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Mall owner seeks help of Chapter 11

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LOS ANGELES — The nation's second-largest shopping mall owner, General Growth Properties, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection Thursday in a tough bargaining move to restructure its $27 billion in debt.

General Growth, which owns more than 200 malls including Faneuil Hall in Boston and the South Street Seaport in Manhattan, said shoppers at its malls will not be affected by its bankruptcy filing.

In Utah, General Growth owns Cache Valley Mall in Logan, the Cottonwood Mall in Holladay, Newgate Mall in Ogden, the Provo Towne Centre, Red Cliffs Mall in St. George and Fashion Place mall in Murray...


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Murray adds new fire station

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Salt Lake City - The new Murray Fire Station 83 at 484 W. 5900 S. Photo by Francisco Kjolseth/The Salt Lake Tribune 4/14/2009 (Francisco Kjolseth)

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Mall owner seeks help of Chapter 11

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...hapter-11.html

LOS ANGELES — The nation's second-largest shopping mall owner, General Growth Properties, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection Thursday in a tough bargaining move to restructure its $27 billion in debt.

General Growth, which owns more than 200 malls including Faneuil Hall in Boston and the South Street Seaport in Manhattan, said shoppers at its malls will not be affected by its bankruptcy filing.

In Utah, General Growth owns Cache Valley Mall in Logan, the Cottonwood Mall in Holladay, Newgate Mall in Ogden, the Provo Towne Centre, Red Cliffs Mall in St. George and Fashion Place mall in Murray...


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Call me a pessimist, but given this news, I'd venture that the Cottonwood Mall's redevelopment has zero chance of materializing as originally planned.
I can't see a bankrupt company being able to muster the resources to pull it off. When it come time to liquidate assets, an empty piece of land with expansion plans will probably be easier to part with than an existing mall somewhere else.
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Economic slump stalls several malls

Projects in Holladay, Sugar House and Provo run into delays, but City Creek and others are moving forward.


By Rosemary Winters
The Salt Lake Tribune


Holladay » The 57-acre swath of dirt in the heart of Holladay once was a beacon of prosperity: Cottonwood Mall, one of the West's first shopping malls, debuted in 1962.

Today, it sports only a Macy's department store, a shipless anchor to a vanished fleet of stores, and a shuttered T.G.I. Friday's.

But the barren property is not alone. The recession has deferred many development dreams, carving a crater into east Salt Lake City's Sugar House neighborhood, stalling hopes for a bigger-than-Broadway-style theater along with three high-rises in Sandy, and delaying, indefinitely, The Boyer' Co.'s Southgate Center in Provo.

Still, other mall makeovers aren't waiting on an economic rebound.

Renovations are under way at Salt Lake City's Trolley Square, West Valley City's Valley Fair Mall and Murray's Fashion Place Mall. And City Creek Center, the massive overhaul of downtown Salt Lake City's former Crossroads and ZCMI Center malls, is on schedule. The $1.5 billion-plus housing, shopping and office project is set to open in early 2012.

Despite filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection last week, Chicago-based General Growth Properties still plans to transform the old Cottonwood Mall site into the $550 million "Cottonwood," a European-inspired blend of homes, offices and shops.

But the project has been pushed back from a fall 2011 opening to, perhaps, 2012 or 2013, General Growth Vice President of Development Kris Longson said Wednesday.

"National tenants are not signing leases right now on new projects," Longson told a committee that oversees a $96 million property-tax subsidy promised to the Cottonwood project when it is built. "When things do change, we're going to be ready to go."

Another gaping hole in Holladay could be filled next year. Plans for the long-awaited Village Center -- delayed a few years by property and road disputes -- are starting to take shape.

Crews are realigning a troublesome intersection between Holladay Boulevard, 2300 East and Murray-Holladay Road. Cowboy Partners President Dan Lofgren plans to start building the "quaint," three-story Village Center in late August with an opening set for fall 2010.

The project's smallish scale -- 20,000 square feet of retail, or about four stores -- and emphasis on Utah merchants have allowed the center to move forward, unconstrained by the health of national retailers.

"The local tenant base we're looking to is viable and anxious to move in," Lofgren said at Wednesday's meeting. "It's not as if we were relying on growth in the economy to stimulate new stores. For the most part, [a potential tenant] is someone who's relocating."

The Village Center, which includes a grassy plaza leading to Holladay City Hall, also is set to get a property-tax subsidy to offset infrastructure costs.

