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Old Posted Dec 14, 2007, 1:56 AM
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Oh darn MP has dropped YEG...Oh and YYC too!!!Whats this world coming to?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2007, 4:17 AM
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Dont know how offical this is but a AC employee informed me that AC will switch to a A330-300 on the YEG-LHR route for the spring/summer.He says that a few staff ground staff from YEG are going to YYC to train on the ground handling for the type...It does give us a increase in seating if thats the case.The AC 330's seat 274 pax as the 763's are slightly less.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2007, 5:07 AM
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hmmm and what would happen to the 767?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2007, 5:50 AM
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Hopefully they send them to arizona...the old AC 763's are terrible...
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Hopefully they send them to arizona...the old AC 763's are terrible...
when the 787s start to arrive its either that or the third world
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2007, 3:49 PM
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Hopefully they send them to arizona...the old AC 763's are terrible...
Don't know about AC's 763's but i love this airplane in general. It has the best seat configuration of all aircraft. Saying that, AC's 330's are great. I'm curious if AC will XM their 330's. If so, for me this will be AC's best aircraft. I flew AC's 777 last summer and would take the 330 over the 777.
     
     
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I believe that AC initially didn't plan on XMing the A330s; however, I have heard rumours that that plan has changed. I suspect that they expect a delay in the delivery of the 787s and so are planning on holding onto the A330s longer than initially expected. Not a bad aircraft to be stuck with.
     
     
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maybe that 763 will be our frankfurt?
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Well the YYC-FRA flight switches to a B763 in April, so that is most likely where this A330 would be coming from.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2007, 10:39 PM
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I believe that AC initially didn't plan on XMing the A330s; however, I have heard rumours that that plan has changed. I suspect that they expect a delay in the delivery of the 787s and so are planning on holding onto the A330s longer than initially expected. Not a bad aircraft to be stuck with.
Delivery dates for the 787 (for AC) will not be delayed and they will keep the A330s along with the 787/767 for a few years until all of the 787s are delivered. They will probably order the 787-9 to replace the A330-300.

Also, Air Canada will start installing the new XM interiors on the A330s starting early next year (Jan/Feb). It shouldn't take long as they don't have a very large fleet of them. They will probably be completed around late fall next year. The 767s will be finished by year-end next year. Narrowbodies will be done by summer.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2007, 12:33 AM
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Dont know how offical this is but a AC employee informed me that AC will switch to a A330-300 on the YEG-LHR route for the spring/summer.He says that a few staff ground staff from YEG are going to YYC to train on the ground handling for the type...It does give us a increase in seating if thats the case.The AC 330's seat 274 pax as the 763's are slightly less.
They won't need to be trained in Calgary. The ground loading of an A330 is pretty much a cross between a 767 and the A320 series. Basically, all the door operations etc. are identical to the 320 series just bigger. The actual loading of containers would be no different than loading a 767. Even when the 777 was coming to YYC they didn't send any of the YYC guys for training. They did it via a computer program in Calgary.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 18, 2007, 9:31 PM
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from USA Today

Edmonton stakes place as one of the fastest-growing airports

Canada's Edmonton International Airport is reporting passenger increases that would make it one of the fastest-growing in the world. Through the first 11 months of 2007, the number of fliers boarding flights at Edmonton stood at 5,556,315 -– a 17.1% increase when compared to the same period in 2006, according to the airport's most-recent data. Overseas traffic fueled the growth. The international passenger count at Edmonton in 2007 stood at 281,326 through November, a whopping 101.8% increase over the same period in 2006. Growth in U.S. markets also was strong for Edmonton, which reported a 16.8% year-over-year increase in trans-border traffic. "International" and "trans-border" traffic to the U.S. are counted separately in the airport's passenger counts.

Such growth has been the trend at Edmonton. "The growth in passenger traffic has been explosive since 2004, mirroring Alberta's hot resource economy: 5.2 million in 2006; 4.5 million in 2005 and 4.1 million in 2004," writes the Edmonton Journal. "We are projecting that we will reach or exceed 6.1 million passengers by the time 2007 is over," Edmonton Airports spokesman Jim Rudolph says in an e-mail to Today in the Sky. "Essentially we have increased our passenger volumes by 50% over the past three years, and are quickly moving from a small airport to a medium-sized hub in short order."

As you might expect, airport officials hope the rising passenger numbers bring more international routes. In a previous press release from November, Edmonton airport chief Reg Milley says the airport's "unprecedented growth numbers are important because they help us build the case with airlines that Edmonton and northern and western Canada deserve even more air service through Edmonton International, especially to international destinations such as Frankfurt or Amsterdam."
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Too bad they don't mention the coming $! Billion expansion. I think it would help drive home Reg Milley's quote "Essentially we have increased our passenger volumes by 50% over the past three years, and are quickly moving from a small airport to a medium-sized hub in short order."

In doing so it could help us with marketing our desire for "international destinations such as Frankfurt or Amsterdam"

Oh well, it's still great to get exposure in a major US publication.
     
     
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plant the seed...then another article in the NY times:> with the 1 billion
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YYC is claiming "fastest growing airport in canada".........


