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Old Posted Jun 20, 2023, 3:55 AM
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I don't think they leave the house lol
Weather is great now and they're just looking for doom.

Eh.

Does the sf forum bring up these issues?
I doubt it.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2023, 5:34 AM
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I used to wonder what type of oddballs loved watching the jerry springer or maury povich show. smh. Serious discussions about dtla & all the ins & outs of it are way more interesting to me than springer type yakkity yak. Again, smh.

As for the new connector line, a lot of scenes in this vid aren't too different from what I experienced yesterday, probably a bit quieter since today since it's a weekday & I believe free trips may have ended today too....or more ppl didn't know about them & were less likely to take advantage of testing the system.

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^ Towards the end of Sunday afternoon, & although I could tell the MTA rail lines were treated by staff on their best behavior, with greeters at the new stations & the system probably cleaner & more closely patrolled than it normally is, I came away not wondering about the new transit lines in LA, or how dt is affected by them, but by how LA in general works against ppl wanting to move throughout it. Or ppl on foot instead of in cars rushing down roads & fwys. I think if LA were like a bigger version of beverly hills or santa barbara, or pasadena, Samo, laguna bch, larger numbers of ppl would be more willing to connect with it...& not just in an uber or prius, but also on trains, buses, bikes, on their feet strolling down sidewalks. Think of how the aesthetics of various european cities inspires lots of ppl to want to explore them instead of being nervous, hesitant or apathetic. The ppl managing LA have to become more ambitious....step up their game.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2023, 7:12 AM
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I don't think they leave the house lol
Weather is great now and they're just looking for doom.

Eh.

Does the sf forum bring up these issues?
I doubt it.
No, the other regional Projects and Construction threads I have been part of, including San Francisco's, are not allowed to get relentlessly spammed with negativity and off-topic bugaboos like power poles, fountains, etc.
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As the pandemic shut down office life in Los Angeles’ downtown financial district, Claude Cognian tried to keep his gastropub Public School 213 open. But the evacuation of white-collar workers made way for an influx of homeless people and drug users — and more than a few troublemakers striding in the front door.

“It was hard to keep hostesses at the door, because they got scared,” said Cognian, chief executive of the restaurant’s parent company, Grill Concepts Inc. Three break-ins cost as much as $12,000 each time just to repair the windows, all while the bottom line was cratering in the absence of the office employees who used to gather for lunch and after-work drinks. With sales down 75% from pre-pandemic days, his company closed the downtown gastropub in August and is not planning to return.

“Our bet was that downtown was going to come back, and it hasn’t,” Cognian said.

“Cities evolve. That’s what they do,” downtown L.A. business representative Nick Griffin said. “From natural disasters, wars and pandemics. They evolve with market changes, customer preferences and cultural shifts. Downtown has evolved pretty dramatically over the last 20 years and the next five or so are going to be very interesting.”

Many companies have returned to their offices, but on a limited basis as their employees work some days from home. “For Lease” signs clutter building fronts, tacked over restaurants and bars that once served lively hordes of office workers. Graffiti marks windows.

In the early 20th century, elite social clubs the Jonathan Club, California Club and Los Angeles Athletic Club erected new buildings on the west side of downtown where property was relatively cheap. Soon the rooming houses, small apartment buildings and ramshackle Victorian homes there gave way. Richfield and other oil companies headquartered there, the seeds of today’s financial district.

In “the Jetsons era,” as Fischer described the 1960s, corporate leaders viewed the Spring Street-centered office district as increasingly obsolete and passé, and moved to newer buildings in the financial district. Downtown lost a lot of its lifeblood during that time, he said.

By the 1980s, much of downtown was moribund; buildings that once thrummed with commerce were dilapidated and vacant or underused. There were pockets of vibrancy, notably the Jewelry District and a Latino-centric shopping zone that emerged among aging buildings along Broadway in the Historic Core. The Civic Center around City Hall remained one of the largest concentrations of public administrative buildings in the country, employing thousands of workers. But the financial district was the shiny thriving part of the city, a high-rise office park for lawyers, bankers and accountants who piled into their cars for a mass exodus at the end of each workday.

Decades of efforts to add rail service and thousands of apartments and condominiums helped create a more vibrant downtown that was taking on the flavor of other big cities before the pandemic.

“All of a sudden people were walking dogs and pushing baby carriages,” architect Martha Welborne said. “New restaurants came in, even destination restaurants that weren’t just for the people who worked downtown or lived there.”

