Whitecaps MLS news - Page 8

raggedy13 · #1 Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 1:21 AM**

I'd like to add that I was at the Canucks game last night and I had this thread in mind at the time. The crowd at the game was as diverse as the streets of the city. Proportionally the crowd was maybe slightly less East Asian and slightly more South Asian, but still lots of East Asians (just probably not ~40% of the arena). Nobody at a Canucks game could claim hockey is a white person's sport, at least not in terms of spectators. Wait another generation and I bet Canadian players of Chinese, Indian, etc descent will be more common as well.

Now let's try to get back on topic. Feel free to continue this discussion in a separate thread though.

Obviously not surprised that Portland won their MLS bid. Will certainly make things more interesting in this part of the continent.

LeftCoaster · #2 Posted **Mar 20, 2009, 10:16 PM**

So today, as a white Canadian, I am not a Caucasian? Odd.

Caucasian means your genetic make up is traceable back to the area of the Caucasus mountains, and whatever incorrect context it is used in today is inconsequential. I am a Caucasian, an Arab is a Caucasian, a Russian is a Caucasian, A Persian is Caucasian, an Argentinian of Portuguese descent is a Caucasian... I think you get the point. Pretty much if you are not black, Asian or Aboriginal you are of Caucasian descent.

vanlaw · #3 Posted **Mar 20, 2009, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

So today, as a white Canadian, I am not a Caucasian? Odd.

Caucasian means your genetic make up is traceable back to the area of the Caucasus mountains, and whatever incorrect context it is used in today is inconsequential. I am a Caucasian, an Arab is a Caucasian, a Russian is a Caucasian, A Persian is Caucasian, an Argentinian of Portuguese descent is a Caucasian... I think you get the point. Pretty much if you are not black, Asian or Aboriginal you are of Caucasian descent.

That pretty much describes it. From an anthropology perspective, the human skeleton falls into three cataegories:

Caucasoid - self explanatory
Negroid - Self explanatory
Mongoloid - this covers what would commonly be referred to as "Asian" and interestingly, North American Aboriginal.

giallo · #4 Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 5:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by vanlaw

That pretty much describes it. From an anthropology perspective, the human skeleton falls into three cataegories:

Caucasoid - self explanatory
Negroid - Self explanatory
Mongoloid - this covers what would commonly be referred to as "Asian" and interestingly, North American Aboriginal.

You missed the fourth category which are the Australian aboriginals. They are completely different from any other race on the planet in their skeletal make up.

Sorry. OT. Just wanted to add that.

Stingray2004 · #5 Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 5:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by giallo

You missed the fourth category which are the Australian aboriginals. They are completely different from any other race on the planet in their skeletal make up.

But more importantly, posters here have forgotten about the fifth category of human species. And from my own UBC Anthropological 101 class, same would be classified as the Aleusus Bundycus... a very distinct species... and the following pic should be self-explanatory:

Source: An anthropological blogspot

PS. My lineage is German... of the non-"sauerkraut" kind.

djmk · #6 Posted **Mar 20, 2009, 10:34 PM**

a definition is so broad its meaningless

back to topic, Portland was named the 18th team today. The Pacific Northwest is going to be a soccer heaven!

flight_from_kamakura · #7 Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 12:03 AM**

^ this is a pretty bad point to interject, but depending on what you mean by caucasian, latin america has very few caucasian people.

Vancity · #8 Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 7:07 PM**

how well is ticket registration coming along for the mls 'caps? i know they opened the doors for sales this morning at 10 am. sell out already? haven't heard any news about it...anyone know how they're doing selling their tickets?

Denscity · #9 Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 7:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vancity

how well is ticket registration coming along for the mls 'caps? i know they opened the doors for sales this morning at 10 am. sell out already? haven't heard any news about it...anyone know how they're doing selling their tickets?

Global noon news/sports is reporting 3000 out of 5000 deposits have already been taken in as of 12:25pm. Not bad for less than 2.5 hours of sales.

Vancity · #10 Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 7:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Denscity

Global noon news/sports is reporting 3000 out of 5000 deposits have already been taken in as of 12:25pm. Not bad for less than 2.5 hours of sales.

wow. that's not bad. we'll sell out for sure

nice, very nice.

i wonder if the whitecaps will tinker with their uniforms a bit. keep the name, but change the uniforms a little? i like to keep the name "whitecaps", but i also like our logo to be a bit aggressive, a bit more intimidating, a bit more serious looking.

