The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread

[ColSJ]

[QUOTE=bridgeoftea;9899995]

Originally Posted by IloveSJ

That's brilliant! Looks a strong start to the year. I'd love to get more details surrounding the East Point site with 2 excavators there now.

April is going to be a really exciting month for construction in Saint John.

[adamuptownsj]

Originally Posted by adamuptownsj

IDK if I have permission to share the plans, but when Cunningham Excavation acquired the Manawagonish/Wild Fox Dr property where they are building a 24-unit to some opposition, they also acquired 3 other parcels where plans look a little more appealing to current residents:

-a parcel at the east end of private Bent Anchor Court, where 4 garden homes/townhouses are planned
-a parcel at the corner of Wild Fox and the future north end of Jennifer, 6 garden houses/town homes planned across from the current Wild Fox garden homes
-a larger parcel east of the future north end of Jennifer, where three SFHs and a possible extension of Wild Fox to the west is planned

All in all 13 units, which would complete build-out of the serviced portion of this subdivision. Apparently, the soils south of it would make new construction there complicated.

If I am not mistaken, part of the 24-unit's approval involves a new sidewalk from it to Day St.

This was all in front of PAC on Tuesday. I assume they approved. The NW third of PAN 05913371 has been reserved for both
1) Future development- perhaps semi-detached?
2) A westward extension of Wild Fox into PAN 04918954

[cdnguys]

Blasting started in Cambridge Estates on Wednesday - for at least the new homes.

[cdnguys]

www.AquariusTowers.com

[JHikka]

I was going to make a joke about the towers paying homage to the west side's favourite bar but I guess it makes sense given that it's on the same lot.

Not sure i'd want to live on speedway golden mile, personally. Needs a road diet if it's going to become mixed-use in this way.

[darkharbour]

Originally Posted by JHikka

I was going to make a joke about the towers paying homage to the west side's favourite bar but I guess it makes sense given that it's on the same lot.

Not sure i'd want to live on speedway golden mile, personally. Needs a road diet if it's going to become mixed-use in this way.

Yeah I like the West Side a lot, but that road is at least 1-2 lanes too wide for the most part.

[905er]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

www.AquariusTowers.com

"towers"... that's a bit of a stretch.

[Helladog]

Originally Posted by 905er

"towers"... that's a bit of a stretch.

I was thinking the same thing.

[nwalbert]

I was speaking to someone currently working at the Port on the weekend and quickly discussed the new cranes.

They are not operational yet, but once they are and the larger ships are able to come in, they are expecting to hire 3-400 additional people to support the growth. These are high paying jobs ($1-200K per year ) that should really impact the economics and growth of the city. Really awesome stuff.

[UptownJeff]

Originally Posted by nwalbert

I was speaking to someone currently working at the Port on the weekend and quickly discussed the new cranes.

They are not operational yet, but once they are and the larger ships are able to come in, they are expecting to hire 3-400 additional people to support the growth. These are high paying jobs ($1-200K per year ) that should really impact the economics and growth of the city. Really awesome stuff.

100%! I also understand that the hope is to have 6 cranes operational - this will not only drive very well paying port jobs but should encourage other companies to locate/relocate to Saint John. The Port will be a major economic driver not only fro Saint John but for our region.

[cdnguys]

I never recall container ships at anchor. One has been anchored for 4 days now waiting to come into port. A larger one just came in - it must of had priority. One that just left going to Hamburg.

[ColSJ]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

I never recall container ships at anchor. One has been anchored for 4 days now waiting to come into port. A larger one just came in - it must of had priority. One that just left going to Hamburg.

I’ve seen as many as 4 in the bay waiting to come in. The one that just left was a Hapag-Lloyd ship, the one that came in this morning is MSC and the one in the bay right now is CMA CGM.

[nwalbert]

Originally Posted by UptownJeff

100%! I also understand that the hope is to have 6 cranes operational - this will not only drive very well paying port jobs but should encourage other companies to locate/relocate to Saint John. The Port will be a major economic driver not only fro Saint John but for our region.

The economic and growth impact will be quite substantial. We may not recognize SJ is ten years.

The impact of the cargo coming in will be significant at YSJ as well as it becomes the regional hub for cargo, which could then mean it becomes a passenger hub also.

[bridgeoftea]

Originally Posted by nwalbert

I was speaking to someone currently working at the Port on the weekend and quickly discussed the new cranes.

They are not operational yet, but once they are and the larger ships are able to come in, they are expecting to hire 3-400 additional people to support the growth. These are high paying jobs ($1-200K per year ) that should really impact the economics and growth of the city. Really awesome stuff.

Let's hope that it helps continue to push the growth and increase in homes, apartments and amenities to go with the attractive pay to work at the port.

