Winnipeg Construction X

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by Malcsta

I was talking with a friend today about the viability of Winnipeg getting a 50 storey tower and he mentioned that the ground wouldnt support it. He mentioned that Winnipeg was basically situated on top of a giant swamp. Anyone able to corroborate this ?

Originally Posted by BAKGUY

Total B. S.
You build down as far as needed to reach bedrock, caissons, piles whatever.

Downtown apparently has a cobble layer that can make things more difficult depending upon location. But ya, you can build a skyscraper to space if you wanted to. Just need to get down through to competent bedrock.

[drew]

Originally Posted by Malcsta

I was talking with a friend today about the viability of Winnipeg getting a 50 storey tower and he mentioned that the ground wouldnt support it. He mentioned that Winnipeg was basically situated on top of a giant swamp. Anyone able to corroborate this ?

Anywhere from ~25-50 feet below existing grade is glacial till (super compressed gravel) and/or bedrock. Even if glacial till is there, if you keep digging you will hit rock at some point.

The difficulty in building foundations here is the depths involved, and dealing with the ground water when you are down there. But there aren't height limitations in Winnipeg - just $$ limitations.

All of the buildings you see that use the driven pre-cast concrete piles are designed to be supported directly on the glacial till level. That type of foundation can get you into mid-rise heights at most, before you need to upgrade to driven steel piles, and then finally cast-in-place caissons onto or into the bedrock.

[Wpg_Guy]

It’s been a few years but a major update has been done to page 1 with the more recent significant projects around town: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8607364&postcount=1

[Mr Tall Forehead]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

It’s been a few years but a major update has been done to page 1 with the more recent significant projects around town: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8607364&postcount=1

Great job!

[CoryB]

I think the challenge with 50+ floors is a lot of costs. The challenges with doing services though a building get more expensive with height. With so much undeveloped or lower developed land available it is likely cheaper to build 2x 25 floors than 1x 50 floors even without the added foundation costs.

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by CoryB

I think the challenge with 50+ floors is a lot of costs. The challenges with doing services though a building get more expensive with height. With so much undeveloped or lower developed land available it is likely cheaper to build 2x 25 floors than 1x 50 floors even without the added foundation costs.

Which is preferable imo. People treat super talls as prestige points for cities which is fair enough but it often isn't much of an indicator of good urbanism. Abu Dhabi is full of supertalls but has awful urban planning.

[FactaNV]

Has there been any word on what's happening with the Winnipeg Hotel? Was the damage too much to justify?

[ColdRain&Snow]

The proposed building at 436 Balmoral St was rejected by the planning department. In the Administrative Report, they recommend a 6-8 story building. There are more drawings in the link below:

https://legacy.winnipeg.ca/PPD/Documents/CityPlanning/Reports/25-117254-VC.pdf

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

The proposed building at 436 Balmoral St was rejected by the planning department. In the Administrative Report, they recommend a 6-8 story building. There are more drawings in the link below:

https://legacy.winnipeg.ca/PPD/Documents/CityPlanning/Reports/25-117254-VC.pdf

Too bad. It probably would be a bit much for that corner though. Lots of empty space a block and a bit away downtown, might be better off there? For example, the lot behind and beside 300 Carlton maybe?

[ColdRain&Snow]

Does anyone know if the proposed building at 346 Pacific Ave has been approved yet? All I can find is this variance that approves a "building connection" between 101 Paulin St and a "proposed new four storey building at 346 Pacific Avenue".

https://legacy.winnipeg.ca/ppd/PublicNotices/detail/VARIANCE-24-277735%2FB

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by FactaNV

Too bad. It probably would be a bit much for that corner though. Lots of empty space a block and a bit away downtown, might be better off there? For example, the lot behind and beside 300 Carlton maybe?