On Wednesday, Longson acknowledged he doesn't know whether General Growth's bankruptcy proceedings could precipitate a sale of the 57-acre Cottonwood Mall property.

He said such a move would be "very unfortunate." The company already has invested $75 million in the site, including work to demolish the mall, realign Big Cottonwood Creek and lift the property out of the flood plain.

Someday, Cottonwood -- the development -- could rise as well, but years later than previously envisioned.

Tribune reporters Lesley Mitchell, Michael Limon, María Villaseñor and Donald W. Meyers contributed to this report.

Project: Some stall, some advance
City Creek Center

The LDS Church's $1.5 billion-plus live, work and recreate makeover of the former Crossroads and ZCMI mall blocks is proceeding as planned with completion scheduled for early 2012. The 20-acre downtown Salt Lake City project will be anchored by Nordstrom and Macy's, while blueprints still call for more than 100 additional stores comprising 500,000 square feet. City Creek also will include a Harmons grocery store and 750 living units between four, and perhaps five, residential towers.

Cottonwood Mall

Plans to transform the now-demolished 1960s mall in Holladay into a European-inspired housing and shopping village have hit a snag with the Chapter 11 bankruptcy of mall owner General Growth Properties. But Vice President of Development Kris Longson said the company is "ready to go" once the economy recovers and national retailers resume expansion plans. A fall 2011 opening has been bumped to 2012 or 2013.

Fashion Place Mall

The Murray property, also owned by General Growth, long has been one of Utah's most successful malls, which is one reason why Nordstrom recently invested in a new 138,000-square-foot store to replace a smaller one on the site. The new Nordstrom is part of an overhaul of the shopping center that began last year.

Holladay Village Center

Holladay has launched an $11.5 million makeover, largely funded by federal grants, of the intersection at Holladay Boulevard, 2300 East and Murray-Holladay Road. Once the road and utility work is done this fall, Cowboy Partners plans to start construction on the Village Center, a string of storefronts topped by housing and offices that will blanket the former Video Verns site. The firm expects to wrap work in fall 2010.

Layton Hills Mall

The Layton mall, which is anchored by J.C. Penney, Macy's and Sports Authority, lost a Mervyn's last year when the retail chain liquidated and closed all its stores. The mall, however, is holding its own despite the bad economy and loss of one of its anchors.

The Proscenium

Plans to place a 2,700-seat Broadway-style theater and three 30- to 40-story high-rises in Sandy have stalled. Scott McQuarrie, developer of The Proscenium, said the 2.3 million-square-foot office, housing, hotel and entertainment project is on hold while his firm waits for the credit markets to loosen up. A fall 2011 scheduled debut for the first phase has been pushed back indefinitely.

Provo Towne Center

The mall off I-15 Exit 263 (University Avenue) is one of the valley's newer centers and was not part of bankruptcy filing by parent General Growth Properties. It has a low vacancy rate and is drawing interest from smaller retailers for the spaces it does have. Within the next few years, transit stops for the FrontRunner commuter rail and rapid-bus lines will open nearby.

Southgate Center

The Boyer Co.'s Southgate Center is on "market hold" for the time being, said Leland Gamette, Provo's economic-development director. The retail and office project in the city's East Bay section had been expected to open this July.

Station Park

The $250 million project, slated for 100 acres near the FrontRunner station in Farmington, has been pushed back a year. Featuring offices, movie theaters, restaurants and shops, Station Park is now expected to open in 2011.

Sugar House Granite Block

The most prominent portion of east Salt Lake City's so-called Granite Block development cratered along with the economy and is indefinitely suspended until owner Craig Mecham can secure financing. But beyond the hub of 2100 South and Highland Drive, California-based Red Mountain Retail Group is on schedule, beginning this summer, to revive the old furniture buildings into a six-story hotel and health club, along with 320 condominiums above national chain stores, restaurants and boutiques.

Trolley Square

The Salt Lake City mall is undergoing a major renovation, which includes the addition of a 53,000-square-foot Whole Foods store, set to open summer 2010. Portland, Ore.-based ScanlanKemperBard Cos., which bought Trolley Square more than two years ago, has completed interior renovation work on the main mall building and replaced its aging parking structure.

University Mall

The Orem mall is focusing on its open-air Village, just east of the center, which is the new home to Five Guys Burgers and Iggy's restaurants. A Cinemark theater opened last November. The mall also is looking to fill the space previously occupied by Mervyn's, which might involve renovation or an expansion.

