The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by DyAm00394

When you look online it says it's a myth that solar panels only perform well in perfect weather conditions. "Whether it's fog, rain, or even a combination of both, solar panels can still generate electricity and contribute to significant savings on monthly electricity bills". Other websites say: "Today, the majority of solar panels work at around 50% efficiency during foggy conditions.

If that’s the case, the port should be looking at installing panels on many of their large buildings with huge surface areas on their roofs. Saint John has buildings all over the city that would be ideal for solar panels, and we also have the only forward thinking electric utility in the province in Saint John Energy.

In general, I think the fog issue is absolutely overblown regarding Saint John. Saint John ranks considerably similar compared to Moncton both in terms of sunshine hours and sunny days. 1947 sunshine hours for SJ versus 2002 sunshine hours for Moncton & 283 sunny days versus 293 sunny days.

Some people just really lean into the dismal stereotypes of fog, overcast, and rain, and Saint John’s reputation for this type of weather is far more than the reality. There’s all kinds of potential for solar power in Saint John, and it helps that we’re among the lowest latitude cities in Canada. It’s just too bad daylight savings robs us of an hour of sunlight in the evening each winter. It would be so much better if NB stayed on daylight savings time all year.

[darkharbour]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

If that’s the case, the port should be looking at installing panels on many of their large buildings with huge surface areas on their roofs. Saint John has buildings all over the city that would be ideal for solar panels, and we also have the only forward thinking electric utility in the province in Saint John Energy.

In general, I think the fog issue is absolutely overblown regarding Saint John. Saint John ranks considerably similar compared to Moncton both in terms of sunshine hours and sunny days. 1947 sunshine hours for SJ versus 2002 sunshine hours for Moncton & 283 sunny days versus 293 sunny days.

Some people just really lean into the dismal stereotypes of fog, overcast, and rain, and Saint John’s reputation for this type of weather is far more than the reality. There’s all kinds of potential for solar power in Saint John, and it helps that we’re among the lowest latitude cities in Canada. It’s just too bad daylight savings robs us of an hour of sunlight in the evening each winter. It would be so much better if NB stayed on daylight savings time all year.

Luckily solar panels don't care about what label we give at any given moment of the day, they just generate electricity.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by darkharbour

Luckily solar panels don't care about what label we give at any given moment of the day, they just generate electricity.

There would be an impact if we stayed on daylight savings time all year round, though. People tend to use more electricity in the early evening, so if the sun sets an hour later the benefit would be greater, since battery storage for solar power is not perfectly efficient and our storage capacity remains limited as is.

It’ll never make sense to me why we switch back to standard time each Nov and go from 6pm sunsets to 5pm sunsets. Even on the shortest day of the year the sunset time would be 5:45pm if we stuck daylight savings time year round. That sure as hell beats 4:45!

[homebody]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

There would be an impact if we stayed on daylight savings time all year round, though. People tend to use more electricity in the early evening, so if the sun sets an hour later the benefit would be greater, since battery storage for solar power is not perfectly efficient and our storage capacity remains limited as is.

It’ll never make sense to me why we switch back to standard time each Nov and go from 6pm sunsets to 5pm sunsets. Even on the shortest day of the year the sunset time would be 5:45pm if we stuck daylight savings time year round. That sure as hell beats 4:45!

So is a 9:04 sunrise ok with you in December?!

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by homebody

So is a 9:04 sunrise ok with you in December?!

Yeah, of course. Wouldn’t a 9:04 sunrise and 5:45 sunset be preferable to 8:04 sunrise and 4:45 sunset?

It wouldn’t be pitch black at 8:30 in the morning, either. The former seems far preferable than the latter. I’ve never understood the huge concern about sunrise happening too late in the winter.

Sunrise is at 8:57am in Regina, SK on December 21st…and they make out just fine.

An hour later sunset > an earlier sunrise, imo, and it’s not even close.

Far more fatal traffic accidents happen on the commute back home from work in the evening than the commute to work in the morning.

So an hour later sunset would help keep the roads safer too.

[homebody]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

Yeah, of course. Wouldn’t a 9:04 sunrise and 5:45 sunset be preferable to 8:04 sunrise and 4:45 sunset?

It wouldn’t be pitch black at 8:30 in the morning, either. The former seems far preferable than the latter. I’ve never understood the huge concern about sunrise happening too late in the winter.