Innersoul1 · #11 Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 7:20 PM**

Congrats Van-City!! This is a huge accomplishment for your city and the game of soccer in this country! WELL DONE!

Denscity · #12 Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 7:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Innersoul1

Congrats Van-City!! This is a huge accomplishment for your city and the game of soccer in this country! WELL DONE!

Thanks dude!

crazyjoeda · #13 Posted **Mar 22, 2009, 6:00 AM**

I think the MLS will do really well here. I went to Grizzlies games when I was a kid and we had a team. The Vancouver market will only support a team if it can win at least half the time. Fans turn on the Canucks if they don't win and in the 90's we came close to losing the NHL.

That said I think that MLS will do well in Vancouver; I know a lot of people here love watching soccer. Im sure that Vancouver's MLS games will be at least as popular if not more popular than BC Lions games.

Vancity · #14 Posted **Mar 22, 2009, 7:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by crazyjoeda

I think the MLS will do really well here. I went to Grizzlies games when I was a kid and we had a team. The Vancouver market will only support a team if it can win at least half the time. Fans turn on the Canucks if they don't win and in the 90's we came close to losing the NHL.

That said I think that MLS will do well in Vancouver; I know a lot of people here love watching soccer. Im sure that Vancouver's MLS games will be at least as popular if not more popular than BC Lions games.

i couldn't have agreed with you more. the vancouver market will only support a team that will win. it's a tough market. the NBA and the grizz...well, they didn't...sorry, couldn't, even win half their games. in 6 years of pathetic, sorry basketball, i think the grizzlies only managed to have 1 season where they supassed 20 games. does my memory serve me correct? or have they never won more than 20 games in a season while they were here?

i wonder if the NLL ravens are going to come back to this city? lacrosse is another sport, i think, this city would support as well.

LeftCoaster · #15 Posted **Mar 23, 2009, 11:49 PM**

It just started this week I believe and runs through summer to November. Pretty ideal schedule to pick up bored hockey fans like myself.

DKaz · #16 Posted **Mar 24, 2009, 12:21 AM**

Will they allow all 58,000 seats to be filled if the demand is there?

mr.x · #17 Posted **Mar 24, 2009, 12:49 AM**

^ i don't see any reason why they wouldn't allow all seats to be filled if there was enough demand.

mrjauk · #18 Posted **Mar 24, 2009, 2:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by mr.x2

^ i don't see any reason why they wouldn't allow all seats to be filled if there was enough demand.

Actually, there are a lot of reasons. It's the same reason why the Montreal Canadiens' management have stated that if they were given another chance, they would have built their new arena to seat a few thousand fewer than the 22,000+ they seat right now.

They maintain this position despite the fact that the arena is full every night. So why would they do this?

It's about creating/manipulating supply, which then has an impact on demand.

Think about the behavioral economics aspect of a potential ticket buyers' decision to attend a match/game in two different situations:

1) Knowing that s/he can just walk up to the ticket window at game-time and grab one of the remaining 5 or 6 thousand seats,

versus

2) Having to purchase weeks in advance in order to assure that one can attend the event.

Hong Kongese · #19 Posted **Mar 24, 2009, 7:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by mrjauk

Actually, there are a lot of reasons. It's the same reason why the Montreal Canadiens' management have stated that if they were given another chance, they would have built their new arena to seat a few thousand fewer than the 22,000+ they seat right now.

They maintain this position despite the fact that the arena is full every night. So why would they do this?

It's about creating/manipulating supply, which then has an impact on demand.

Think about the behavioral economics aspect of a potential ticket buyers' decision to attend a match/game in two different situations:

1) Knowing that s/he can just walk up to the ticket window at game-time and grab one of the remaining 5 or 6 thousand seats,

versus

2) Having to purchase weeks in advance in order to assure that one can attend the event.

Interesting logic.

Spork · #20 Posted **Mar 24, 2009, 3:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hong Kongese

Interesting logic.

Simple supply and demand. Profits are maximized where price elasticity = 1 (where marginal benefit equals marginal cost).