Whitecaps MLS news - Page 8

djmk · #**141** Posted **Mar 20, 2009, 10:10 PM**

i think all of you need a study in the definition on the word "caucasian"

as it is used today, it means white american.

however, before that it meant "relating to a broad division of humankind covering peoples from Europe, western Asia, and parts of India and North Africa"

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/caucasian?view=uk

but i regress, lets get back on topic.... Whitecaps rule

LeftCoaster · #**142** Posted **Mar 20, 2009, 10:16 PM**

So today, as a white Canadian, I am not a Caucasian? Odd.

Caucasian means your genetic make up is traceable back to the area of the Caucasus mountains, and whatever incorrect context it is used in today is inconsequential. I am a Caucasian, an Arab is a Caucasian, a Russian is a Caucasian, A Persian is Caucasian, an Argentinian of Portuguese descent is a Caucasian... I think you get the point. Pretty much if you are not black, Asian or Aboriginal you are of Caucasian descent.

djmk · #**143** Posted **Mar 20, 2009, 10:34 PM**

a definition is so broad its meaningless

back to topic, Portland was named the 18th team today. The Pacific Northwest is going to be a soccer heaven!

vanlaw · #**144** Posted **Mar 20, 2009, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

So today, as a white Canadian, I am not a Caucasian? Odd.

Caucasian means your genetic make up is traceable back to the area of the Caucasus mountains, and whatever incorrect context it is used in today is inconsequential. I am a Caucasian, an Arab is a Caucasian, a Russian is a Caucasian, A Persian is Caucasian, an Argentinian of Portuguese descent is a Caucasian... I think you get the point. Pretty much if you are not black, Asian or Aboriginal you are of Caucasian descent.

That pretty much describes it. From an anthropology perspective, the human skeleton falls into three cataegories:

Caucasoid - self explanatory
Negroid - Self explanatory
Mongoloid - this covers what would commonly be referred to as "Asian" and interestingly, North American Aboriginal.

Pinion · #**145** Posted **Mar 20, 2009, 10:43 PM**

nm

Rusty Gull · #**146** Posted **Mar 20, 2009, 11:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by djmk

i think all of you need a study in the definition on the word "caucasian"

as it is used today, it means white american.

however, before that it meant "relating to a broad division of humankind covering peoples from Europe, western Asia, and parts of India and North Africa"

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/caucasian?view=uk

but i regress, lets get back on topic.... Whitecaps rule

I have never heard anyone use the word caucasian interchangably with "white American."

Left Coaster's description is on the mark.

I'm excited about Portland's admission to the league. It gives Vancouver three natural rivals: Toronto, Seattle, and Portland. The Whitecaps will have a much more forgiving travel schedule than the Canucks, interestingly enough.

twoNeurons · #**147** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 12:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by djmk

you must forgive me. it is just that i hate the word "caucasian". i have no idea what it means because absolutely no person (lets say person from european decent) uses it to describe themselves.

are italian, portuguese, turkish, argentinian, brazialian, spanish caucasians? all great soccer nations. none of them refer to themseles as caucasians.

Well, if you'd prefer, we could go by the older terms: Hamitic, Japhetic, and Semetic.

I remember reading that anthropologists feel that you can pretty accurately classify humans origins into 3 classes... with a few that don't seem to fit, like the aboriginals in Australia.

edit: Yeah answered by vanlaw.

And yeah... Whitecaps rule. If they ever changed the name, it would probably just change to Vancouver FC. Soccer tends to do that. I'd like a less comic-looking logo, personally.
I like Toronto's

flight_from_kamakura · #**148** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 12:03 AM**

^ this is a pretty bad point to interject, but depending on what you mean by caucasian, latin america has very few caucasian people.

djmk · #**149** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 12:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by Rusty Gull

I have never heard anyone use the word caucasian interchangably with "white American."

Left Coaster's description is on the mark.

i guess i spent my childhood watching too much COPS. trust me when i say nowhere else but in north american is this term used. i just wiki'd it. but nevermind my rant, it's just a word that got underneath my skin.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Gull

I'm excited about Portland's admission to the league. It gives Vancouver three natural rivals: Toronto, Seattle, and Portland. The Whitecaps will have a much more forgiving travel schedule than the Canucks, interestingly enough.

i am excited!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm thinking about dropping the $50 to reserve my place in line. however, i kinda want to know how much these season tickets are going to cost

raggedy13 · #**150** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 1:21 AM**

I'd like to add that I was at the Canucks game last night and I had this thread in mind at the time. The crowd at the game was as diverse as the streets of the city. Proportionally the crowd was maybe slightly less East Asian and slightly more South Asian, but still lots of East Asians (just probably not ~40% of the arena). Nobody at a Canucks game could claim hockey is a white person's sport, at least not in terms of spectators. Wait another generation and I bet Canadian players of Chinese, Indian, etc descent will be more common as well.