Fortunately for downtown’s future prospects, its apartment towers remain nearly fully occupied. More than 35,000 units were built after 1999, when so few people lived there that downtown didn’t even have a big-chain grocery store. Three new hotels have recently opened and a 42-story apartment tower will start leasing later this year. Bottega Louie, one of the region’s top-grossing restaurants before it shut down for the pandemic, reopened in 2021. A few blocks away, legendary Beverly Hills steakhouse Mastro’s also opened a seafood restaurant last year near Crypto.com Arena.

Restaurateur Prince Riley recently leased a spot on Grand Avenue that was last home to the Red Herring restaurant. He grabbed it because he liked the location and it was already built-out for upscale dining. “You can see all the love and care that went into this space,” he said. “They were a casualty of COVID.”

Riley and his wife plan to open their restaurant, named Joyce, in July, featuring Southern-style seafood such as crudo, ceviche and a raw bar. They moved into the apartment building upstairs to be close to it. The couple likes being near Bottega Louie, a popular Whole Foods grocery store and the recently opened Hotel Per La, which took over a lavishly refurbished 1920s building last occupied by another hotel that closed early in the pandemic.
“I can see business picking up,” Riley said. “This is an opportunity from a terrible tragedy like COVID. We wouldn’t have had this otherwise.”

A key factor keeping downtown teetering between recovery and a further downward slide appears to be discomfort with the streets and the sense that they are not as safe as they were before the pandemic. The blocks close to Metro’s underground 7th Street/Metro Center station where, multiple light and heavy rail train lines meet, are among those that have changed most since the pandemic as the Metro system struggles to combat rampant drug use and serious crimes such as robbery, rape and aggravated assault on its lines.

The growing number of homeless people on the streets has been an issue in other cities too, said Cognian of Public School. His company also closed restaurants in Seattle and San Francisco because customers at their urban locations trickled away as unhoused people commandeered the sidewalks.

Real estate broker Derrick Moore of CBRE, who specializes in matching restaurant and shop operators with landlords, said retail space leasing downtown has improved in recent months, especially compared to the dark days of the 2020 pandemic shutdown when downtown fell silent.“It seems like ancient history,” Moore said, “but it was very devastating to one’s psyche.” And to downtown businesses. In the wake of the COVID shutdown, downtown overall lost more than 100 food and beverage establishments with a combined footprint of more than 1 million square feet, Moore said.

“When we started to look at space it became very clear to us that locating in the financial district was a very different proposition than it used to be,” said Matt Umhofer, a partner at Umhofer, Mitchell & King. “Downtown has changed dramatically, and we wanted to rethink what it means to be a law firm in Los Angeles and let go of preconceived notions of needing to be in the financial district in order to be relevant.”

The fledgling firm opted instead for an office in Row DTLA, a campus of shops, restaurants and offices created out of century-old warehouses near the Arts District, east of the financial center, even though office rents in the Arts District are often higher than they are in the glitzy skyscrapers. “The short version is, being in the financial district isn’t as cool as maybe it was in the past,” Umhofer said.

The downtown office vacancy rate — the share of total space that is unleased — climbed to 24% in the first quarter, up from 21.1% a year ago, according to CBRE. More empty space is coming, the brokerage said, pushing estimated availability to a daunting 30% as some companies shrink their offices or move away from downtown. Law firm Skadden, for example, a large longtime tenant in downtown’s Bunker Hill district, has decided to move its offices to Century City.

btw, lots of things to comment about regarding dtla & its devlpt, planning, culture & economy. ALL those things affect devlpt, new projs, old projs. If ppl aren't aware of that, they must not be really interested in the topic of 'dtla. Or they must want a very, very dry set of postings about dtla. Personally, I'm not into fan boys & fan girls of any topic....that to me is way too one sided & often very dry or misleading, incomplete, non transparent.

I dropped by the forum on Toronto a few months ago & since so many new projs are occurring there, I noticed that just mainly one person was able to post a lot about dt toronto. Plenty of articles, but so dry & almost mechanical it wasn't very interesting to me. It was like looking at a brochure handed out by a company doing office & apt leasing. Maybe dtla should be so lucky, but I found that thread about Canada's main city so much the same thing, it was kind of lifeless. But, okay, that's just me.
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Residential conversion planned for 33-story office tower at 1055 7th Street

Jamison Services would transform the former ARCO Tower into apartments

Steven Sharp
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June 19, 2023



Much has been said about the departure of corporate headquarters from Downtown Los Angeles in recent decades. Likewise, much has been written in recent months about the ongoing struggle's of the neighborhood's office market, and the possibility of converting millions of square feet of unused space into housing. Now, watch as those two narratives collide.