Valley Fair Mall

The West Valley City shopping center is undergoing a makeover, which included the opening of a Costco warehouse store about a year and a half ago. A new line of storefronts in front of the mall will feature Olive Garden, Wingers Grill & Bar, T.G. I. Fridays, In-N-Out Burger and Smashburger restaurants.


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Development marches on at Daybreak



Residents at Daybreak take advantage of the extensive trail and park system. (Paul Fraughton/ The Salt Lake Tribune)

Expansion» Utah's largest master-planned community keeps on growing.

By Lesley Mitchell
The Salt Lake Tribune


You might expect it to be a lot more quiet at the Daybreak community in South Jordan these days amid an economic downturn that has hit Utah's home building industry hard.

But unlike some areas of the Wasatch Front, where development has all but stopped, developer Kennecott Land is still embarking on a slew of development projects in Utah's largest housing community.

A new housing area for seniors built by Ivory Homes will debut in June. A 68,000 square foot retail development with Daybreak's first retail shops also will be completed around the same time. And work will begin in June on the community's first apartment complex, a 315-unit project scheduled to open fall 2010.

Also in the works: A 175,000 square foot University of Utah Health Center set to open in late 2010.


An entry level residence at the North Shore development at Daybreak. (Paul Fraughton/ The Salt Lake Tribune)foot University of Utah Health Center set to open in late 2010.

And although home building is down sharply from its peak in 2006, there are some encouraging signs here. In the first quarter, 90 single-family homes and condos sold in Daybreak, up 11 percent from first quarter 2008. Right now, any year-over-year increase in housing units is a cause for celebration.

To put that into perspective, "We're selling a home a day," said Ty McCutcheon, Kennecott Land's vice president of community development.

Home prices in the community range from the $130,000s to more than $800,000.

The 4,126-acre Daybreak, framed by the Oquirrh Mountains, debuted in 2004. It was like nothing the Wasatch Front had ever seen, with its nearly two dozen model homes designed by no less than seven builders. Today there are 10 builders.

Daybreak is still Utah's largest residential community, with 1,950 occupied condominiums, townhomes and single-family homes along. On the commercial side, it now has about 415,000 square feet of office and industrial space. Another 547,000 square feet of commercial space is in development in the medical center, retail development and additional industrial space.

Think that's pretty big? At buildout, Daybreak is expected to have as much as 20,000 single-family and multi-family units and 14 million square million square feet of office, retail and other commercial space.


The interior of a new home (Paul Fraughton/ The Salt Lake Tribune)pretty big? At buildout, Daybreak is expected to have as much as 20,000 single-family and multi-family units and 14 million square million square feet of office, retail and other commercial space.

James Wood, director of the University of Utah Bureau of Business and Economic Research, Daybreak is unique from other housing projects in Utah.

Its appeal is that is "it's a true mixed use project, where you have a range of residential options as well as commercial choices," he said.

Kennecott Land was established in 2001, the development company grew out of Kennecott Utah Copper Corp., a wholly owned subsidiary of international mining conglomerate Rio Tinto.

Daybreak occupies part of about 93,000 acres acquired years ago by Kennecott Utah Copper.


A cyclist approaches a bridge spanning a narrow section of the lake at Daybreak. (Paul Fraughton/ The Salt Lake Tribune)years ago by Kennecott Utah Copper.

Kennecott Land is not actually building the homes in Daybreak. It's serving as a master developer, selling lots to builders who handle actual construction of homes, including Ivory Homes and Garbett Homes.

Ivory's housing development for people age 55 and older will be a mix of 500 condos, townhomes and single-family detached homes.

On the commercial side, Kennecott tends to be more involved. It develops its own office buildings, which it leases.

It is partnering with apartment developer Western National Realty to build and manage its 315-unit apartment complex.

And Kennecott also is developing the 68,000 square feet of retail space currently under construction will be spread out over five buildings scheduled for completion in June. Through the summer and fall, tenants including a coffee shop, ice cream store, Mexican restaurant, dry cleaner, hair salon and youth multisport facility will move in. Daybreak will not yet release any names of tenants except for Zions Bank.

What about that grocery store that Kennecott has been talking about for years? Still no deal yet, says said Scott Kaufman, director of commercial development at Kennecott Land.

