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Old Posted Nov 26, 2020, 4:31 PM
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Not the prettiest shot but it shows the great density of downtown. Such density continues in Montcalm and St-Sauveur to the west and Limoilou to the north.


https://www.journaldequebec.com/2020...-gouvernements
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WOW!!! that is a fantastic shot of Quebec City!! beautiful!!
     
     
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Not the prettiest shot but it shows the great density of downtown. Such density continues in Montcalm and St-Sauveur to the west and Limoilou to the north.


https://www.journaldequebec.com/2020...-gouvernements
Wow. That is really impressive.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2020, 5:32 PM
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Seriously, that’s one of the best aerial of Quebec city ever posted here. Even more remarkable because we hardly see the old city. Fantastic!


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Not the prettiest shot but it shows the great density of downtown. Such density continues in Montcalm and St-Sauveur to the west and Limoilou to the north.


https://www.journaldequebec.com/2020...-gouvernements
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2020, 5:57 PM
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It's crazy how seldom we see that view of Quebec. It certainly is impressive, though.
     
     
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What exactly is the part of QC with the towers around Parliament and whatnot called? I don't think people say "Downtown Quebec" like they say "Downtown Montreal" (or Centre-ville). It isn't Old Quebec and I don't know if it is part of St-Jean-Baptiste, as I associate that more with the older, denser part to the north.
     
     
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What exactly is the part of QC with the towers around Parliament and whatnot called? I don't think people say "Downtown Quebec" like they say "Downtown Montreal" (or Centre-ville). It isn't Old Quebec and I don't know if it is part of St-Jean-Baptiste, as I associate that more with the older, denser part to the north.
We generally refer to it as La colline parlementaire. A little bit of this area to the north is considered a part of Saint-Jean-Baptiste (the congress centre for example). Then, going towards south-west, it becomes Montcalm. Vieux-Québec refers to the walled city plus the Basse-Ville / Petit-Champlain -- Place-Royale area.
     
     
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^ thanks. Basically the Parliamentary area, then (even though it's not just Parliament).
     
     
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Seriously, that’s one of the best aerial of Quebec city ever posted here. Even more remarkable because we hardly see the old city. Fantastic!
Absolutely. Old Quebec is overrepresented to such an extent that people forget there's a dense city beyond it.

I'm always amazed to find myself walking in Quebec city, how it's density and built vernacular reminds me so much of Montreal.
     
     
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Absolutely. Old Quebec is overrepresented to such an extent that people forget there's a dense city beyond it.

I'm always amazed to find myself walking in Quebec city, how it's density and built vernacular reminds me so much of Montreal.
Yes indeed. Montcalm per example remind me alot of the Mile-end.
On the other hand, St-Jean-Bapstiste looks a bit more unique to Québec City...I don't remember anything like this in Montréal unless I am mistaking something...
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Montcalm is very much uniquely Quebec city. The closest analogue I can think of in Montreal is Pointe St-Charles.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2020, 10:37 PM
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Yes indeed. Montcalm per example remind me alot of the Mile-end.
On the other hand, St-Jean-Bapstiste looks a bit more unique to Québec City...I don't remember anything like this in Montréal unless I am mistaking something...
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.8087...7i13312!8i6656
Limoilou, which we don't see in the skyline pic I posted above, reminds me tremendously of Montreal with it rows after rows of thighly stacked triplexes and spiraling staircases.



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So what is the percentage for lowrise apartments of say 3 stories in Montreal to have those outside stairs? I've never really paid attention when there.

Isn't it awkward when you're chilling on your chair there and the person(s) that live above you come walking like two feet by you? And vice versa, when you're leaving your apartment and you walk by the person below you. And can you even leave your window open when you're inside?

If the person is walking up with a bunch of groceries, do people feel obliged to help?

I know a couple weeks ago the dangers of snow and ice on those stairs (exacerbated when moving furniture, hauling groceries and holding kids) was discussed but what about the social aspect? Do people actually like that setup, if it promotes a little bit more human interaction? Though if I didn't care about or worse, hated my neighbour then I think it would get real awkward.

A few years ago I was visiting my buddy in Lansing, MI where he was doing some school. Three of us came back from breakfast and his student neighbour was in the hallway on the floor crying and of course I felt obliged to help but my buddy and his roommate right away when he saw her said don't even think about it. She's a cracked out cunt. He says she's always throwing wild parties till 3am on a Wednesday while she knows half of us have to go to work and half of us half to go to class in morning. She would be real awkward to pass on the balcony all the time.

Then there's also nice people who like to say hi to but don't want to stop and chat because you have nothing in common. Do people feel obliged to chat or is there an unwritten code that you just nod, say hi and keep moving?

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^ I never considered the social 'code' involved with that type of staircase arrangement... those are interesting questions.
     
     
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^ I never considered the social 'code' involved with that type of staircase arrangement... those are interesting questions.
I actually never thought about it much either, probably because I suppose that it's not significantly different from living in proximity to other people in a multitude of other arrangements.

Every "multi" housing type has its particularities.
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I have live most of my life in streets with triplexes. I can guarantee you that the stairs and the balconies encourage friendly interaction between neighbors. It's very convivial and it has many advantages: in the summer, the stairs can be used to put flowers or to grow vegetation, you can sit on them to chat between friends, it actually brings the inside outside. As for the intimacy, it's never been a problem to me. Beside, it keeps the noise outside compare to inside stairs.

Movers hate them I guess, but they are no worse than narrow inclosed stairs.
     
     
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It's an odd peculiarity. Makes sense in the Sunbelt, Latin America, most of Europe. It doesn't make sense in Quebec City to not have stairs winterized.
     
     
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