Jameson House | 116m | 37fl | Completed

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by delboy

i never noticed the two heritage buildings before the redo....i can remember the jolly taxpayer pub...but not these two.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobkh/294902135/

there is a pic from b4

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobkh/294902135/

there is a pic from b4

The Jolly Taxpayer building was demolished, alors?
In the picture, it looked the least attractive of the group of heritage buildings.
The two remaining are quite classy-looking, à mon avis. // Correcte ou pas?

[officedweller]

The red coloured building used to house the Pacific Mineral Museum.
It was significantly structurally reinforced by VIA Architecture and Fast & Epp engineers before Jameson was built.
I guess the museum went bust(?)

That was the building preserved in its entirety - see steel framework holding it up over the excavation:

Pic by me from Dec 17, 2008:

Originally Posted by officedweller

Was at an office that overlooks the site this morning - pics by me:

The VIA website on the previous reno is dead except for text:

PACIFIC MINERAL MUSEUM
VANCOUVER, CANADA

The Pacific Mineral Museum is a privately funded museum located in the renovated Ceperley Rounsfell Building in Vancouver. The ground floor of the building was reconfigured to accommodate a gift shop, an introductory gallery, and support functions. Concrete shear walls were introduced to provide a stable base for the new second floor. The original vault door was uncovered behind a wall during construction and reused in the new museum vault exhibit on the second floor. The building was fully upgraded with the addition of two mezzanines to highlight the heritage detail of the original ceiling.

http://www.via-architecture.com/expertise/f5_4.html

The Fast & Epp one shows pics before Jameson was built. Don't know if it still looks like that inside.

This building, originally constructed in the early 1900's, required major renovations and seismic upgrading to accommodate the new museum tenant. Critical to the successful interior design of the second floor display area was an unobtrusive incorporation of lateral seismic bracing. Three-hinged steel frames constructed with welded steel plates were sensitively shaped to avoid conflict with the existing architectural ceiling scrolls.

http://www.fastepp.com/index.php/en/...mineral-museum


http://www.fastepp.com/index.php/en/...mineral-museum

[entheosfog]

Heritage buildings retained:

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by entheosfog

Heritage buildings retained:


...

not quite.
Only the building on the right (I believe used to house the BC mineral museum) was preserved mostly intact. I remember seeing it had a steel box frame built around it so the entire building could be suspended above the construction site for the Jameson condos.

The building on the left only had its facade kept. The rest of the building was demolished so the Jameson could be built and the old facade was re-attached to the new Jameson condos building.

[entheosfog]

Originally Posted by jsbertram

not quite.
Only the building on the right (I believe used to house the BC mineral museum) was preserved mostly intact. I remember seeing it had a steel box frame built around it so the entire building could be suspended above the construction site for the Jameson condos.

The building on the left only had its facade kept. The rest of the building was demolished so the Jameson could be built and the old facade was re-attached to the new Jameson condos building.

sorry, I meant to say facades retained. I took pics of this development shortly after it started so I'm aware at what happened with these buildings.

[Locked In]

Walked by Jameson today - noticed a 'Leased' sign on the left heritage building (840 W Hastings).

My photo, today:

[sacrifice333]

LEASED sign up on the left (East) facade.



Also Jameson materials indicate only 8 residential units remain.

[vanman]

A quick shot from the CC:

[trofirhen]

I applaud all the photographers and other posters on this.
This address, this strip of Hastings, and adjact streets, are giving the city a more "upmarket" or "corporate" look and feel, if you will.

Be nice to see how it looks and feels when it's fully "up and running."

[christpunchers]

I really don't like how the windows are partitioned and how in some of the rooms of the JH you only get about half a window and a lot of drywall rather than floor-to-ceiling windows. Anyone know what's up with that? Such a high end sought after building but not going forward with the modern look of larger unobstructed views.

[osirisboy]

^^ just because its high end doesnt mean it needs to be floor to ceiling windows. I think there is something like 6 units left so it hasn't seem to be a problem

[christpunchers]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

^^ just because its high end doesnt mean it needs to be floor to ceiling windows. I think there is something like 6 units left so it hasn't seem to be a problem

Having 6 units left is not an indication that there are some awkward, if not illogical, designs.

I didn't say that ceiling to floor windows are required for high ends.

I'm just saying that in bed rooms and even living rooms, rather than allowing normal height windows, they instead have a wall with proportionally small windows.