"We're patiently waiting for the right operator and the right concept," he said.

In other words, the division has yet to ink a deal with an operator they want and that also has the means to build a new store right now.

The good news for Daybreak is that it probably has seen the worst of the housing downturn, said Eric Allen, director of the Utah/Idaho region of Metrostudy, a housing tracking firm.


The new TRAX line being built at Daybreak. (Paul Fraughton/ The Salt Lake Tribune)The good news for Daybreak is that it probably has seen the worst of the housing downturn, said Eric Allen, director of the Utah/Idaho region of Metrostudy, a housing tracking firm.

He said Daybreak has undoubtedly been affected by the downturn, but not as much as some other areas that have focused primarily on higher price points.

Daybreak's uptick in first-quarter sales are just one sign that the community -- and the Wasatch Front's home building industry as a whole -- is poised for a turnaround.

"I think we're very near the bottom, if we're not already there," he said. "The market should start to stabilize this year."


Largest Housing Subdivisions in Salt Lake Area
Community/2008 housing starts


Single family, condos and townhomes

1. Daybreak South Jordan 342

2. Foxboro North Salt Lake 249

3. Highbury West Valley 211

4. Stansbury Park, Tooele County 102

5. Harvest Hills, Saratoga Springs 91

Source: MetroStudy




Daybreak Facts
Located between 10200 South and 11800 South from 4000 West to state Route 111 (about 7200 West)

Contains 1,950 occupied homes

Opened in 2004

Will have 1,056 acres of open space

Price range of home, condos and townhomes for sale in Daybreak: $130,000 to more than $800,000


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Call me a pessimist, but given this news, I'd venture that the Cottonwood Mall's redevelopment has zero chance of materializing as originally planned.
I can't see a bankrupt company being able to muster the resources to pull it off. When it come time to liquidate assets, an empty piece of land with expansion plans will probably be easier to part with than an existing mall somewhere else.
Pessimist. I am very hopefully and positive about this development. I think that it has solid fundamentals which will provide General Growth with ample reason to stay the course and develop as planned. Have faith.
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Call me a pessimist, but given this news, I'd venture that the Cottonwood Mall's redevelopment has zero chance of materializing as originally planned.
I can't see a bankrupt company being able to muster the resources to pull it off. When it come time to liquidate assets, an empty piece of land with expansion plans will probably be easier to part with than an existing mall somewhere else.
I agree. I thought the plans were incredibly ambitious from the start. The site is not convenient to get to from anywhere. I think Cottonwood will end up being developed with a bit of retail on the corner of Highland and Murry-Holladay Rd and some office along Highland with the rest being single family residential. I think the housing market will bounce back before retail.
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Utah is not the 2nd driest state in the nation. You've still got Arizona, New Mexico and Nevada.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the "XERISCAPE EVERYTHING GET RID OF GRASS!" mentality doesn't make much sense in the Salt Lake area because we are getting ALL of our water from LOCAL SOURCES that are located almost exclusively in our state and end up draining into the Great Salt Lake. We get our water from wells under the valleys and multiple Wasatch canyon streams, not from the Colorado river basin. We live in an OASIS. It's not like the water we use in the SLC metro is being taken from other states that are water deprived. Sure, we're not Kentucky, but we're certainly not Arizona. I don't have any problems with keeping the SLC metro green. Yes, we ought to be smarter about how we use water now to better sustain our population growth, but we don't need to xeriscape everything to death. Imagine how filthy our air would be if we didn't have as much greenery as we do.

I think xeriscaping ought to be used universally in cities like St. George, who get much of their water from the CRB rather than local wells. Also, SLC is NOT a desert city like Albuquerque, Las Vegas or Phoenix where xeriscaping is crucial for sustainability.

I'm really sleepy and I realize that my argument is kinda shabby but I think i got my general point across
Sorry Tangled, but I wasn't making that up. Utah really is the 2nd driest state, I wasn't just estimating. I learned that in my geology class. In the period from 1971 to 2000, Utah was the 2nd driest state in the United States.

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September 19, 2008

The past few wet winters have been good to arid Utah, but history has proven that drought conditions will be here again, and the Utah Foundation wants to warn people about wasting water.

A foundation report released Thursday said that over a 29-year period, Utah was the second driest state in the nation. Nevada was the driest from 1971 to 2000, receiving less precipitation than any other state.