[magee_b]

Originally Posted by nwalbert

The economic and growth impact will be quite substantial. We may not recognize SJ is ten years.

The impact of the cargo coming in will be significant at YSJ as well as it becomes the regional hub for cargo, which could then mean it becomes a passenger hub also.

It won't become a passenger hub, because that's not how airline models in North America currently operate. But, there is no doubt great opportunities for setting up infrastructure to handle air cargo to complement the great work at the port. And while I'd love to see YSJ become utilized more, I'd also say it would be better for the province as a whole to improve the rail network between Port SJ and Moncton to take advantage of the strengths of each which already exist (SJ's port and Moncton's Cargo facilities).

In the meantime, just have to celebrate the great work being done at the port, and hope that all their plans come to fruition. And on the airport side, hope that YSJ can find a way to attract more passenger flights (quantity/destinations) from the currently available carriers. Who knows whats going to happen with Flair (they aren't on the best footing financially), and they are currently seasonal only. Lynx is a newcomer in Fredericton and decided to do same plane service from YFC-YYZ-YYC - which I think is potentially a better model to service our smaller east coast cities for similar Low Cost Carriers (easier to fill a 180+ seat plane with people going to both Toronto & Calgary than one going to just Toronto without the ability to connect). Would be nice to get Porter back in the lineup and some winter charters going again. And yes, utilizing vacant land for cargo or other airside services would be great to see. One step at a time I suppose.

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by magee_b

It won't become a passenger hub, because that's not how airline models in North America currently operate. But, there is no doubt great opportunities for setting up infrastructure to handle air cargo to complement the great work at the port. And while I'd love to see YSJ become utilized more, I'd also say it would be better for the province as a whole to improve the rail network between Port SJ and Moncton to take advantage of the strengths of each which already exist (SJ's port and Moncton's Cargo facilities).

I feel like the port’s business proposition / advantage over Halifax is to have cargo moving quickly to market in the southwest direction directly to USA/Mexico. I’m not sure facilities in Moncton would be part of that plan. Of course, I’m no expert …

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

I feel like the port’s business proposition / advantage over Halifax is to have cargo moving quickly to market in the southwest direction directly to USA/Mexico. I’m not sure facilities in Moncton would be part of that plan. Of course, I’m no expert …

Moncton is a major warehousing and distribution centre. There may be the opportunity for some synergy there, but I get the impression most of Port Saint John's growth is due to integration with CP Rail, and movement of freight to the south.

Saint John's logistical future is tied to CP Rail. Moncton's logistical future is tied to central location, the TCH and CNR. There's room for both.

[UptownJeff]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Moncton is a major warehousing and distribution centre. There may be the opportunity for some synergy there, but I get the impression most of Port Saint John's growth is due to integration with CP Rail, and movement of freight to the south.

Saint John's logistical future is tied to CP Rail. Moncton's logistical future is tied to central location, the TCH and CNR. There's room for both.

Agreed - there is room for both. As I understand it, Halifax is closer to European markets and Saint John is closer to Eastern seaboard (US) and South American markets.

[nwalbert]

Originally Posted by magee_b

It won't become a passenger hub, because that's not how airline models in North America currently operate. But, there is no doubt great opportunities for setting up infrastructure to handle air cargo to complement the great work at the port. And while I'd love to see YSJ become utilized more, I'd also say it would be better for the province as a whole to improve the rail network between Port SJ and Moncton to take advantage of the strengths of each which already exist (SJ's port and Moncton's Cargo facilities).

In the meantime, just have to celebrate the great work being done at the port, and hope that all their plans come to fruition. And on the airport side, hope that YSJ can find a way to attract more passenger flights (quantity/destinations) from the currently available carriers. Who knows whats going to happen with Flair (they aren't on the best footing financially), and they are currently seasonal only. Lynx is a newcomer in Fredericton and decided to do same plane service from YFC-YYZ-YYC - which I think is potentially a better model to service our smaller east coast cities for similar Low Cost Carriers (easier to fill a 180+ seat plane with people going to both Toronto & Calgary than one going to just Toronto without the ability to connect). Would be nice to get Porter back in the lineup and some winter charters going again. And yes, utilizing vacant land for cargo or other airside services would be great to see. One step at a time I suppose.

I did not mean a Hub in the way that an airline uses the term, but more of a regional hub as infrastructure is built.

Warehouses are not expensive or difficult to build. With he scale of goods were talking about, it really is not going to make economic sense to send them 150km in the wrong direction to store them, only to be sent back in the other direction. Saint John will continue to see this infrastructure get built up, similar to the millions already spent on the logistics park on the West side.

[KnoxfordGuy]

I'd love to be able to get on a cruise ship in Saint John. Not need to go to New York or Miami. Maybe someday?