Just west of the US-110 Freeway stands a 33-story, approximately 600,000-square-foot office tower completed during the late 1980s office boom. While the building was once named ARCO Tower for the oil and gas company that once called it home, the property has gone by 1055 7th Street since the departure of its namesake tenant more than two decades ago. It most recently housed offices for Los Angeles County's L.A. Care health plan, which will be relocating into a 370,000-square-foot space at a neighboring building in 2024.

Landlord Jamison Services, Inc., faced with the daunting task of leasing a large high-rise in an era where such buildings have fallen out of vogue, will instead pivot. The Koreatown-based firm has submitted an application to the L.A. Department of City Planning seeking approvals to convert the upper floors of 1055 7th Street into housing. Plans call for a total of 691 studio, one-, two-, and three-bedroom apartments, ranging from 538 to 1,304 square feet in size, as well as nearly 48,000 square feet of amenities such as theaters, fitness rooms, lounges, and business centers.

The proposed project, as an adaptive reuse development, is not required to incorporate affordable housing. Likewise, no additional parking is required for 1055 7th Street, which is already served by adjacent garage with capacity for more than 1,100 vehicles.



Plans included with the entitlement application show that the exterior of the tower, which was designed by Gin Wong Associates, would be retained in its original state, although inset balconies replace some windows along the exterior. The tower, which rises approximately 464 feet in height, is characterized by stone veneer cladding and a hexagonal footprint on its upper levels.

While adaptive reuse is responsible for much of the residential community that now exists in Downtown Los Angeles, it had mostly been concentrated in historic bank buildings along corridors such as Spring Street and Main Street. However, there is already a track record of such projects in newer high-rise structures on the west side of the 110. Existing towers to the north at 1010 Wilshire and 1100 Wilshire have already been transformed into apartments and condominiums, respectively.

The City of Los Angeles, as part of its efforts to provide capacity at least 255,000 additional homes by 2029, has looked to expand adaptive reuse to other neighborhoods as well. Jamison Services has long been active in that arena, converting numerous office towers along the Wilshire corridor into housing within the past decade.

The conversion of 1055 7th Street could help to jolt a number of stalled projects to life in the surrounding area. Neighboring parcels to the west have been approved for redevelopment with high-rise residential buildings, but have yet to move forward.
This was glossed over due to citywatch groaning about water fountains and the goings on in the Toronto forum a couple of months ago but this is pretty great news. I knew someone who worked on the 27th floor on the northwest corner. I always liked this building. The top of the parking garage would make for a great and large amenity deck. The lower roof would be a great rooftop pool. Always loved that waterfall at the entrance. Maybe this'll spur some new development in City West.

And in terms of office building conversions, 611 Place needs to have some eyes gazed upon it.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2023, 5:09 PM
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Just walked around downtown la for 2 miles.
Didn't see one tent. Few homeless.
No screamers. Way cleaner.
That's good to hear. The last time I was on the subway, which was over a year ago, there was this homeless person ranting and raving about some random crap. After awhile I noticed he was saying the same things over and over again - the exact same words and phrases on a loop, none of which made any sense. It was actually very sad to see. There was open hostility to anyone who even looked in his direction so everyone just tried to mind their own business, like you do when you're on public transit. We're told to just ignore these things or pretend it doesn't exist, as if that will make it go away. Don't bother calling any authorities because we know not a damn thing will be done about it. It's a real shame that city leaders seem to cater to the homeless and mentally ill here, while ignoring the needs of residents and actual contributing members of society. They think they are being compassionate to those who are less fortunate, but really all they're doing is enabling anti-social behavior, and causing good people to stay the hell away. Anyway, that is why I haven't been on public transit for over a year now, although I look forward to checking out the regional connector at some point.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2023, 5:18 PM
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This was glossed over due to citywatch groaning about water fountains
I vaguely recall your mentioning awhile ago that chicago was much cleaner than dtla is. You groan about that, I'll groan about the ppl who manage LA being 'who gives a damn!?' about things like dtla's decorative fountains. fair deal?

meanwhile, I also recall some longtime users in the dtla ssp forum several months ago saying that they had stopped using transit in LA...to dtla included...because of experiences that sound like the following. If the mta doesn't get a handle on these issues, billions of dollars will go up in smoke...& LA's reputation as a city where ppl don't use public transit will continue.

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To the editor: On its opening day, I rode the Metro light rail through the gleaming new Regional Connector stations in downtown Los Angeles. The stations were well patrolled by police and volunteers, which meant those staff were not anywhere else.

As soon as we rode south of the 7th Street/Metro Center station, the craziness started. A man entered the train talking loudly and rapidly to himself then lit a cigarette. When I told him there was no smoking, he dared me to do something about it, and no other passengers spoke up. Later a woman played loud music on her phone. From what I could tell, someone also lit up a joint.