In Utah, two thirds of all nonpotable and potable water sources used by residents went toward outdoor use, such as watering lawns. The report urged elected officials to continue to work on water conservation strategies that will help maintain water supply and reduce water usage levels during both drought and sufficient water periods.....


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You guys are COMPLETELY missing my point - though it's not the first time on here I DIDN'T say "xeroscape everything" nor did I say to use "asphault, concrete, and pebbles". I have specifically said twice now - this will be the third - to cut out USELESS grass (not all grass). As this report said, Utah uses 2/3 of its water consumption just for watering plants. If we could cut that down even to half (I would like to see 1/3) it would work wonders! If we could xeroscape business lawns and cut out the grass or xeroscape between the sidewalk and road, we could save so much water. I'm not advocating against people having good-old-fashioned Kentuckey Blue on their lawns, just to use it smarter where it will actually be used and enjoyed. I don't think anyone could rationaly defend having Kentuckey Blue between the road and sidewalk. I doubt you have ever walked on that grass except for when you get your mail. What's the use having it? GET RID OF IT!!

If Utah's population doubles by 2040 like several reports have forcasted, then we will be using twice as much water then. We may be able to get by now, but we most certainly will NOT be able to at that point. It would be far easier to forge a path to greater water efficientcy now than in 30 years when we are in trouble. It is nice, as you pointed out, that we use mostly our own water, but that still doesn't matter. We will have too large a population to be sustained in the future at the rate we are using this precious resorce right now. Imagine how much money we could make by using half the water we do now and selling the rest to California, Arizona, Nevada, etc. Those states would pay through the nose for the blue stuff!! Then, when our population needs it in the coming decades, we will have it.

Utahns need to rethink their love affair with Kentuckey Blue Grass. It will become a costly one not too long from now!
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Thanks Delts for the wonderful article on Daybreak. I really hope (and am confident) that this development will not only succeed, but far exceed expectations. It's looking wonderful already, and it's only about 1/3 of the way done! I love the little retail center they are building off 114th - particularly the little 4 or 5-story blue building perched attop the villege overlooking the lake. I think it will be offices? Then there's the Rio Tinto Building. That will be a nice bustling little center by next year when TRAX comes in. There are alrealdy lots of pedestrians biking, jogging, roller blading, strolling, etc. I can only imagine how it will look when TRAX riders come in and the office workers come out for lunch. You can even eat your lunch on a bench by the lake if you want to!
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I very much agree with you Urban logic, Daybreak is an exciting alternative in the way of metro communities. I feel very strongly that as the many ammenties planned are added each year, and the ample treescape etc. matures, Daybreak will become one of the more attractive communties in the urban metro.

Regarding the running dialogue on Kentucky Blue Grass. There are definitely allot better alternatives. Like TAGELD though, I don't want to see our front yards become an oasis of gravel, like so many suburburban areas of Pheonix. I think that gravel look is numbing to the soul. I know that's not at all what anyone is advocating here, and I strongly agree that xeroscapeing can be accomplished in a way that is very attractive.

I've been wanting to make a run out to Eagle Mountain, to check out the new generation of artificial turf they've been putting in. I hear it looks and feels like the real thing. It's also allot more visually attractive than the brown patches and dandelion infested areas that develop in lawns so easily, constantly requiring costly upkeep with too much water & chemicals.

I'm liking the colurful pumus rock designs, interpersed with drought resistent vegetation allot. I notice that Sandy is finally doing this at it's 106th interchange. I would like to see Sugarhouse do the same, and replace allot of that grass at the 13th street interchange. My cousins in Salt Lake just replaced their curbside lawn in the front a couple of seasons ago with an artful pumus rock and drought resistant plant display, and it looks fantastic. I'm going to eliminate at least one watering station on my back lawn this year. I have a huge back yard, that is definately not necessary.
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Pessimist. I am very hopefully and positive about this development. I think that it has solid fundamentals which will provide General Growth with ample reason to stay the course and develop as planned. Have faith.

I definately agree with you WeST. I understand what some of you are saying, but I wouldn't be too quick to eliminate this site as it is planned. I would give it at least a 50-50 chance. I lived in the Cove area for several years, and never found it difficult or inconvenient to access that area. There's a large upscale population in that immediate region, who would agree strongly with me. I often will still access that zip code by taking the 20th and driving along Highland. It's easy and also an attractive drive. If I were given the option of one of the most beautifull lifestyle destinations in the nation as planned, I would definately frequent it for shopping and dining. The project is viable and a part of General Growth Properties potentially most attractive national portfolio holdings. If they are forced to sell it, don't think that there isn't a strong possibility for another developer to swoop in and finish the project as proposed. After all, 10's of millions have already been committed and put in place in the way of major grounds prep and community support.