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Airport poised to be No. 3 in nation
Calgary passenger numbers expected to surpass Montreal
Dina O'Meara, Calgary Herald
Published: Wednesday, December 19, 2007

Calgary's airport is expected to become Canada's third-busiest airport, overtaking Montreal within a year, says an industry analyst.

The nation's fastest-growing airport will get even busier on Friday, as the Christmas rush hits a fever pitch and more than 40,000 people are expected to travel through Calgary International Airport.

That's about 12,000 more people than the daily average, a number that has risen 10 per cent a year for the past five years to lead the nation in growth.
Eight-year-old Kyle Christopher waits for his bag during the busiest week of the year at Calgary International Airport -- 40,000 passengers are expected Friday.

"No one has forecast this kind of growth," independent aviation analyst Rick Erickson said. "Aviation has done well in Canada, but Calgary has done much, much better than the national average."

The number of flights at Calgary International has soared 43 per cent since 2002, the largest increase in Canada.

That's not surprising considering the city is at the hub of the oil industry -- the country's economic engine -- and boasts the second-largest number of Fortune 500 company headquarters in Canada.

While Toronto and Vancouver are indisputably the first- and second-busiest airports in the country, Erickson, of RP Erickson & Associates, anticipates Calgary will soon place third as its white-collar workers take to the air for business and pleasure travel.

Almost as many people fly into and out of Calgary's international airport as from Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport in Montreal, a city three-times larger, Erickson noted.

"And I'm fairly certain Calgary will overtake Montreal within a year because of the propensity of Calgarians for international travel," he said.

About 12.3 million people will travel to and from Calgary in 2007, up one million passengers from last year, and just a few hundred thousand behind Montreal, according to estimates by the Calgary Airport Authority.

The not-for-profit organization, which ranks as one of the country's most successful airport authorities, is in the midst of a 10-year, $1.2-billion expansion and maintenance program.

"It has been a hectic year," said Julien DeSchutter, marketing vice-president with the airport authority.

Calgarians can fly to 102 destinations worldwide, plus several new ones announced in the past two years.

Since 2006, British Airways started direct flights to London, England, and Frontier launched services to Denver. This year, German-based Lufthansa said it was returning to Calgary after a 20-year hiatus with daily non-stop flights to Frankfurt that started in April.

Mexicana Airlines recently announced it would be flying four times a week, and local airlines Air Canada and WestJet have increased the number of flights out of Calgary.

Service from Asia was inaugurated this year with a summer charter by Korean Air Ltd. from Seoul, South Korea. While the charters cater only to Koreans, aviation experts believe the carrier could be testing the Calgary market, as it already offers regular flights from Vancouver and Toronto.

International visitors coming to Alberta bring in about one-third of the $5 billion in tourism collected, according to Travel Alberta, and they play a large role in building long-haul markets.

"Continued growth is a reflection of the continued business and tourism travel to the region, and our robust economy and record load factors reported by airlines in 2007," said Bryce Paton, director of communications and emergency planning for the airport authority.

Seemingly non-stop construction at the airport has added a new wing, new gates, and new parking stalls to accommodate the surge in air travel. A $91-million investment was made this year in roadway and parking improvements, baggage system improvements, pavement and facility restoration, land servicing, upgrading vehicles, systems and equipment.

The authority also invested $10 million in improvements to Springbank Airport, a reliever airport run by the airport in the Municipal District of Rocky View.

For 2008, the airport authority has approved an $180-million infrastructure budget for continued expansions and upgrades.

The authority's long-term 10-year, $1.2-billion anticipated development projects include refurbishing and expanding the international facilities terminal.

The airport authority does more than build runways and direct traffic, it also leases nearly 180 hectares of industrial land, is developing a trade park, and is set to open a 24-hole golf course in 2008.

While it might sound like an odd proposition for an airport authority, a golf course makes perfect sense when taking into account its location -- at the end of a new 4,200-metre parallel runway set to open in the fall of 2015.

It will bring additional revenues in by utilizing land where buildings can't be built, Erickson noted.
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2007, 5:18 PM
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How they ran there stats they probably are...good on them for marketing. YEG should and hopefully will be more agressive.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2007, 5:37 PM
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2007, 6:08 PM
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They could use passenger numbers as growth as well, instead of percentage. Like I said YEG just has to market a little harder to get noticed...
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2007, 6:47 PM
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Received this explanation from EAA regarding YEG and FRA:

Greetings you are correct that other cities than Edmonton received Frankfurt services, including Ottawa with a smaller passenger base. Very frustrating, but explained simply. Emirates Air has commenced service from Toronto into Dubai, tapping into a passenger base who previously used Frankfurt as a connection. Air Canada and partner Lufthansa are endeavoring to keep those passengers by giving them the Frankfurt non-stop. Emirates is looking at Western Canada for it's next Canadian destination, so the same strategy was employed the added capacity to Frankfurt out of Calgary.

As far as Zoom it couldn't compete with our strong loads via Air Canada's London-Heathrow service.
     
     
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