Phoenix Development News (3)

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by Obadno

So we are going to have a 17 story Aspirant and 15 story (uknown) across the street from eachother?

Looks like it

[combusean]

^ No way the Fore proposal is 15 stories. They bought a 2.7 acre lot (which includes O'Neill) and 322 units isn't enough to become a highrise.

I'm going to wager that it will be similar in density and style to the Columbus development, so probably 6ish stories. Razing O'Neill is a huge win in lieu of significant height--that should have never been built downtown.

Aspirant's Duo on Fillmore across the street is proposed for that kinda height.

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by Jjs5056

I hate that they are throwing around the word 'grocery' in tandem with the retail component. 1 big box grocer is already more than a downtown needs, s o I'd hate to see much of this frontage wasted on another.

I'd welcome a Whole Foods Market all day long. The new DUS neighborhood has two grocers within two blocks. The King Soopers I'd assume would be very similar to what Fry's will be. Their Whole Foods Market is amazing; you stand in line for their express checkout waiting for the next of like eight express stations. They have seating both inside and outside, do a ton of lunch business. They also have some tie-ins with Amazon.

[TakeFive]

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WSJ and KNXV MIami via ABC15

Miami billionaire developer planning three Valley projects
Nov 27, 2018 By Fay Fredricks/ABC15

SCOTTSDALE, AZ - A billionaire real estate mogul is setting his sights on Arizona.

Jorge Perez is known as Miami's "Condo King" for developing $17 billion worth of South Florida real estate since 1979. Now, he's turning his attention to Arizona, with plans to invest a half billion dollars into Valley real estate development.

Not exactly a 'surf and turf' so why Phoenix?

Perez says he chose Arizona because of the low unemployment rate and other positive economic indicators that he believes make it a good long-term play for his company, Related Group.

Perez says it will be a mix of retail and residential with three projects expected to launch next year.

Article doesn't disclose what 'part' of the Valley; hopefully downtown Phoenix but either Scottsdale or Tempe could be targets as well.

[TJPHXskyscraperfan]

Originally Posted by phoenixwillrise

Having grown up in Phoenix and now living in Bellingham, Wa I would like to say yes the Sonics had some great teams but right now in Seattle they rejected a new arena and have basically agreed to rebuild Key Arena. Comparing the Seahawks attendance to Key Arena disregards the fact that they have what 8 home games on Sunday, (far less traffic),vs 41 home games (often week day nights) and it's much easier to get off of I-90 and I-5 to get to that stadium. For Key Arena you have to work your way thru the numerous office buildings with a heck of a lot of traffic to get to Key Arena. Not something people having worked all day would like doing. Traffic in Seattle is some of the worst anywhere and will not help them getting another team.

Again, traffic sounds like a horrible reason not to have a basketball team. Maybe one of the worst reasons I've ever heard of. Idk the rail routes there but I'm sure that's a good way to the game, I take the train to the Suns game every time I go. You don't think there's a lot of traffic to say, ummm the TD Garden in Boston on a Wednesday night? Or how bout Staples in LA? Or better yet, how bout the new arena that's being built in San Fransisco for the Warriors. Come on man this is a rediculous argument. Or How bout something closer to home, do you think people in Vancouver don't go to Canucks games because the traffic is bad up there?

[Jjs5056]

Originally Posted by biggus diggus

By the time any of those retailers would be attracted to downtown Phoenix those retailers wouldn't exist in their current form.

Why, though? I stayed at the Georgia Tech Conference Center which is not even the main campus and was in walking distance of Barnes and Noble, Amazon, LA Fitness, CVS, several grocers, etc.

ASU has its main building across the street; the tallest tower in AZ is across; a great mixed use lot at OCPE is across... I agree w/ those saying the County is wasting the Security Building -- those would be gorgeous condos, and that corner would look amazing with cafes/boutiques.

It is crazy to me that ASU has not attracted a bookstore, Apple/Windows, Best Buy, Target...

Are any of the Fillmore projects mixed use? With the RFP project and Vig/Cibo, Fillmore could make a great neighborhood main street and connected PBC to Grand. I am assuming that hoping the Victorian home that is adjacent to O'Neil might become something is crazy?

Also, any news on...
1. Sazerac?
2. Revolver, and the two warehouses to its east?
3. The Tavern?
4. The building adjacent to Matt's?
5. The original Matt's?
6. Is Wing Street remaining near the market, or is Google Maps playing me?

[Jjs5056]

Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Same here. Add another 10-15 stories of height and I'll be even more happy!

And I believe this might be the first time that Jjs has spoken 100% positively about a proposed project

Between this and OCPE [minus the dead space on 1st St], Phoenix finally looks like it is attracting great projects. 1 tower and a garage should never be tolerated again, and by the looks of proposals like Central/Adams, it seems those days are over. I don't care if the retail mix 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 or the towers are short; the bones are at least being built for a city with multiple uses per block.

BTW, any word on whether the Brewery [OS..forget the acronym] is still opening streetside at Monroe/3rd St? The entire CC should be lined similarly, but I'll take it if so. Also, 1 downer comment -- the lack of retail in the Adams garage, the Renaissance arcade, RenSquare, and Phelps Dodge.

[Chestnut1]

Some new site/building plan submittals I found searching permits, mostly small stuff:

2315 N 7TH ST - CASA COLADOS COFFEE - ADAPTIVE REUSE OF AN EXISTING BUILDING, PROJECT INVOLVES A CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY FROM R-3/S-2 TO AN A-2 COFFEE SHOP WITH AN OUTDOOR DINING PATIO.