There wasn’t a single police officer to be found. I wondered what would happen if I pressed the emergency button — I really just wanted some way to report this so an officer could be waiting at the next station to remove the unruly passengers. Until there are regular patrols on the cars and platforms throughout the system, riders will continue to stay away from Metro. Doug Schwartz, Los Angeles
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You 'vaguely' remember me posting because I posted something about Chicago cleanliness last October. Good job at reaching though. You almost had it.

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I went to the new stations yesterday and I actually don't mind where the Bunker Hill station is, and I didn't get that impression when I left it to walk by that green space near the Otium restaurant. Did you leave the station at the street level or the bridge level? We took the elevator to the bridge level and thought it was a good way to get to The Broad/Grand Avenue. Maybe because it was Fathers Day too, but there were a lot of people eating at the restaurants and kids playing in that grassy area. But I can see how getting out of the station at the street level will make you think of roadways. And I didn't mind seeing the back of The Broad, in fact I had never paid attention to it before, and I thought it was an interesting view of it from a perspective that I had never seen before. My partner thought the same thing, but the only disappointment I found with the Bunker Hill station is the width of the platform; we both thought it would be much bigger; you'd think that with the cultural attractions in the area, not just the museums, but also summer events like Grand Performances at California Plaza, they'd have built this station with large crowds in mind.

And I like the new location for the Little Tokyo Station. When you go up to the street level and leave it, you actually feel like you're in Little Tokyo, unlike the old street-level station catty-corner to it, where you got off the train and felt like you were in some weird no-man's land, and then you had to be mindful of any trains that might be crossing, and then having to cross Alameda Avenue to get into Little Tokyo.

BTW Little Tokyo was really busy and lively with a lot of people yesterday.
I took the elevator up to the broad level where you are faced with the back of buildings, and the empty back lot of the Broad, and then roads and tennis courts behind you. Not the most attractive space. When you get to the green lawn, it is nice, and how I wish all of downtown felt. You had young families, tourists etc. But the other stations were not like that IMO. It also takes 15-20 minutes to go 1.2miles. That should be an 8min ride. Just felt I was and would ride it as an experience, rather than actually using it.

Again, I think the regional connector is definitely needed, and I understand these stations will feel more connected once more development is built. I think as a native angelino, I've just felt defeated by LA's policies and moods towards becoming a truly walkable, bike friendly, public transit metropolis, that it's hard to be excited. I hope I'm wrong!
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Are there any plans to develop the roof of the parking garage of the Broad? The lawn in front of Otium seems to be doing quite well, so perhaps something as simple as adding another lawn and a couple rows of olive trees would help activate the backside of the Broad as well.
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As high-rise offices lose their luster, can this part of downtown L.A. find a way forward?

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June 20, 2023

As the pandemic shut down office life in Los Angeles’ downtown financial district, Claude Cognian tried to keep his gastropub Public School 213 open. But the evacuation of white-collar workers made way for an influx of homeless people and drug users — and more than a few troublemakers striding in the front door.

“It was hard to keep hostesses at the door, because they got scared,” said Cognian, chief executive of the restaurant’s parent company, Grill Concepts Inc.

Three break-ins cost as much as $12,000 each time just to repair the windows, all while the bottom line was cratering in the absence of the office employees who used to gather for lunch and after-work drinks. With sales down 75% from pre-pandemic days, his company closed the downtown gastropub in August and is not planning to return.

“Our bet was that downtown was going to come back, and it hasn’t,” Cognian said.

For decades the Los Angeles financial district was the beating heart of downtown, the corporate muscle that gave the city of sprawl a soaring glass skyline. But the pandemic and the wave of remote work hollowed out its skyscrapers and helped shutter many restaurants and businesses that relied on crowds of workers. While the neighborhood shows signs of recovery, few expect it to return to being the bustling hive of suits and ties that it was.

To many insiders — the urban planners, real estate developers and business owners with interests in it — the area will recover only if its identity grows more textured than a zone of white-collar office space.

Desirable office addresses were already spreading beyond the financial district before the pandemic, as downtown experienced a renaissance in housing, art and entertainment on blocks previously shunned by investors and residents.

To the south, billions of dollars were spent improving the blocks around Crypto.com Arena with hotels, housing and entertainment venues. Obsolete century-old commercial and industrial buildings to the east were renovated into desirable housing and fashionably unconventional offices. Billions more were spent north on Bunker Hill where the Music Center including Walt Disney Concert Hall and office skyscrapers have been joined by museums, apartments and a high-rise hotel.

The housing boom drew residents to the financial district as well, and that has kept it from turning into a ghost town.