Look at what happened recently with Jeremy Ranch. It's almost laughable what creative developers are allowed to get away with these days. I'd say we need to wait at least another season before we have a clearer picture of what that site will evolve into. I'm going to predict that if the 50-50 chance of General doesn't materialize, that there will be a number of very greedy developers waiting in the wings,(Actually, that's a pretty easy prediction, as there are already a number of entities drooling over that site). Holladay being Holladay, will force any subsequent developers to strict standards, just as they have been forcing Cowboy Partners to very strict quality standards in regard to the village center. All said, IMO Hollday will get it's destination lifestyle center just as planned, whether General builds it or a subsequent developer. It might take a couple more years than planned to get it going, but chances are very good that it will materialize.

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Holladay, Cottonwood Heights battle over office building

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...ts-battle.html

A conflict between two east-side cities could be written off as sibling rivalry, but local leaders involved say it really comes down to traffic, fire safety and pristine mountain views.

Elected officials in Holladay are opposing a proposed Cottonwood Heights ordinance change that would allow 12-story buildings at the mouth of Big Cottonwood Canyon...


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Air Force wants resort at Quinn's Junction




Local officials desperate to stop military from building at Quinn's Junction

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Department of Defense officials reaffirmed their support this week for building a potentially 600-room hotel at the sagebrush-lined east entrance into Park City.
The plan, which could plop a large mixed-used development with a hotel and movie studio at Quinn's Junction, would cause traffic congestion on State Road 248 and harm views in an area that was designed as open space, hotel critics say...


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Holladay, Cottonwood Heights battle over office building


The tall building is a rendering added to the photo, looking southwest, to show how the Old Mill development could look with the building. Holladay is opposing a Cottonwood Heights ordinance change that would allow the 12-story building. Vcbo Architecture



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Park City - Treasure Mountain rights affirmed


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The Treasure special counsel on Wednesday night indicated the Sweeney family's longstanding rights to the development remain intact, a crucial opinion that allows the Sweeneys to press forward with the disputed project...

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That 12-story building fits in just fine. I don't see what the big deal is.
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The look and massing of the building fits in fine in my opinion. I think the biggest issue is the traffic that a 12 story office building will generate. That area already seems to have severe traffic problems in and out, and this building will only add to those already existing issues.
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I work in the area and traffic can be terrible throughout the day already.

I know that they are going to be working on the 3000 east 6200 sout intersection but I don't think it will be enough.

The one thing that the building would create is a further need for a trax or transit line to the area. It can stop near the 6200 s 3000e intersection before heading to the canyon. Shuttle buses could take people up the canyon from there.
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Holladay, Cottonwood Heights battle over office building


The tall building is a rendering added to the photo, looking southwest, to show how the Old Mill development could look with the building. Holladay is opposing a Cottonwood Heights ordinance change that would allow the 12-story building. Vcbo Architecture



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I would like to see the view looking east. The photos provided clearly show their is no visual impact looking west or southwest. I will hold off judgement until other vantage points are provided. My suspicion is that the view to the east will not change much, you will just see a different building than what you see now. Or lots of tall trees.
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That 12-story building fits in just fine. I don't see what the big deal is.
Those views don't show the view that most people will see of it, which is from the freeway. From the freeway, that behemoth will most certainly block the view of the mountains. When the first office buildings were developed there 10 years ago, they blocked the view of the mountains as you drive east on I-215 towards the mountain. I thought that was terrible planning.

Another thing, is there is already 1 million square feet of office building that has been built there since 10 years ago. Just think about how downtown SLC would look like if that 1 million square feet of office space was built there? I'm not saying that everything should be built downtown, but there has been way more office space built out in the burbs, which continually sucks vitality from downtown. I mean, it's been 10 years, since downtown SLC has had an office highrise, and 222 main is struggling to fill it's square footage. Have you guys seen the office park down by the Jordan River on about 106th south? There are some big 7-8 story new office buildings out there that have been built within the last 5 years. The suburbs are building out at least 5 times as much office space than downtown. I hope something happens to curb the cowboy/suburban mentality of this metropolis!
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