For example look at the left side of this photo (from 6717000.com):



Why would they have a tiny window for this bedroom (from ecorealtyinc.ca):



Perhaps it's just a personal preference but knowing how dark and rainy Vancouver is for the larger part of the year, it would be beneficial to have designs that bring in more natural lightning.

[SpongeG]

looks very new york and much easier for interior designers to work with

[red-paladin]

I believe that the curved walls being largely concrete instead of glass is because they are load bearing walls

[osirisboy]

My point was that if the designs were really that awkward they wouldnt have sold has many as they did. And I don't think they are proportionally small for those walls. I agree I also prefer huge windows. I'm one of those ppl that never closes blinds etc. But I know ppl who are the opposite and like smaller windows especially in bedrooms. To each their own.

I really like how the floor is inline with the balcony floor and there's no transition you have to step over. I wish they built more balconies this way. What's the point of having to climb over half a foot to get in and out of a balcony

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

My point was that if the designs were really that awkward they wouldnt have sold has many as they did. And I don't think they are proportionally small for those walls. I agree I also prefer huge windows. I'm one of those ppl that never closes blinds etc. But I know ppl who are the opposite and like smaller windows especially in bedrooms. To each their own.

I really like how the floor is inline with the balcony floor and there's no transition you have to step over. I wish they built more balconies this way. What's the point of having to climb over half a foot to get in and out of a balcony

Perhaps the view is mean to emphasize the harbour and mountains, not the rest of downtown?

I also like the flush transition between the room and balcony, I just hope it works properly when the wind and rain is howling from the North West right into the balcony - that it keeps the water outside where it belongs.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by christpunchers

Why would they have a tiny window for this bedroom (from ecorealtyinc.ca):



Perhaps it's just a personal preference but knowing how dark and rainy Vancouver is for the larger part of the year, it would be beneficial to have designs that bring in more natural lightning.

I think it's pretty well acknowledged that the small windows face across the alley and adjacent site to the east where future developments will be built - so the windows are small to protect the occupants' privacy from people looking in.

i.e. the Credit Suisse office tower will be going up to the south across the alley (i.e. 50 ft from those windows) - see gray shadow in render below:

Originally Posted by mhy

Renders from the iredale website:

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[Built Form]

Here is an excerpt from a interesting article in today's Business In Vancouver which sheds light on a few things:

Jameson House Feud Nears Resolution
By Glen Korstrom

Two Vancouver developers are poised to reach a settlement after being locked in a court battle stemming from the troubled Jameson House project at West 838 Hastings Street.
Argo Ventures Inc. is seeking up to $8 million in damages from Bosa Properties Inc. for what it claims is negligent misrepresentation and conspiracy.
The Jameson House saga started in November 2008, when global economic turmoil pushed Jameson Developments Corp., which owned the mixed-use development site, into court protection under the Companies’ Creditors Arrangement Act (CCAA).
Bosa said that providing discounts was necessary to ensure that all the building’s pre-sale buyers were committed to closing their purchases
Bosa took over the development and completed the project in June.
Argo, which pumped $8 million in financing into Jameson Developments, agreed to terms under the CCAA whereby it would receive proceeds from the project if revenue exceeded $179 million. Argo and Bosa would then split all excess revenue up to $195 million. At that point, Argo would have recouped its $8 million.
The project’s eight floors of strata office space remain vacant largely because of a dispute about how much the floors are worth.
Argo CEO Jason Hong is upset that Bosa CEO Colin Bosa attempted to give pre-sale buyers substantial discounts when, according to Hong, no discounts were needed.
Hong told Business in Vancouver that the discounts would have reduced the project’s revenue to below $179 million and consumed his entire investment.
“They gave $24.5 million of discounts on pre-sales and wiped out our claim,” Hong said. “We have an issue with that. They shouldn’t do wanton discounts.”
But Bosa counters that the discounts were needed to keep buyers happy and to secure an agreement whereby they anted up larger deposits, averaging about 25% of the sale price.... a resolution to their dispute will likely be reached this week.
Details of the settlement have yet to be released. • [email protected]

[Architroll]

The architect wants to cantilever, but the structural engineer wants to support it with a column. in any case, I do not believe the concrete panels of the exterior wall serve any lateral structural purpose. It is merely, an aesthetic material choice. More likely, cantilevers are achieved through post-tensioned cables in the slab. But I could be wrong. Moreover, the cantilever may be more than just an architectural statement. It is cantilevering over a heritige building. It's possible to have air rights over an existing building, but you can't rip columns into it.