But for the area to truly come back to life, many say it will need to follow the path of Lower Manhattan. The financial capital of New York faced an exodus after 9/11, but city officials and investors staved it off by making it a place of more diverse uses. It is still an office district but is far more lively than it used to be since it also became a residential neighborhood with more shops, restaurants, parks and hotels than it had before the attacks. A performing arts center will open in September.

“Cities evolve. That’s what they do,” downtown L.A. business representative Nick Griffin said. “From natural disasters, wars and pandemics. They evolve with market changes, customer preferences and cultural shifts. Downtown has evolved pretty dramatically over the last 20 years and the next five or so are going to be very interesting.”

Many companies have returned to their offices, but on a limited basis as their employees work some days from home. “For Lease” signs clutter building fronts, tacked over restaurants and bars that once served lively hordes of office workers. Graffiti marks windows.

At Public School 213, the chairs are stacked neatly on tables as if it just closed for the night. Other former restaurants have been gutted by their landlords. Sidewalks are quiet, sometimes eerily so.

Downtown’s centers of gravity have shifted numerous times since its days as a remote Spanish pueblo.

The plaza by Olvera Street near the Los Angeles River was el centro until the late 19th century. When the railroads arrived in the American era, the business elite shifted the commercial district south from the plaza toward 1st Street in the Anglo section of the racially divided town, said Greg Fischer, an expert on the history of downtown who worked on planning matters for former City Councilwoman Jan Perry. Main, Spring, Broadway and Hill streets became the business hub.

In the early 20th century, elite social clubs the Jonathan Club, California Club and Los Angeles Athletic Club erected new buildings on the west side of downtown where property was relatively cheap. Soon the rooming houses, small apartment buildings and ramshackle Victorian homes there gave way. Richfield and other oil companies headquartered there, the seeds of today’s financial district.

In “the Jetsons era,” as Fischer described the 1960s, corporate leaders viewed the Spring Street-centered office district as increasingly obsolete and passé, and moved to newer buildings in the financial district. Downtown lost a lot of its lifeblood during that time, he said.

“In the years after World War II, downtown was a shopping, office and entertainment area,” Fischer said. “By the 1960s the office component had shifted west, most entertainment went to suburbs and housing just evaporated.”

Among the big businesses with offices in the west were Richfield, Union, Signal, National and Superior oil companies. Pacific Mutual Life Insurance Co. was headquartered there and Bank of America had a big presence.

The boundaries of the financial district are not officially outlined, but property brokerage CBRE defines it as the office center south of Bunker Hill and 4th Street, flanked on the west by the 110 Freeway and on the east by Hill Street and extending south to 8th Street.

By the 1980s, much of downtown was moribund; buildings that once thrummed with commerce were dilapidated and vacant or underused. There were pockets of vibrancy, notably the Jewelry District and a Latino-centric shopping zone that emerged among aging buildings along Broadway in the Historic Core. The Civic Center around City Hall remained one of the largest concentrations of public administrative buildings in the country, employing thousands of workers.

But the financial district was the shiny thriving part of the city, a high-rise office park for lawyers, bankers and accountants who piled into their cars for a mass exodus at the end of each workday.

To many, the neighborhood felt like a corporate fortress, invisibly walled off from the rest of downtown. Business leaders were painfully aware that downtown L.A. lacked the vibrancy of other big cities because it had so few residents, but was stuck in a chicken-and-egg dilemma: People didn’t want to live there because it lacked restaurants, grocery stores and other typical city-life amenities, but merchants didn’t want to set up shop because few lived there.

The stalemate began to break around 2000 with an ordinance that made it easier to redevelop obsolete office buildings into housing. The relocation of the Lakers, Clippers and Kings pro sports teams to the new downtown arena then known as Staples Center brought thousands of sports and music fans and led a wave of development south of the financial district.

Decades of efforts to add rail service and thousands of apartments and condominiums helped create a more vibrant downtown that was taking on the flavor of other big cities before the pandemic.

“All of a sudden people were walking dogs and pushing baby carriages,” architect Martha Welborne said. “New restaurants came in, even destination restaurants that weren’t just for the people who worked downtown or lived there.”

Fortunately for downtown’s future prospects, its apartment towers remain nearly fully occupied. More than 35,000 units were built after 1999, when so few people lived there that downtown didn’t even have a big-chain grocery store.

Three new hotels have recently opened and a 42-story apartment tower will start leasing later this year. Bottega Louie, one of the region’s top-grossing restaurants before it shut down for the pandemic, reopened in 2021. A few blocks away, legendary Beverly Hills steakhouse Mastro’s also opened a seafood restaurant last year near Crypto.com Arena.

