings relief to many, grief to some

B.C. law seeks to end protracted sales process and provide financial escape route for owners in rundown buildings
By Glen Korstrom | March 14, 2017, 8:08 a.m.

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B.C. law seeks to end protracted sales process and provide financial escape route for owners in rundown buildings
By Glen Korstrom | March 14, 2017, 8:08 a.m.

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...The new law raises the possibility that seniors and other owners and tenants on fixed incomes could be forced out of their homes – a prospect that is particularly daunting in the Lower Mainland given the huge run-up in the region’s real estate prices.

Nonetheless, developers are excited about the new law because it could bring a new stream of potential development sites into the market....


The part I bolded tells you everything you need to know about why the BC Fibs brought in these changes, it has nothing to do with their interest to "provide financial escape route for owners in rundown buildings".

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When there's such a shortage of development sites, you can't help but agree with the new policy

If the strata votes to sell then it's very likely because they will reap a sizable profit, or escape a nightmare situation. Not really a bad policy imo.
     
     
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Now enforce the empty home tax and you have 300-500 million dollars just like that. In 2-3 years they could gather the money they need on Broadway Skytrain. Easy money if they would just want to enforce the laws put in place.
     
     
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Now enforce the empty home tax and you have 300-500 million dollars just like that. In 2-3 years they could gather the money they need on Broadway Skytrain. Easy money if they would just want to enforce the laws put in place.
Funny how we haven't heard a peep about Gregor's empty home tax, or how successful it has(n't) been.
     
     
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Funny how we haven't heard a peep about Gregor's empty home tax, or how successful it has(n't) been.
Probably because it doesn't take effect until 2018.
     
     
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Probably because it doesn't take effect until 2018.
Really, he announced it last year and won't implement it until then? No doubt so he can't be held accountable for the predictable lame results in the Nov. 2018 election.
     
     
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Really, he announced it last year and won't implement it until then? No doubt so he can't be held accountable for the predictable lame results in the Nov. 2018 election.
If it had started immediately for 2017 you'd no doubt be complaining about the lack of consultation....
     
     
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Vancouver isn't alone in foreign buyers and the attendant empty homes syndrome. A recent study showed a shocking 4 out of 5 homes in London were sold to foreigners, and we see developers try to use the same song and dance the world over:

...Developers insist foreign investment plays a key role in funding construction and helps to boost the overall supply of new homes.

But Transparency International says the flow of overseas money into prime London property is fuelling the housing crisis by pushing up prices and shutting domestic buyers out.

Director of policy, Duncan Hames, said: “For Londoners priced out of buying a home, it’s bad that so many developments are instead desig- ned to meet the tastes of wealthy overseas investors then left under-used.”

The findings on the 14 new developments show that investors from Singapore, China, Malaysia and the Gulf are among those dominating purchases.

At Baltimore Wharf, for example, 87.4% of 299 homes analysed for its report went to overseas buyers. It says these include 96 from Singapore, 77 Chinese investors, and 15 from Malaysia.

Britons account for 36 of the known buyers, equivalent to less than 13%...



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This has flown under the radar, but the article claims it could be a gamechanger for real estate sales. Buyer beware if that seller isn't from Canada:

A B.C. Supreme Court ruling will send shock waves through the arm of the Canadian real-estate market that is powered by foreign capital, say immigration lawyers.

The ruling targets a weakness in Canadian laws that often leads foreign owners of real estate in cites such as Metro Vancouver and Toronto to claim they are “residents of Canada for tax purposes” when they are not.

The landmark B.C. decision requires notary public Tony Liu to pay his client more than $600,000 because Liu failed to adequately determine whether the Vancouver house his client was buying for $5.5 million had been owned by a tax resident of Canada.

As a result, the Canada Revenue Agency did not get paid, at the time of the sale, the 25 per cent capital gains tax it charges non-resident sellers of Canadian property on any profit they make on the sale...


http://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/homea...id=mailsignout
     
     
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This has flown under the radar, but the article claims it could be a gamechanger for real estate sales. Buyer beware if that seller isn't from Canada:

A B.C. Supreme Court ruling will send shock waves through the arm of the Canadian real-estate market that is powered by foreign capital, say immigration lawyers.

The ruling targets a weakness in Canadian laws that often leads foreign owners of real estate in cites such as Metro Vancouver and Toronto to claim they are “residents of Canada for tax purposes” when they are not.

The landmark B.C. decision requires notary public Tony Liu to pay his client more than $600,000 because Liu failed to adequately determine whether the Vancouver house his client was buying for $5.5 million had been owned by a tax resident of Canada.

As a result, the Canada Revenue Agency did not get paid, at the time of the sale, the 25 per cent capital gains tax it charges non-resident sellers of Canadian property on any profit they make on the sale...


http://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/homea...id=mailsignout

this is great news .... its people like Tony Liu I blame for he housing market the way it is now. I hope he rots in hell
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The tech industry and transit hubs drive demand for Vancouver commercial real estate

In Vancouver, the real estate buying frenzy has attracted much attention and speculation. And although the city's residential real estate market is often dominating the headlines, what’s happening on the commercial side of things? Kevin Desmond, CEO of TransLink, and Bart Corbett, senior vice president at Cushman & Wakefield, discuss a few key trends we’re seeing in Vancouver’s commercial real estate market.