Sunrise is at 8:57am in Regina, SK on December 21st…and they make out just fine.

An hour later sunset > an earlier sunrise, imo, and it’s not even close.

Far more fatal traffic accidents happen on the commute back home from work in the evening than the commute to work in the morning.

So an hour later sunset would help keep the roads safer too.

Ok.... Next lol. Ill give up. So anything else of more importance happening in good old Saint John?

[CharlotteSJ]

I always suggested we adjust it back 30 minutes and permanently leave it alone.

[TitleRequired]

Originally Posted by CharlotteSJ

I always suggested we adjust it back 30 minutes and permanently leave it alone.

Half an hour later in newfoundland, they used to say...

[britsy]

https://financialpost.com/pmn/busine...20early%202025.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by TitleRequired

Half an hour later in newfoundland, they used to say...

The Maritime provinces should be on DST for the entire year, and Newfoundland could all be on Atlantic DST for half the year, then fall back 30 mins each fall, back to Newfoundland time.

I just checked December 21st sunset in St. John’s… 4:12pm… that’s grim!

4:42pm sunsets on the shortest day of the year would be slightly less terrible for the other SJ.


During covid only one province or territory took the opportunity to make the change to permanent DST, and that was Yukon. I think the entire country would benefit from making that permanent switch. Shouldn’t be something we wait for US Congress to act on, as many provinces have stipulated

If we wait for that, it will never happen.

[cdnguys]

[cdnguys]

[RaginRonic]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

This is located at 1506 Loch Lomond Road, on the same property as the Coast II Coast Market.

And I believe this marks Gulf's return to Saint John after more than 35 years as well.

I guess I should say...Welcome Back to the Port City, Gulf Gas! =)

[sailor734]

I understand they are rebranding XTR stations (independent retailers) to Gulf. Wonder if the former Cook's Esso in Millidgeville will be next

By the date on this story it's been a slooooooooow rollout.

https://fuelsmarketnews.com/gulf-sig...see-in-canada/

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

That’s pretty cool. The sign… not the price of gas.

[DyAm00394]

The proposed 76-unit, (five story), development for 1750 Sandy Point Road has passed the first and second reading at tonight’s public hearing, despite the opposition against this project.

Developers, Stephen Brittain and Bill Dunnett spoke at the hearing. If all approved will be between 6 months to a year for the design work of the building. So overall around 12-18 months for start time.

They are aiming for it to be more of an high-end development with 10% affordable, and are still unsure if it will be apartments or condos (if there is interest for condos).

[TitleRequired]

Originally Posted by DyAm00394

The proposed 76-unit, (five story), development for 1750 Sandy Point Road has passed the first and second reading at tonight’s public hearing, despite the opposition against this project.

Developers, Stephen Brittain and Bill Dunnett spoke at the hearing. If all approved will be between 6 months to a year for the design work of the building. So overall around 12-18 months for start time.

They are aiming for it to be more of an high-end development with 10% affordable, and are still unsure if it will be apartments or condos (if there is interest for condos).

Quite a few buildings legally are setup as condos and sold to be rented out. Looking at paol you see the small rectangles that represent the title 😉

Is there an agreed formula for “affordable”?

[sailor734]

New school announced for the old Worker's Comp site in Grand Bay

https://www.thewave.ca/2024/09/05/fo...bay-westfield/

So much for idea that was floating around of using it a major inpatient addiction treatment and/or mental health centre for the province.

[adamuptownsj]

Originally Posted by sailor734

New school announced for the old Worker's Comp site in Grand Bay

https://www.thewave.ca/2024/09/05/fo...bay-westfield/

So much for idea that was floating around of using it a major inpatient addiction treatment and/or mental health centre for the province.

Inglewood site would make easy SFH or semi-detatched infill; Grand Bay Primary site could be the same, but may be suited to MUR. Not much of that in GBW.

This should be cheaper than building a new school out here, I figure.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by adamuptownsj

Inglewood site would make easy SFH or semi-detatched infill; Grand Bay Primary site could be the same, but may be suited to MUR. Not much of that in GBW.

This should be cheaper than building a new school out here, I figure.

Yes, I expect that is part of the attraction. The news release seemed to indicate the new school would only occupy a portion of the existing building. I wonder what other compatible uses might be for the rest?