And last week, Metro opened its new Regional Connector, a 1.9-mile underground downtown track adding three stations and linking different lines to make travel more seamless.

While some business owners have abandoned the financial district, others see opportunity to get in at an affordable price during what they hope is a temporary economic dip.

Restaurateur Prince Riley recently leased a spot on Grand Avenue that was last home to the Red Herring restaurant. He grabbed it because he liked the location and it was already built-out for upscale dining.

“You can see all the love and care that went into this space,” he said. “They were a casualty of COVID.”

Riley and his wife plan to open their restaurant, named Joyce, in July, featuring Southern-style seafood such as crudo, ceviche and a raw bar. They moved into the apartment building upstairs to be close to it.

The couple likes being near Bottega Louie, a popular Whole Foods grocery store and the recently opened Hotel Per La, which took over a lavishly refurbished 1920s building last occupied by another hotel that closed early in the pandemic.

“I can see business picking up,” Riley said. “This is an opportunity from a terrible tragedy like COVID. We wouldn’t have had this otherwise.”

A key factor keeping downtown teetering between recovery and a further downward slide appears to be discomfort with the streets and the sense that they are not as safe as they were before the pandemic.

The blocks close to Metro’s underground 7th Street/Metro Center station where, multiple light and heavy rail train lines meet, are among those that have changed most since the pandemic as the Metro system struggles to combat rampant drug use and serious crimes such as robbery, rape and aggravated assault on its lines.

The growing number of homeless people on the streets has been an issue in other cities too, said Cognian of Public School. His company also closed restaurants in Seattle and San Francisco because customers at their urban locations trickled away as unhoused people commandeered the sidewalks.

“Hopefully, we as a city, as a state, find a solution for the homeless,” he said. “If the homeless situation doesn’t get solved in some fashion that allows tourists, office workers and businesses to operate, it’s just going to bring down the area.”

Real estate broker Derrick Moore of CBRE, who specializes in matching restaurant and shop operators with landlords, said retail space leasing downtown has improved in recent months, especially compared to the dark days of the 2020 pandemic shutdown when downtown fell silent.

“It seems like ancient history,” Moore said, “but it was very devastating to one’s psyche.” And to downtown businesses.

In the wake of the COVID shutdown, downtown overall lost more than 100 food and beverage establishments with a combined footprint of more than 1 million square feet, Moore said.

“That’s restaurants, bars and lounges, juice bars, boutique coffee operators and even national brands,” Moore said. “A good portion of those remain vacant.”

Replacement tenants like Joyce restaurant are starting to come in, he said, with leasing and property showings picking up in the first quarter at a “resoundingly” busier pace than early 2022. Moore has taken potential tenants to the empty Public School space, where across the street the failed Standard hotel just reopened under new management as the Delphi.

Faced with a challenging market, retail landlords have cut their asking rents as much as 50% from pre-COVID prices, Moore said, and more than doubled the amount they are willing to spend on tenant upgrades such as installing restaurant kitchens and restrooms, and providing periods of free rent.

The financial district also faces a struggle of changing tastes, with many firms bypassing the gleaming skyscrapers that were the height of prestige in the late 20th century in favor of campus-style offices and a more laid-back vibe.

Even legal firms, long a stalwart in the financial district, are turning elsewhere in some cases. One firm formed in February recently opted out of putting its office there.

“When we started to look at space it became very clear to us that locating in the financial district was a very different proposition than it used to be,” said Matt Umhofer, a partner at Umhofer, Mitchell & King. “Downtown has changed dramatically, and we wanted to rethink what it means to be a law firm in Los Angeles and let go of preconceived notions of needing to be in the financial district in order to be relevant.”

The fledgling firm opted instead for an office in Row DTLA, a campus of shops, restaurants and offices created out of century-old warehouses near the Arts District, east of the financial center, even though office rents in the Arts District are often higher than they are in the glitzy skyscrapers.

“The short version is, being in the financial district isn’t as cool as maybe it was in the past,” Umhofer said.

The spotty attendance of office workers has changed the character of business centers across the country, said Mark Grinis, leader of consulting firm EY‘s real estate, hospitality and construction practice.

Analysis by EY found that offices are being used at only 25% to 50% of the level they were before the pandemic.

“In some locations, three-quarters of the people that normally would have gone in, didn’t,” Grinis said. “People are not on the subway, ordering sandwiches at lunch or having a drink after work.”

Vacant offices and storefronts can hinder recovery he said, because people shy away from empty spaces.

“Three blocks of vacant houses in a residential neighborhood ultimately becomes a negative,” he said. “An office center is not that different.”

The physical appearance of vacancy gets more alarming when graffiti, litter and grime follow and create a bad “multiplier effect,” Grinis said.