4414 N 7TH AVE - CHULLO RESTAURANT (The former Compadres Restaurant location) - REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING ROOF, REMODELING EXISTING RESTAURANT, DEMOLITION OF EXISTING INTERIOR WALLS,
NEW INTERIOR PARTITIONS. MINOR SITE STRIPING/ TRASH ENCLOSURE

301 W ROOSEVELT ST - ECO PHX - CONSTRUCTION OF MIXED USE 70 DWELLING UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING

[combusean]

^ Permit activity for 301 W Roosevelt is certainly good news. Thanks for posting, this project seems like it's been more under the radar.

[azliam]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

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WSJ and KNXV MIami via ABC15

Miami billionaire developer planning three Valley projects
Nov 27, 2018 By Fay Fredricks/ABC15

Not exactly a 'surf and turf' so why Phoenix?

Article doesn't disclose what 'part' of the Valley; hopefully downtown Phoenix but either Scottsdale or Tempe could be targets as well.

Thanks for posting. I hope it's downtown Phoenix.

[Mr.RE]

Originally Posted by combusean

^ No way the Fore proposal is 15 stories. They bought a 2.7 acre lot (which includes O'Neill) and 322 units isn't enough to become a highrise. .

Huh? The Link is 30 stories tall and only 257 units. There is indeed enough land and units to build a highrise. Its about unit sizing, corridors, and amenity spaces that determine units/floor. Anything is possible these days with how developers are becoming more ambitious.

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by combusean

^ Permit activity for 301 W Roosevelt is certainly good news. Thanks for posting, this project seems like it's been more under the radar.

Certainly great news. This one of the projects I’m keeping a close eye on...can’t wait for that eyesore to be gone

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by Mr.RE

Huh? The Link is 30 stories tall and only 257 units. There is indeed enough land and units to build a highrise. Its about unit sizing, corridors, and amenity spaces that determine units/floor. Anything is possible these days with how developers are becoming more ambitious.

Agreed. 324 units could easily fill a high-rise even with a large lot (Stewart is 312 units at 19 floors on 1.25 acres). However, after researching this more, I found the height is listed in the alley abandonment request. It will be 7 floors. Development will also be mixed use with active street level retail. We'll get more info today after the plan review hearing after 10.

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by Jjs5056

Are any of the Fillmore projects mixed use? With the RFP project and Vig/Cibo, Fillmore could make a great neighborhood main street and connected PBC to Grand. I am assuming that hoping the Victorian home that is adjacent to O'Neil might become something is crazy?

Also, any news on...
2. Revolver, and the two warehouses to its east?
3. The Tavern?
6. Is Wing Street remaining near the market, or is Google Maps playing me?

No, you're not crazy on possibly rehabbing the Victorian home. I walk by it by work every day and would love to see something done with it. I'm not sure what Items 2 and 3 are.

As for 6, I'm assuming you mean the Pizza Hut? If so, I think it should be closed by now. Their new location at the garage retail opened last week I believe

[Phxguy]

Originally Posted by Jjs5056

BTW, any word on whether the Brewery [OS..forget the acronym] is still opening streetside at Monroe/3rd St? The entire CC should be lined similarly, but I'll take it if so. Also, 1 downer comment -- the lack of retail in the Adams garage, the Renaissance arcade, RenSquare, and Phelps Dodge.

There’s a brewery opening up at the Phoenix CC?! I need the deats on this,
who, what, where, and when? Sources??

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by azliam

Thanks for posting. I hope it's downtown Phoenix.

More info at PBJ but it's behind paywall:

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news...using-developer-plans-500m-worth-of.html

So far, the company is looking at 20 potential sites in the Phoenix area and is under contract and in the due diligence process for three sites. The company expects to end up with about four or five sites for its first Valley developments.

The company is specifically interested in focusing on Tempe, Scottsdale, downtown Phoenix and Deer Valley, Pèrez said. The company develops all types of multifamily properties, ranging from luxury condominiums to affordable and workforce housing projects. In the Valley, Pèrez said the company is likely to start with a garden-style apartment concept, a mid-rise product and a high-rise product, which should offer a variety of options in different price ranges.

[muertecaza]

Originally Posted by Phxguy

There’s a brewery opening up at the Phoenix CC?! I need the deats on this,
who, what, where, and when? Sources??

https://fronterasdesk.org/content/664924/outdoor-dining-brew-pub-coming-phoenix-convention-center

[biggus diggus]

"Aventura Catering, proposed subcontracting with a local pub."

So, not confirmed. OHSO is a good place to get a decent beer. Hope it happens.

[Chestnut1]

The discussion about breweries reminded me that I forgot to post this project. It's a pre-app, so it's in the early stages:

922 N 5TH ST - GREENWOOD BREWING - PRE-APP FOR A NEW BREWERY AND TAPROOM. BREWERY IS NEW BUILD, TAPROOM/BAR IS REMODEL / ADAPTIVE
RE-USE. 2 LOTS TO BE COMBINED.

Also, if you want to get around the PBJ paywall, simply view the page through Google Translate. It's always worked for me.

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by Chestnut1

The discussion about breweries reminded me that I forgot to post this project. It's a pre-app, so it's in the early stages:

922 N 5TH ST - GREENWOOD BREWING - PRE-APP FOR A NEW BREWERY AND TAPROOM. BREWERY IS NEW BUILD, TAPROOM/BAR IS REMODEL / ADAPTIVE
RE-USE. 2 LOTS TO BE COMBINED.

Also, if you want to get around the PBJ paywall, simply view the page through Google Translate. It's always worked for me.

Interesting. The old MADE Art boutique house...