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Old Posted Jan 7, 2020, 8:50 PM
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This list dates from June, but gives you an idea. Obviously, the ION and O-Train Confederation Line are now complete. The O-Train Stage 2 and Hurontario are now u/c. Vancouver's Millennium extension (Broadway Subway) is planned.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6990171&postcount=1
Broadway starts construction later this year and launches in 2025.
     
     
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People are for real entertaining themselves with the idea of an express subway to Richmond Hill Centre.
     
     
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I actually don't mind the idea, but there should at least be a stop at Bloor, especially if they're planning them at John Street and 16 Avenue.
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People are for real entertaining themselves with the idea of an express subway to Richmond Hill Centre.
It should have been sold as the Bay St. Subway or something.
     
     
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People are for real entertaining themselves with the idea of an express subway to Richmond Hill Centre.
There is such a void of good RT that if someone were to start suggesting anything, people would get on board with it.

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It should have been sold as the Bay St. Subway or something.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2020, 4:59 AM
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Are there any plans to have an LRT station connect to the Via Station?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2020, 3:35 PM
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No - it will be somewhat walkable though. With only a few trains a week it makes no sense.
     
     
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No - it will be somewhat walkable though. With only a few trains a week it makes no sense.
How far? How would it be if you had baggage?
     
     
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I appreciate the rapid transit chart and know that it was stated that these are subway and LRT only but for many BRT is a far superior choice and can be considerably faster and more reliable than than wither subways or LRT.

Look at Mississauga's new BRT which is grade separated for most of it's length. It is as fast as any LRT or subway but gives the advantage of being able to run semi-express and total express lines along it and can also used by feeder routes getting rid of the dreaded "last mile" which inhibits the attractiveness of transit for many "choice" riders. These are 2 attributes that neither LRT or subway offer. They can also be more reliable as a any rail vehicle that breaks down blocks all the other vehicles from passing it and hence can bring an entire system to a halt while replacement buses are far more easily deployed and can be routed around.

I knew the chart was not meant to denigrate BRT and as I stated I very much appreciate the comparison chart which God knows I could never do but I think in Canada we tend to look down on effective BRT as a consolation prize as opposed to the exceptional transit system that they have proven to be worldwide.
     
     
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How far? How would it be if you had baggage?
About 1 km. Once the roads are done at some point in the next 10 years. Important to remember that for Edmonton VIA Rail is more like a cruise ship terminal where no one is leaving for excursions than a transit option. I don’t know the O&D stats versus people passing through but in my experience using it once, maybe a single train may have had 40 people getting on, and 40 getting off on the cheapest way to get from Saskatoon to Edmonton at the end of the Thanksgiving weekend (probably one of the busiest O&D times of the year).
     
     
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I appreciate the rapid transit chart and know that it was stated that these are subway and LRT only but for many BRT is a far superior choice and can be considerably faster and more reliable than than wither subways or LRT.

Look at Mississauga's new BRT which is grade separated for most of it's length. It is as fast as any LRT or subway but gives the advantage of being able to run semi-express and total express lines along it and can also used by feeder routes getting rid of the dreaded "last mile" which inhibits the attractiveness of transit for many "choice" riders. These are 2 attributes that neither LRT or subway offer. They can also be more reliable as a any rail vehicle that breaks down blocks all the other vehicles from passing it and hence can bring an entire system to a halt while replacement buses are far more easily deployed and can be routed around.

I knew the chart was not meant to denigrate BRT and as I stated I very much appreciate the comparison chart which God knows I could never do but I think in Canada we tend to look down on effective BRT as a consolation prize as opposed to the exceptional transit system that they have proven to be worldwide.
30 years ago, a BRT was created and it has undergone a major transformation that had, and still has some major growing pains.

It has proven that BRT done right can be a success, but after a few decades should be upgraded to LRT or higher order. Right now, we have several BRT corridors in Canada. Give them 10-25 years and they will need to upgrade. All LRTs, even the Ion LRVs hold more than a bendy bus or a double decker.

Express buses makes more sense for short term ridership growth. For example, if they had put the BLAST network in Hamilton as an express service, it would have show the city council and the province that there is a demand for higher order service.


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About 1 km. Once the roads are done at some point in the next 10 years. Important to remember that for Edmonton VIA Rail is more like a cruise ship terminal where no one is leaving for excursions than a transit option. I don’t know the O&D stats versus people passing through but in my experience using it once, maybe a single train may have had 40 people getting on, and 40 getting off on the cheapest way to get from Saskatoon to Edmonton at the end of the Thanksgiving weekend (probably one of the busiest O&D times of the year).
So, not walkable. Too bad the city didn't make it a station. It may be underused, but at least it would show the federal government that they are ready for more VIA service.
     
     
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So, not walkable. Too bad the city didn't make it a station. It may be underused, but at least it would show the federal government that they are ready for more VIA service.
where the VIA station is would be the worst possible place to try to have VIA service to Calgary. Any foreseeable new service would involve a new station. There isn’t a huge demand for travel to jasper or saskatoon (the CN mainline that the VIA station is on) that takes 6 hours if on schedule, and shows up anywhere from on time to 36 hours late.
     
     
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Procurement has re-started for Edmonton's Valley Line West and r.o.w. prep well underway;

https://transformingedmonton.ca/keeping-track-progress-on-valley-line-west-lrt/

Looking at lightrail's list, Edmonton's network seems a bit smaller than YYC and Ottawa considering similar population. Though YEG APTA ridership is similar, accounting for neighbouring municipalities.
Ville Quebec, Hamilton, Winnipeg all have plans or real BRT. Hopefully all communities keep investing (or we get free transportation from Google while we're inundated with ads in autonomous vehicles though this won't solve spatial problems of how much land car infrastructure takes up).
     
     
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TTC Streetcars in 1945. I wonder if they still had all the lines, would the city be better? What would the expansions look like now.
     
     
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