Stopping the spiral starts with making the streets safe and getting homeless residents into better housing, but there are also public policy decisions that could help landlords convert office buildings to housing if they are no longer competitive on the office leasing market.

And the market has been brutal. Owners of some of downtown’s office high-rises have faced defaults, foreclosures and rushed sales in the face of falling demand, real estate data provider CoStar said.

The owner of two of the financial district’s premier office towers, 777 Tower and Gas Company Tower, said in February that it defaulted on loans tied to the buildings. Other high-rise owners are in similar straits.

In the face of rising vacancy rates, “those defaults could signal pain to come for the 69-million-square-foot downtown L.A. office market,” CoStar said.

Owners of buildings facing foreclosure sometimes don’t have enough money to build out new tenants’ offices, as is customary, which hinders strapped landlords from recovering financially.

Commercial landlords are getting hit on multiple fronts, said Jessica Lall, managing director of the downtown office of CBRE.

“What we’re seeing is a perfect storm when it comes to the office distress in downtown L.A.,” she said.

Loans on large-scale properties are maturing at a time when interest rates are high, making refinancing a challenge, Lall said. There is widespread uncertainty among tenants about how much space they will need to rent in the future if employees work remotely at least some of the time.

Those issues are compounded by “the general perception around downtown being unsafe,” she said. “All urban centers are grappling with that issue right now.”

The downtown office vacancy rate — the share of total space that is unleased — climbed to 24% in the first quarter, up from 21.1% a year ago, according to CBRE. More empty space is coming, the brokerage said, pushing estimated availability to a daunting 30% as some companies shrink their offices or move away from downtown.

Law firm Skadden, for example, a large longtime tenant in downtown’s Bunker Hill district, has decided to move its offices to Century City.

The landlord of the U.S. Bank Tower, downtown’s tallest office tower at 72 stories, remains bullish on the market in spite of its troubles and recently spent $60 million to make the building more attractive to tenants by adding hotel-like amenities.

“People need offices,” said Marty Burger, chief executive of Silverstein Properties, which owns the tower. “Not every company in every industry needs an office, but the majority of them do.”

Among the reasons for offices are collaboration and education, he said. “How do you mentor the young folks who are coming up in your industry if the older people aren’t in the office for younger people to learn from? There is a whole ecosystem where you need people in an office now.”

Companies may end up using their offices fewer days of the week than they used to as remote work and shortened schedules grow in popularity, he acknowledged: “Fridays may never be Fridays again.”

Burger says his optimism about downtown L.A.’s potential for improvement has a foundation in New York, where Silverstein built One World Trade Center on the site of the Twin Towers.

“After 9/11, everyone said that no one would ever live there or work there again,” Burger said.

In 2001, the neighborhood had about 20,000 residents and saw little activity after office hours. Now rebuilt, the neighborhood has about 75,000 residents and a greater mix of office tenants including businesses in tech and advertising in what was mostly a banking center before, Burger said.

“It’s a vibrant 24/7 community,” he said.

Many see this as the best future for L.A.’s financial district

The city’s tight housing market combined with the downturn in office rentals opens the possibility to convert some office buildings into housing or hotels.

More residents and visitors would make the neighborhood more dynamic and better able to support restaurants, shops and nightlife, said Griffin, executive director of the privately funded Downtown Center Business Improvement District, a nonprofit coalition of more than 2,000 property owners.

“If we trade some office for residential, that’s a good thing.”

The pandemic’s blow to the office market “is an opportunity that none of us ever imagined happening,” Welborne said, “transforming office buildings into residential buildings and reimagining our entire downtown.”
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I like to separate the photos from the article to make the text easier to read. Here are the pics from the article linked above:


A view of the downtown Los Angeles skyline.(Brian van der Brug / Los Angeles Times)


The steel and glass skyscrapers of the financial district on Bunker Hill in Los Angeles.(Luis Sinco / Los Angeles Times)


People walk midday at the Figat7th outdoor mall in downtown L.A.’s financial district.(Dania Maxwell/Los Angeles Times)


Wilshire Grand Center, a hotel and office skyscraper that is one of the tallest buildings in the West, towers over the financial district.(Dania Maxwell/Los Angeles Times)


Pedestrians walk past Bottega Louie in downtown Los Angeles.(Los Angeles Times)


A man rests near office buildings and an outdoor mall in downtown’s financial district.(Dania Maxwell/Los Angeles Times)


A long-vacant 1960s office tower in the financial district that was designed by noted midcentury architect William Pereira.(Dania Maxwell/Los Angeles Times)


A view of the downtown Los Angeles skyline from the Cara Cara Rooftop Bar.(Brian van der Brug/Los Angeles Times)
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Are there any plans to develop the roof of the parking garage of the Broad? The lawn in front of Otium seems to be doing quite well, so perhaps something as simple as adding another lawn and a couple rows of olive trees would help activate the backside of the Broad as well.
I was thinking an ice rink could be cool during the colder months.
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You 'vaguely' remember me posting because I posted something about Chicago cleanliness last October. Good job at reaching though. You almost had it.