Development centred around transit hubs
TransLink CEO, Kevin Desmond, suggests that businesses situated on transit lines have access to a broader customer and employee base, and that’s one reason for the flurry of development around transit hubs. “Transit hubs in Metro Vancouver are growing rapidly, and that will play a significant role in the growth strategy of the region as it prepares to welcome a million new residents over the next 25 years,” Desmond adds. “This is something businesses and developers recognize, and we’ll see the addition of millions of square feet of commercial space around the SkyTrain in the coming years.”

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Retail will overtake real estate as Vancouver's top-performing economic sector

A new report from the Conference Board of Canada says Vancouver's economy is still going strong, but the real estate slowdown has had an impact

By: Jen St. Denis Metro Published on Fri Mar 03 2017

After leading Canada in economic growth in 2015 and in job creation in 2016, Vancouver’s economy is expected to slow in 2017 — and the main reason is a slowdown in the housing market.

With real estate and the associated finance and insurance sectors slowing, retail will be Vancouver’s top performing economic sector in 2017.

The Conference Board of Canada projects a still-healthy economic growth rate of 2.7 per cent for Vancouver, down from 4 per cent in 2016 and 4.1 per cent in 2015.

The Conference Board says federal and provincial policies that were designed to cool overheated real estate markets like Vancouver’s are behind the real estate slowdown, and that’s also affected sectors like finance and insurance.

Real estate and construction combined make up 25 per cent of British Columbia’s gross domestic product — around the same percentage oil and gas and mining represent for Alberta.

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Strathcona building sold for more than $2 million above value

The property was sold for $8.8 million and has an assessed value of $6.3 million

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Three transit-oriented communities in Metro rival Coal Harbour for empty or underused housing
Published on: March 30, 2017 | Last Updated: March 30, 2017 6:31 PM PDT

Transit-oriented communities are often called the future for Metro Vancouver, with condo towers and townhouses clustered around stores and amenities like theatres along major public transit lines.

The seeming success of these properties, especially along SkyTrain lines, has been evident as development after development is declared “sold out” by developers.

But figures from the latest census are raising questions about that appearance of success, according to some researchers.

The percentage of units that are empty or could be considered underused is over 20 per cent in areas around Joyce-Collingwood, Marine Drive and Metrotown stations, according to Andy Yan, director of Simon Fraser University’s City Program. The Joyce and Marine Gateway areas both posted 24 per cent; Metrotown was at 22 per cent.

This makes them much higher than the nine per cent in the same census numbers for the Olympic Village area or the 8.2 per cent average for the City of Vancouver.

“Why is this happening? If eight per cent is the average, over 20 per cent is a freak show,” said Yan.

It also puts those areas in the same category as Coal Harbour, which clocked in at 22 per cent and where darkened windows have come to epitomize the effect of global capital investing in real estate as a commodity.

Transit-oriented areas look much like Coal Harbour in census statistics. PNG

The census uses the term “units occupied by usual residents.” Anything outside of that is considered empty or occupied by temporary residents, such as students or seasonal workers, and foreign residents, though how many of each hasn’t been broken down.

Usually, temporary residents are found in areas popular with tourists, such as downtown, or close to a big school, such as the UBC Endowment Lands.

Joyce, Marine Gateway and Metrotown instead are areas of so-called transit-oriented development.

“The transit-oriented developments are really about vibrancy, being close and creating economic vitality as you have declining populations in other (more single-family home) areas,” said Anne McMullin, president of the Urban Development Institute, which represents developers. She was surprised by the findings because in most transit-oriented developments, sales are to people planning to occupy the units, adding it would be hard to comment “without delving into the details of each mini-market.”

Jennifer Gray-Grant, executive director at Collingwood Neighbourhood House, finds the census figures perplexing. From her community centre vantage point, programs are packed and the parks are well-used.

“You go to Coal Harbour, you feel it,” she said of the sense of emptiness. “But you don’t feel (that) here.”

Craig E. Jones, a graduate student at the University of B.C., wonders if the census numbers are a red flag. He has been researching areas where aging purpose-built rentals are torn down to make way for high-density transit-oriented development. Often, the rental buildings are run down and only a few storeys high, but are affordable to lower income families.

“It does raise the question of speculation in transit-oriented developments. A major justification for density in these areas around transit is that the population is growing.” People are coming to Metro Vancouver, and they need to be housed, said Jones.

“But if in the 2016 census, the percentage of units that don’t fit into the category of being lived in by usual residents is over 20 per cent, meaning one in five is not occupied by usual residents, does that justify what we are doing?”

Between 2011 and 2016, 648 additional housing units were added in the Joyce area, 969 in Marine Gateway and 1,690 in Metrotown.

The number of empty or underused units jumped to 791 from 103 in Joyce, a 688 per cent increase. In Marine Gateway, it went up by 575 units and in Metrotown by 891 units.

Yan, who has been looking at what empty or underused homes mean for affordability, said the focus in Coal Harbour was the impact of global capital. But since then, and in these other areas, the picture is a combination of global capital and local investors tapping “fast capital and cheap capital.”

He and Jones both caution there may be a lag time in these areas: Perhaps they are still in the process of being transformed into full-scale transit-oriented communities.

“Developers consider it a commercial success when properties are sold out,” Yan said.

“Once you build (and sell) units, they may not immediately be occupied. It doesn’t mean they are housing people. It could take time, but we need to understand building around (transit) and the tenure (conditions under which land or buildings are held or occupied), and consider patterns of speculation. It’s not just about putting in units near transit nodes.”
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