I don't get why this is bad. Sure, fine, it dwarfs its neighbours. But isn't this city's whole architectural history basically "randomly high towers surrounded by nothing of equivalent height" (at the time they were built: union bank building, richardson building)

like what is the actual benefit of "gentle density" and gradual scaling that is so valuable it is worth taking away 10 floors of housing downtown? like, i get that it looks jarring when you have a tall tower next to a short building. but that little architectural/urban sin is so grave we'll pay for it by reducing the housing created by more than half?

[WinCitySparky]

Exactly it’s literally crying for development in that ass shit part of the city and of course it’s shot down by uninspired wieners on committee. City logic makes me scream inside sometimes.

[FactaNV]

You guys make a good point, I'll concede this one haha. It's one thing if it's an architectural lyrics distinct neighbourhood, it's another when it's Spence we're talking here.

[Wpg_Guy]

Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

The proposed building at 436 Balmoral St was rejected by the planning department. In the Administrative Report, they recommend a 6-8 story building. There are more drawings in the link below:

https://legacy.winnipeg.ca/PPD/Documents/CityPlanning/Reports/25-117254-VC.pdf

It seems as though this was not a very cooperative developer. Considering the prominence of the proposed building it seriously lacks in visual design and aesthetics. Winnipeg is way past the point of saying yes to everything and needs to start upholding higher planning and design standards.

[Wpg_Guy]

The Banks Condominiums
Location: 1924 St. Mary’s Road
Developers: StreetSide Developments
Architects:
Status: U/C
Documents: Brochure | Subdivision and Rezoning | Variance
Media: -
Description: StreetSide Developments is constructing a 6-storey multi-family residential building containing 69 units.

[Wpg_Guy]

1918 SMR
Location: 1918 St. Mary's Road
Developers: Carrington Real Estate
Architects: Verne Reimer Architecture
Status: U/C
Documents: Plan Approval | Submitted Plans
Media: Multi-family development on St. Mary’s gets OK
Description: Proposed are two multi-family residential buildings, one eight-storey building containing 164 units and one six-storey building containing 75 units, at 1918 St. Mary’s Rd







1920 SMR
Location: 1920 St. Mary's Road
Developers: Carrington Real Estate
Architects: Verne Reimer Architecture
Status: U/C
Documents: Plan Approval | Submitted Plans
Media: Multi-family development on St. Mary’s gets OK
Description: Proposed are two multi-family residential buildings, one eight-storey building containing 168 units (1918 SMR) and one six-storey building containing 102 units (1920 SMR).

[WinCitySparky]

After that episode with the Lemay Forest I have a bit of a bad taste in my mouth about Wintrup.

[neutroniks]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

1918 SMR
Location: 1918 St. Mary's Road
Developers: Carrington Real Estate
Architects: Verne Reimer Architecture
Status: U/C
Documents: Plan Approval | Submitted Plans
Media: Multi-family development on St. Mary’s gets OK
Description: Proposed are two multi-family residential buildings, one eight-storey building containing 164 units and one six-storey building containing 75 units, at 1918 St. Mary’s Rd

Would love it if a couple of these were built on St. Marys, along that stretch North of where it forks at St. Annes.

[wags_in_the_peg]

The Banks is almost a carbon copy of Vue Tache, which makes sense as they are both Streetside. Beautiful building btw

[Wpg_Guy]

East of the Red RecPlex
Location: Northwest corner of Transcona Boulevard and Plessis Road, next to the Transcona Library
Developers: City Of Winnipeg
Architects: Number TEN Architectural Group
Status: In development
Documents: Open house presentation boards - February 2025 | Photo Gallery
Media: Winnipeg’s First New Public Pool in 4 Decades Proposed for Transcona
Description: The City of Winnipeg is in the preliminary design stage of a new recreation centre called the East of the Red RecPlex. This proposed centre will be a place where families and individuals can enjoy various activities all in one location. The proposed regional centre will be located at the northwest corner of Transcona Boulevard and Plessis Road, next to the Transcona Library

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