Now let's try to get back on topic. Feel free to continue this discussion in a separate thread though.

Obviously not surprised that Portland won their MLS bid. Will certainly make things more interesting in this part of the continent.

agrant · #**151** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 1:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by Overground

It's now on the front page at MLS and you can watch the news conference live at 10.15am - http://web.mlsnet.com/index.jsp

Here's the Caps page for live video again - http://www.whitecapsfc.com/announcement/

In regards to the BC Place not being a SSS. With the inner roof creating an intimate setting for 22k people. Lenarduzzi is right, it will become an SSS. The term is for a stadium with the main focus of hosting soccer matches in an intimate setting, but also hosting other sports like lacrosse or grid-iron. Some people have come to think the term means soccer only.

So it can also become a tractor pull specific stadium, gridiron specific stadium, trade show..., concert... know what I'm sayin? Seems multi-purpose to me. BC Place was designed from the beginning to allow for all kinds of things. Putting a new roof on doesn't change anything. Anyway, call it what you will.

giallo · #**152** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 5:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by vanlaw

That pretty much describes it. From an anthropology perspective, the human skeleton falls into three cataegories:

Caucasoid - self explanatory
Negroid - Self explanatory
Mongoloid - this covers what would commonly be referred to as "Asian" and interestingly, North American Aboriginal.

You missed the fourth category which are the Australian aboriginals. They are completely different from any other race on the planet in their skeletal make up.

Sorry. OT. Just wanted to add that.

Stingray2004 · #**153** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 5:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by giallo

You missed the fourth category which are the Australian aboriginals. They are completely different from any other race on the planet in their skeletal make up.

But more importantly, posters here have forgotten about the fifth category of human species. And from my own UBC Anthropological 101 class, same would be classified as the Aleusus Bundycus... a very distinct species... and the following pic should be self-explanatory:

Source: An anthropological blogspot

PS. My lineage is German... of the non-"sauerkraut" kind.

Metro-One · #**154** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 5:57 AM**

Thats what i find funny, here white people and latinos/other South Americans like to think we are very different from each other, but when you travel to Africa, to the people there, all the people in the Americas are the same; Westerners/Caucasians. But just like culture, with all of the current and historical mixing there really are no "true" races, just broad terms that have very grey edges. In a way (because they have been isolated so long) the aboriginals of Australia are the closest to being a truly separate race, but i am sure they have had lots of mixing now in current history with European/world expansion onto the continent.

Vancity · #**155** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 7:07 PM**

how well is ticket registration coming along for the mls 'caps? i know they opened the doors for sales this morning at 10 am. sell out already? haven't heard any news about it...anyone know how they're doing selling their tickets?

Innersoul1 · #**156** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 7:20 PM**

Congrats Van-City!! This is a huge accomplishment for your city and the game of soccer in this country! WELL DONE!

Denscity · #**157** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 7:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vancity

how well is ticket registration coming along for the mls 'caps? i know they opened the doors for sales this morning at 10 am. sell out already? haven't heard any news about it...anyone know how they're doing selling their tickets?

Global noon news/sports is reporting 3000 out of 5000 deposits have already been taken in as of 12:25pm. Not bad for less than 2.5 hours of sales.

Denscity · #**158** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 7:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Innersoul1

Congrats Van-City!! This is a huge accomplishment for your city and the game of soccer in this country! WELL DONE!

Thanks dude!

vansky · #**159** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 7:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by NetMapel

If Vancouver Whitecaps are smart, they will not repeat the shameful Grizzlies' mistakes and include the huge Asian population in their marketing campaign. We Asians are crazy for soccer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpdNL6Sv4tU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEsR7Guk294

Like I said in that NBA Grizzlies thread, the impact to Canucks will be minimal because hockey is still mostly a Caucasian sport than an Asian sport.

agree, more asians enjoy soccer, but what level is north american soccer, i hope it's worth a watch.

i watched almost every game of the griz, they were hopeless and loserish, eventually i gave up.

vansky · #**160** Posted **Mar 21, 2009, 7:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by NetMapel

If Vancouver Whitecaps are smart, they will not repeat the shameful Grizzlies' mistakes and include the huge Asian population in their marketing campaign. We Asians are crazy for soccer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpdNL6Sv4tU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEsR7Guk294

Like I said in that NBA Grizzlies thread, the impact to Canucks will be minimal because hockey is still mostly a Caucasian sport than an Asian sport.

agree, more asians enjoy soccer, but what level is north american soccer, i hope it's worth a watch.

i watched almost every game of the griz, they were hopeless and loserish, eventually i gave up.