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lol...hey, your comment...which dates back to Oct last yr.?...although perhaps accurate, did admittedly bother me a bit. Maybe I was even a bit resentful by what that implied about dtla. But if what you wrote is correct & the truth, then that's on me, not you.

Similarly, someone recently posted that dt, as they were visiting the new connector stations, seemed off. Not happy to read that, but since that's their perception, & if I resent their comment, that's on me, not them.

In my case, when I was in dt on sunday, it irritated me that this feature was still mainly switched off, per this recent vid of it. Originally, the city or country claimed the fountain was down due to mechanical problems. Then they didn't say anything, although they have been slammed in the past for running fountains during a drought. So they get criticized either way.


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It has been over a yr or two since it looked like this...

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As for the nearby landmark DWP headqrts bldg on Hope St, the dept for yrs...drought or no drought...has increasingly limited operating their fountains, a major feature of a bldg designed by Albert Martin going back to the early 1960s. When too many ppl in a city have a 'who gives a damn?' or 'who gives AF' attitude, that works against any town.

LA already has plenty of ppl who don't tend to say 'I love it' the way that people in certain other cities like saying (or want to say) about their cities. So I sure don't want them to turn around & also say, 'who give AF'.
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The bridge looks beautiful at night with the turqouise, blues, greens, reds and oranges coming through the glass with the artwork. It reminds me of Toyo Ito’s Mediatheque. It would have been outstanding if they had done that treatment to the blue windows of the station as well.
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I notice the concrete slab west of the broad museum's west facing wall is listed as 'development site'....that could be the reason it has remained a vacant pad since the museum opened in 2015. Maybe the owner of the parking structure, which I think is controlled by the city, but I'm not sure, or even the mta has a legal requirement that it be given to a devlpr for a bldg of some type? If so, that contract should be fought over & changed, & the pad given to the museum as an outdoor plaza.

There should be at least something on it other than chain link fences lying on their side. All I know, is when I walked by it on sunday, that to me was bad show. However, the nearby restaurant & lawn with olive trees was nice...lively with ppl out & about. On Sunday, dtla itself didn't feel off to me, although I can see why ppl might feel that way about a location since something about the area around Samo & brentwood regrettably felt off to me.


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The changing face of downtown Los Angeles real estate isn't focused on offices, desks and conference rooms. The latest luxury building has apartments and features a bocce court, indoor driving range, smartphone-controlled elevators and a Botox room. The tower in the financial district sandwiched between two office skyscrapers, including one in receivership, is the Beaudry at 960 W. 7th St. At more than 600 feet high, it's the tallest multifamily building to rise this year in America's second-biggest city and its opening this spring marks the latest part of a push to transform the downtown from office mecca to luxury residential neighborhood.

The Beaudry joins more than 20,000 apartment units that have kicked off construction downtown since 2013, and the area now hosts more multifamily construction than anywhere else in greater L.A., according to CoStar data. After the Beaudry's construction, there are now 446 existing apartment properties in downtown Los Angeles, compared with 463 office properties.

What's coming next shows an even bigger bet on multifamily compared to office: there are 70 apartment properties under construction or proposed in downtown L.A. compared to 15 office properties, the data shows.

The bet on residential appears to have had some success for Beaudry as evidenced by the moving trucks parked around the building and the new residents milling about. "We’ve seen strong interest since launching with continued steady leasing," Ricardo Green, adviser of public relations for Brookfield, said in an email. Green didn't say how many leases have been signed so far at Beaudry.

Hal Bastian, a longtime real estate executive who has advocated for more apartment construction downtown, said office properties will stick around downtown but there will be less of it. Downtown office space has been through tough periods before and come back. However, Bastian said apartments will continue to be in vogue for years to come in downtown L.A. "Notwithstanding our challenges, we continue to hit high rental numbers," Bastian said.

Across the street, 438-unit multifamily property Figueroa Eight is wrapping up construction. The building's owner plans to start preleasing units this summer.
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Now that the regional connector is complete, Tribune Real Estate Company should have control over the site at 222 W 2nd street to build their 56 story residential tower. Due to there being no underground parking because of the subway station, this one could rise quickly.
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Was that the hold up?
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Was that the hold up?
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