Phoenix Development News (3) - Page 670

CrestedSaguaro · #**13381** Posted **Nov 28, 2018, 9:59 PM**

Not sure if anyone has seen this, but I don't recall it being posted previously. Found a fly-around video of Palm Court Tower. It's low res and not in color. But it does give a really good idea of how it will improve the massing of the block which I think will really look good once built.

https://vimeo.com/265917151

gymratmanaz · #**13382** Posted **Nov 28, 2018, 10:08 PM**

Very cool video!!!!

ASU Diablo · #**13383** Posted **Nov 28, 2018, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Not sure if anyone has seen this, but I don't recall it being posted previously. Found a fly-around video of Palm Court Tower. It's low res and not in color. But it does give a really good idea of how it will improve the massing of the block which I think will really look good once built.

https://vimeo.com/265917151

How tall was the AC Marriott supposed to be again? Looks pretty tall in the video...unless not to scale

CrestedSaguaro · #**13384** Posted **Nov 28, 2018, 10:22 PM**

AC Hotel is not actually in the video. It will go in the space circled in red in the snippet below. It's proposed at 15 floors which will put it around 180'ish.

Obadno · #**13385** Posted **Nov 28, 2018, 10:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

How tall was the AC Marriott supposed to be again? Looks pretty tall in the video...unless not to scale

It is 15 floors and it should be about 2/3's the height of the APS building next door.

azliam · #**13386** Posted **Nov 28, 2018, 10:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Not sure if anyone has seen this, but I don't recall it being posted previously. Found a fly-around video of Palm Court Tower. It's low res and not in color. But it does give a really good idea of how it will improve the massing of the block which I think will really look good once built.

https://vimeo.com/265917151

Thanks for posting, although I found it to be a rather annoying video.

ASU Diablo · #**13387** Posted **Nov 28, 2018, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

It is 15 floors and it should be about 2/3's the height of the APS building next door.

Yeah my bad!! Totally spaced out and thought the APS building was the AC hotel lol

ASU Diablo · #**13388** Posted **Nov 28, 2018, 10:42 PM**

Demo finally underway for the old McKinley Court apartments...

Phxguy · #**13389** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 7:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Interesting. The old MADE Art boutique house...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ry/description

I was searching for anything indicating Made boutique/gallery closing but it seems it will be incorporated into the project and remain open. I mean if this project is a go, this is an all around win-win! I’m still a bit confused if there’s already application being filed for this property why a kickstarter page exists. I mean, if they’re already moving forward they would be set back if they didn’t achieve their kickstart goal, right?

Also, on their Kickstarter blurb about the project, there’s some cool sketch renderings showing that it will add a new building to the lot currently occupied by the shipping containers along Roosevelt with a beer garden between.

combusean · #**13390** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 9:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by Mr.RE

Huh? The Link is 30 stories tall and only 257 units. There is indeed enough land and units to build a highrise. Its about unit sizing, corridors, and amenity spaces that determine units/floor. Anything is possible these days with how developers are becoming more ambitious.

I'm providing evidence and responding with pie-in-the-sky arguments is silly and annoying.

1) Link phase 1 is on a half acre lot. Literally less than a fifth the size. Completely not possible to compare the two.

2) Not anything is possible. Developers are working to make a profit in a third-tier metro.

3) I was right.

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Agreed. 324 units could easily fill a high-rise even with a large lot (Stewart is 312 units at 19 floors on 1.25 acres).

You disagree then agree with me in two sentences. Weird.

Stewart is on .8 acres.

Do you guys just have no concept of how this works? Like, how unrealistic it is to have a highrise with a 2.7 acre lot size (we don't do "towers in the park" anymore) and how much bigger that is than < 1 acre?

Mr.RE · #**13391** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 3:13 PM**

I was simply addressing your claim that "322 units is not enough to build a high-rise" and to your new claim that its unrealistic to do a highrise on 2.7 acres, the Union Tempe is 20 and 12 story "high-rise" on over 3 acres. I rest my case.

combusean · #**13392** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 4:06 PM**

Union Tempe has 31,000 sqft of retail and 607 total hotel and residential units on a similar size block (3.22 acres). It is 188 du/acre. That's highrise density, even without the retail.

Fore Fillmore is 119 du/acre is dense for woodframe but not the densest lately and compares very close with Fore's other property on Central and Columbus.

Your insinuating that I had no idea what I was talking about when I was right speaks for itself. Moroeover, my being right wasn't coincidental, I track these projects deeper than you.

biggus diggus · #**13393** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 5:03 PM**

self-worth should not be dependent on whether or not you are right on the internet.

I'm watching them finally tear down the apartments on 3rd and mckinley from my office window. Quite interesting they had to do so much prep work before the actual tear down came, I assume remediation of lead and/or asbestos?

CrestedSaguaro · #**13394** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 5:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by biggus diggus

self-worth should not be dependent on whether or not you are right on the internet.

I'm watching them finally tear down the apartments on 3rd and mckinley from my office window. Quite interesting they had to do so much prep work before the actual tear down came, I assume remediation of lead and/or asbestos?

What is supposed to go there?

combusean · #**13395** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 5:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by biggus diggus

self-worth should not be dependent on whether or not you are right on the internet.

I'm not going to let shit slide regardless of who it's from. Do not make this personal.

There are many reasons for you to not do so.

Also, I'm done. There will be no more posts about this.

ASU Diablo · #**13396** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 6:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Demo finally underway for the old McKinley Court apartments...

@RonnieFoos

http://ccbg-arch.com/project/92

biggus diggus · #**13397** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 6:12 PM**

Looks like cafe space fronting McKinley, I hope that happens.

CrestedSaguaro · #**13398** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 6:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

@RonnieFoos

http://ccbg-arch.com/project/92

Ah, thanks! I knew what this development was. But for some reason, I thought these were going along the North side of McKinley between 2nd and 3rd Ave. Didn't realize it was going in at the location of the old Court apartments.

ASU Diablo · #**13399** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 6:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Ah, thanks! I knew what this development was. But for some reason, I thought these were going along the North side of McKinley between 2nd and 3rd Ave. Didn't realize it was going in at the location of the old Court apartments.

LOL it is. It's all those lots combined

CrestedSaguaro · #**13400** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 6:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

LOL it is. It's all those lots combined

Oh nice! I checked the assessor site and those lots still show as owned by the city, so I wasn't sure. Thanks for clarifying. This will be a great project for the area and start to tie in the other McKinley townhome developments.